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Thursday, September 28, 2023 · sitting No. 226
Conservatives press carbon tax motion as Bloc support draws fire
The House spent most of the sitting on a Conservative opposition motion that accused the Bloc Québécois of supporting a second national carbon tax through the clean fuel standard and of calling for sharper increases in the existing levy. Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre moved the motion and defended it during the supply day debate, citing Parliamentary Budget Officer estimates of a 17-cent-per-litre rise in Quebec gasoline prices.
Question period featured repeated exchanges on the same topic, with Poilievre challenging Atlantic Liberal MPs to vote against further increases and Liberal ministers defending the pricing regime as essential to emissions reductions. Separate exchanges addressed the fallout from the former speaker's recognition of a former Nazi soldier, with Bloc Québécois Leader Yves-François Blanchet and Poilievre pressing the government on delayed diplomatic responses.
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- deflectedForeign AffairsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts focus to the Speaker's resignation without addressing the PM's five-day delay or motives.
every member of Parliament recognized that it was the Speaker's responsibility.
- deflectedCarbon PricingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Anita Anand (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to urging support for Bill C-56 instead of addressing carbon tax impacts on food prices.
I would like to put the question to the opposition as to whether those members will actually support Bill C-56
- misdirectedCarbon PricingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Randy Boissonnault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks Conservatives on unrelated issues like child care and forest fires rather than carbon tax or Atlantic MPs.
What do the Conservatives want to do? They want to cancel the child care benefit; they want to pull the CCB.
- misdirectedCarbon PricingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Randy Boissonnault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks Conservative ideology on renewables instead of responding to the carbon tax motion or betrayal claim.
what is reckless is the Conservative ideology that somehow pausing renewable projects is a good strategy.
- deflectedCarbon PricingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Pascale St-Onge (Liberal). loaded question.The answer criticizes Conservatives on climate plans without addressing the Bloc leader, Quebec carbon tax, or PM's actions.
what Quebeckers know is that, in 2023, it makes no sense for a party that hopes to govern this country to have absolutely no plan for combatting climate change.
- partly answeredForeign AffairsMr. Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges calls and apologies but does not detail actions to address consequences for allies or reputation.
- answeredForeign AffairsMr. Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly addresses diplomatic calls, apologies, and ongoing work with allies on the incident.
Calls and apologies were made through diplomatic channels right from the start.
- deflectedNatural ResourcesMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Pascale St-Onge (Liberal). substantive question.The answer highlights emission reductions but avoids addressing the IEA recommendations on new fossil fuel projects or net-zero timeline.
That is why we have reduced our greenhouse gas emissions by more than 62 megatonnes since 2019.
- partly answeredPublic Services and ProcurementMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Anita Anand (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the problem and states intent to work on it but provides no concrete plan.
I will work very hard to make sure that public servants can access their benefits.
- deflectedForeign AffairsMichael Chong (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). substantive question.The response explains the circumstances but avoids directly addressing why the apology was not on behalf of the government or Canada.
the Prime Minister issued an apology on behalf of all of us because those of us who were present here in this chamber on Friday all stood.
- deflectedForeign AffairsMichael Chong (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). substantive question.The answer restates events and diplomatic actions without addressing the specific question about the scope of the apology.
as soon as this was discovered, the Prime Minister spoke about how deeply hurtful this was to all parliamentarians and indeed to all Canadians
- deflectedForeign AffairsMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The response shifts focus to the Speaker's actions and avoids addressing the Prime Minister's delay or personal responsibility.
it was the Speaker of the House who decided to invite this individual, without warning any members, the government or the Ukrainian delegation
- misdirectedCarbon PricingMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Ms. Rachel Bendayan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the carbon tax question entirely and pivots to unrelated economic announcements in Quebec.
We announced today that a new company, Northvolt, is going to set up shop in Saint‑Boniface, Quebec.
- misdirectedHousingMr. Jasraj Singh Hallan (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). substantive question.The response attacks the questioner's voting record instead of addressing the budget balancing or interest rate question.
I find the hon. member's newfound interest in building more homes for Canadians fascinating when he has a history of voting against measures that would build more homes for Canadians.
- deflectedHousingMr. Jasraj Singh Hallan (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). substantive question.The answer begins by dismissing the questioner and cuts off without engaging the budget or housing cost issues.
in typical Conservative fashion, the member is ignoring the homes that we have built over the last number of years for low-income people.
- deflectedNatural ResourcesMs. Kristina Michaud (Bloc) asked Mr. Marc Serré (Liberal). loaded question.The response highlights ocean protection achievements and avoids addressing the oil exploration expansion or UN criticism.
under the Conservatives, only 1% of our oceans were protected. Fortunately, we have now protected more than 14%.
- deflectedNatural ResourcesMs. Monique Pauzé (Bloc) asked Mr. Adam van Koeverden (Liberal). loaded question.The answer discusses emissions caps but does not address backing down on oil expansion in Newfoundland.
Setting an emissions cap for the oil and gas sector is one of the key measures in our plan to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
- partly answeredNatural ResourcesMs. Monique Pauzé (Bloc) asked Mr. Marc Serré (Liberal). loaded question.The response clarifies that no projects are in marine refuges but does not commit to canceling authorizations.
I would like to point out that no oil production projects have been proposed in a marine refuge and that, if possible, such projects will not be approved.
