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Wednesday, November 8, 2017 · sitting No. 232
Commons advances budget bill amid paradise papers clashes
The House spent the largest share of the sitting on second reading of Bill C-63, the budget implementation act. Liberal MP Julie Dzerowicz said the bill delivers on middle-class priorities and responsible investments validated by the IMF. Conservative MP Guy Lauzon said the update projects another $100 billion in debt and rising interest costs that households cannot afford.
Question period was dominated by exchanges on taxation. Conservative MP Lisa Raitt pressed National Revenue Minister Diane Lebouthillier on whether Liberal fundraiser Stephen Bronfman faces investigation after the paradise papers. The minister said the government has invested nearly $1 billion to combat evasion and that no one is above the law.
Other exchanges covered the Phoenix pay system and carbon pricing, with ministers defending government actions and opposition members citing delays and broken promises on transparency.
Decided that day
- Second reading of Bill C-63 passed
- M-132 passed
- M-126 passed
- C-346 defeated at second reading
- C-325 defeated at second reading
From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard
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Who held the floor · 2017-11-08
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Other moments
The Environment
NDP MP Robert Aubin asked Environment Minister Catherine McKenna how Canada would meet Paris targets after the UN called for faster action; McKenna cited the pan-Canadian framework and upcoming work in Bonn.
Read the exchangeEthics
Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre asked whether the revenue minister would direct CRA to ignore the Prime Minister's comments on Stephen Bronfman; Minister Diane Lebouthillier said historic investments show the government's commitment and no one is above the law.
Read the exchangePublic Services and Procurement
NDP MP Sheri Benson said Miramichi pay-centre workers face a toxic environment of understaffing and lack of training while fixing Phoenix; Public Services Minister Carla Qualtrough said the well-being of those workers is paramount.
Read the exchangeVeterans Affairs
Conservative MP Phil McColeman said the number of homeless veterans has risen 62 per cent since the Liberals took office; Veterans Affairs Minister Marc Miller said the government remains committed to a pension-for-life option.
Read the exchangeRail Transportation
Green Party MP Elizabeth May asked Transport Minister Marc Garneau whether Canada remains committed to a national VIA Rail service; Garneau said the government is committed and he encourages Canadians to try the train.
Read the exchangeQuestion Period, exchange by exchange
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- deflectedTaxationLisa Raitt (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.Answer lists general stats on tax enforcement instead of confirming Bronfman's status.
There have been 627 cases transferred to criminal investigation, 268 warrants, and 78 convictions.
- deflectedTaxationLisa Raitt (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.Answer repeats investment claims and states no one is above the law without addressing interference or pardon.
As Minister of National Revenue, I can assure everyone listening that no one is above the law.
- deflectedTaxationLisa Raitt (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.Answer refuses to comment on specifics and contrasts with prior government instead of confirming investigation status.
The opposition knows very well that I cannot comment on specific cases as Minister of National Revenue.
- misdirectedTaxationMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.Answer shifts entirely to unrelated benefits like child benefit and EI reforms.
We created the Canada child benefit for Canadian families who need support.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.Answer repeats enforcement statistics and investments without addressing political interference claim.
We invested nearly $1 billion and we are getting a return on that investment.
- partly answeredTaxationMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.Answer addresses general CRA tools and that no one is above the law but does not speak to committee investigation support.
The Canada Revenue Agency now has the tools to review 100% of the tax returns filed by all large multinational corporations each year.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.Answer notes general commitment and defers committee decisions without indicating Liberal vote intention.
As for the committees, they are free to make their own choices, and I will respect their decision.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.Answer lists past investments and convictions without addressing Liberal members' quotes or tax haven tolerance.
Over the last two years, we have made historic investments, something that had not been done for the past 10 years.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer restates general commitments to fighting tax evasion without addressing whether the government will change laws on tax avoidance.
our government is fully committed to fighting tax evasion and aggressive tax avoidance.
- misdirectedTaxationMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer avoids the question about the Prime Minister commenting on a case and instead lists unrelated government achievements while attacking the opposition.
- answeredTaxationMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly states that the minister cannot comment on specific cases due to confidentiality requirements.
as the member opposite well knows, I cannot comment on any specific cases, nor will I be able to at any point in the future.
- deflectedTaxationCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer discusses general anti-evasion efforts and international leadership instead of addressing the Prime Minister's comments on the Bronfman case.
I can assure the House that I am very proud of the leadership role the CRA has taken on the international stage.
- deflectedTaxationCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer reiterates commitments to combatting tax evasion and states no one is above the law without addressing the Prime Minister's statements or legal implications.
No one is above the law. In Canada, the laws apply to everyone, no matter who they are.
- misdirectedTaxationMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the opposition's hypocrisy on tax havens rather than addressing the Prime Minister's interference in the investigation.
Even a former Conservative revenue minister publicly stated that investigating tax havens was not a priority for his government.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer lists statistics on investments and investigations without addressing impartiality concerns or the Prime Minister's actions.
we made investments of nearly $1 billion in our first two budgets.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Catherine McKenna (Liberal). substantive question.The answer outlines the government's climate plan but does not specify additional actions beyond existing measures to meet targets.
Under this plan, we will put a price on carbon, eliminate coal, and make historic investments in clean infrastructure and public transportation.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked Catherine McKenna (Liberal). substantive question.The answer promotes general climate commitment and attacks the opposition instead of committing to specific action on promises.
I wish the party opposite would understand how important it is to listen and take action against climate change.
- deflectedEthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer lists CRA investments and penalties without addressing the request for assurance on ignoring the Prime Minister.
the historic investments of nearly $1 billion we have made in the Canada Revenue Agency show how dedicated we are to fighting tax evasion and tax avoidance.
- deflectedEthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer highlights convictions and information exchange without addressing political interference or the specific assurance requested.
As I said, no one is above the law.
- deflectedTaxationPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to unrelated tax benefits and credits instead of addressing the diabetes tax credit or fundraisers.
We are allowing low-income workers to keep more of their hard-earned money from every paycheque by further enhancing the working income tax benefit by an additional $500 million per year, starting in 2019.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Tom Kmiec (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses general commitments to tax credits without explaining why information on diabetes credits is not released.
We have simplified the forms for tax credits.
- answeredPublic Services and ProcurementMs. Sheri Benson (NDP) asked Carla Qualtrough (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly states actions taken to support the workers and address their well-being.
We are doing everything to support them.
- answeredPublic Services and ProcurementMs. Karine Trudel (NDP) asked Carla Qualtrough (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly affirms the importance of worker well-being and ongoing efforts to solve Phoenix issues.
The well-being of those workers is of paramount importance to this government.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer lists government benefits and past reforms instead of addressing the diabetes tax credit or Liberal fundraiser allegations.
We abolished the Harper employment insurance reform.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Pat Kelly (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The minister avoids the specific issues of wait times, freezes, and form changes by repeating that criteria have not changed and pivoting to unrelated benefits.
I repeat, the eligibility criteria for the tax credit have not changed.
- deflectedTaxationKevin Sorenson (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer corrects the premise and shifts to general commitments and personal background instead of addressing clawbacks or eligibility decisions.
the Conservatives need to stop saying things that are just not accurate.
- partly answeredTaxationMs. Marilyn Gladu (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The response claims ongoing work with partners but does not directly commit to meeting Diabetes Canada as asked.
we are working with our partners on an ongoing basis.
- answeredHuman RightsMs. Anne Minh-Thu Quach (NDP) asked Mr. Matt DeCourcey (Liberal). substantive question.The answer confirms that human rights were discussed during the visit as requested.
Our Prime Minister and our Minister of Foreign Affairs are currently in Vietnam and had the opportunity to talk about human rights in the country.
- answeredFisheries and OceansMr. Fin Donnelly (NDP) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The minister directly answers yes and explains ongoing meetings with the requested parties.
- deflectedEthicsMr. John Brassard (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer restates disclosure compliance then pivots to job creation numbers instead of addressing the numbered companies.
I am pleased to say that, as all members of this House do, I have disclosed all of my assets to the Ethics Commissioner and will continue to do so.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Bernard Généreux (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The response notes work with the commissioner but immediately shifts to economic talking points without addressing the hidden assets.
I am working with the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner, and I will continue to work with her.
- deflectedEthicsErin O'Toole (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to CRA funding for tax evasion instead of addressing the specific offshore company questions.
Over the past two years, historic amounts have been allocated to the Canada Revenue Agency to combat tax evasion and aggressive tax avoidance because that was a priority for Canadians.
- deflectedVeterans AffairsMr. Phil McColeman (Conservative) asked Mr. Marc Miller (Liberal). loaded question.The answer restates general commitments without addressing the specific claims about wait times, homelessness, or funding to Asia.
We remain committed to a pension for life option, and will announce further details later this year.
- misdirectedTaxationMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked Mr. Sean Casey (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses cultural investments instead of responding to the tax fairness question posed to the Minister of Finance.
We have made massive investments in arts and culture, over $2.2 billion to be precise.
- partly answeredForeign AffairsEd Fast (Conservative) asked Catherine McKenna (Liberal). loaded question.The answer accepts responsibility for the tweet and expresses disgust at the regime but does not explicitly apologize for legitimizing Assad.
A mistake was made. I take full responsibility as minister.
- answeredRail TransportationMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Marc Garneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly affirms the government's commitment to national passenger rail service.
our government is committed to rail passenger service for Canadians.