- misdirectedCarbon PricingMr. Stephen Ellis (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.The answer focuses on criticizing the member's actions rather than addressing the carbon tax increase.
I have to point out that it is unacceptable that the member repeats talking points from a recent $45,000 junket he joined, where he enjoyed porterhouse steaks and chateaubriand, and where they ordered 10 bottles of $600 wine and champagne.
- misdirectedCarbon PricingMr. Stephen Ellis (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks Conservative positions on other programs instead of addressing the carbon tax.
They want to take dental benefits away from children.
- deflectedCarbon PricingMr. John Barlow (Conservative) asked Mr. Adam van Koeverden (Liberal). loaded question.The answer criticizes Conservatives' credibility on climate instead of addressing food bank reliance due to the carbon tax.
it is disgraceful how the Conservatives are using people's financial struggles and pain to reinforce inaction on the environment and climate change.
- answeredHousingMs. Lindsay Mathyssen (NDP) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly states that investments in social housing began in 2015 under the national housing strategy.
- deflectedPensionsMr. Blake Desjarlais (NDP) asked Randy Boissonnault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer highlights CPP performance versus AIMCo but does not address defending pensions from Conservative plans.
Just on performance alone, a few years back, CPP was 20% and AIMCo was 0.5%.
- deflectedFinanceMr. Adam Chambers (Conservative) asked Ms. Rachel Bendayan (Liberal). substantive question.The answer emphasizes credit rating and investments in companies instead of addressing deficit reduction.
all of the rating agencies have reconfirmed our AAA credit rating.
- deflectedFinanceMr. Adam Chambers (Conservative) asked Ms. Rachel Bendayan (Liberal). substantive question.The answer ignores the debt servicing cost question entirely and pivots to attacking Conservatives.
I spoke with a mother in my riding who is wondering how much a Conservative government would cost her.
- misdirectedHousingMr. Eric Melillo (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner's housing plan instead of addressing spending control or mortgage costs.
if the hon. member is concerned about making sure Canadians have a roof over their heads, I find it curious that he seems to be supporting a plan that has been described as being so unaware of the scale or urgency of the housing crisis
- deflectedHousingMr. Eric Melillo (Conservative) asked Mr. Marc Serré (Liberal). substantive question.The answer shifts to an unrelated energy program example and attacks the opposition leader rather than addressing spending or housing affordability.
My constituents Daniel and Hélène Gingras, from my riding of Nickel Belt in northern Ontario, took advantage of the greener homes program
- partly answeredHousingMr. Denis Trudel (Bloc) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges ongoing discussions with Quebec on housing funds but provides no timeline or commitment.
we are in discussions with Quebec to reach a new agreement, to support their efforts to build housing throughout the province.
- deflectedHousingMr. Denis Trudel (Bloc) asked Soraya Martinez Ferrada (Liberal). substantive question.The answer promises future announcements without addressing the delay or releasing the $900 million.
We will be happy to make further announcements—very soon, I hope—because many projects are already under way
- deflectedHousingMrs. Dominique Vien (Conservative) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer lists existing programs but ignores the question on ending inflationary spending and the carbon tax impact.
we have had a national housing strategy for years and are investing billions of dollars in it.
- misdirectedCarbon PricingMr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks Conservative policy and corrects a premise about Quebec's carbon pricing instead of addressing tax increases.
Quebec is not subject to the price on pollution for the simple reason that it has had its own carbon exchange for 10 years.
- misdirectedCarbon PricingMr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks Conservative 'common sense' broadly rather than addressing carbon tax effects on farmers or costs.
Conservative common sense is like jam: the less there is, the more it is spread around.
- deflectedHealthMr. Garnett Genuis (Conservative) asked Ya'ara Saks (Liberal). substantive question.The answer criticizes the opposition as behind the times instead of addressing the specific vote or compensation question.
it seems that, as usual, the opposition is behind the times and is offering nothing when we address this critical issue.
- deflectedHealthMr. Frank Caputo (Conservative) asked Ya'ara Saks (Liberal). loaded question.The response promotes harm reduction and criticizes the asker rather than addressing when the policy will change to protect children.
I suggest that the member work with us rather than restigmatizing people and putting them in the shadows instead of getting them the help they need.
- misdirectedJusticeMr. Rick Perkins (Conservative) asked Ms. Jennifer O'Connell (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks the asker for partisan motives instead of explaining justice in the specific case.
members opposite should not use heinous crimes for partisan gain
- partly answeredOil and Gas IndustryMr. Mike Morrice (Green) asked Mr. Adam van Koeverden (Liberal). substantive question.The answer explains the one-time nature of the bank tax but pivots to subsidies and clean economy without committing to the oil tax proposal.
the Canada recovery dividend was a pandemic program, and it was a one-time tax program for banks and life insurance.
- deflectedOil and Gas IndustryMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Adam van Koeverden (Liberal). substantive question.The answer shifts to carbon pricing and past Conservative policies instead of addressing suing oil companies for disinformation.
on a day when we are confronted with climate change denial and actions to bring us back to a Harper era
- answeredBusiness of the HouseAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly lists the upcoming House business schedule as requested.
Tomorrow, we will begin the second reading debate on Bill C‑50, the Canadian Sustainable Jobs Act .