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Tuesday, November 7, 2017 · sitting No. 231
Commons debates budget bill amid opposition questions on tax havens
The House spent the largest share of its sitting debating Bill C-63 at second reading under government orders. Liberal MP Kamal Khera said the bill implements measures from budget 2017 to help families and fight tax evasion. Conservative MP Richard Cannings said the bill lowers taxes only for upper-middle-income earners and does nothing for those earning $40,000 or less.
In question period Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer asked how long the Prime Minister had known that his chief fundraiser sheltered money in tax havens. National Revenue Minister Diane Lebouthillier said the government has invested nearly $1 billion in the Canada Revenue Agency and is conducting more than 990 audits related to offshore structures.
Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux moved that all questions on the order paper stand, a motion adopted by the House. Points of order were raised on the application of Standing Order 69.1 to Bill C-63.
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Points of Order
New Democrat MP Peter Julian argued that Bill C-63 meets the definition of an omnibus bill under the new Standing Order 69.1 and should be divided for voting.
Read the exchangeVeterans Affairs
Liberal MP Deborah Schulte recognized the Muslims for Remembrance Day campaign organized by the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jama'at Canada for raising funds for veterans.
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Conservative MP Alice Wong asked why only $10 million was allocated to fight the opioid crisis while $500 million goes to the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank.
Read the exchangeSoftwood Lumber
New Democrat MP Karine Trudel said U.S. duties of up to 21 per cent will jeopardize 11,000 jobs in Saguenay—Lac-Saint-Jean.
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New Democrat MP Rachel Blaney said the government is unwilling to enshrine the right to housing in law despite speaking about it.
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- deflectedEthicsAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer lists general enforcement statistics without addressing the timeline of the Prime Minister's knowledge.
our government is fully committed to fighting tax evasion and aggressive tax avoidance.
- deflectedEthicsAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer repeats investment figures and audit counts while ignoring the specific question about when the Prime Minister learned of the holdings.
That is why the agency, as of September 30, 2017, was conducting more than 990 audits and 42 criminal investigations related to offshore financial structures.
- misdirectedEthicsAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the Conservatives' record instead of responding to the question about rules for insiders versus others.
I find the hypocrisy of my colleagues across the way to be quite something.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer emphasizes international collaboration and audit numbers without addressing the claim about turning a blind eye to the scandal.
That is why, as of September 30, 2017, the Canada Revenue Agency had more than 990 audits and 42 criminal investigations under way focusing on offshore financial structures.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer insults the questioner and restates budget investments rather than disclosing when the Prime Minister learned of the tax havens.
my colleague opposite is the one who is talking nonsense.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer defends the CRA with statistics and a fishing metaphor while avoiding confirmation of an investigation into Bronfman.
I can assure my colleague opposite that I have a lot more experience in fishing than he does.
- partly answeredEthicsMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer states that tax havens are a mandate priority and lists actions taken, partially addressing the call to fight them.
tax havens are one of the priorities in my mandate letter and a priority for this government.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer reiterates international work and conviction numbers without addressing renegotiation of tax agreements.
We are an important international partner in the BEPS project.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer restates government actions on tax evasion without addressing whether laws will be changed or efforts blocked.
Our government took office two years ago and in that time we have invested $1 billion.
- deflectedEthicsLisa Raitt (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer repeats talking points on investments and Conservative inaction instead of addressing why friends are let off while citizens face difficulty.
We are working on this file, unlike the Conservatives who, for 10 years and even according to one of their own former revenue ministers, did nothing.
- deflectedEthicsLisa Raitt (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the opposition's hypocrisy and cuts off without addressing the specific tax bill comparison or friends' treatment.
The hypocrisy of the members across the aisle is stunning.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer lists unrelated government achievements and attacks the opposition instead of addressing tax fairness for friends versus others.
I would remind the Conservative party that we voted in favour of the Canada child benefit to lift children out of poverty.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer shifts to international OECD standards and timelines without addressing hypocrisy or specific friends' tax avoidance.
We fully adopted this standard, and starting July 1, 2017, Canadian financial institutions began taking steps to identify accounts held by non-residents and report these accounts to the Canada Revenue Agency.
- deflectedEthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer highlights past Conservative inaction and government actions but ignores the question about firing Paul Martin.
The OECD, of which Canada is a member, brought nations together to collaborate on the development of a new global standard for the automatic exchange of information.
- misdirectedEthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to consultations and tax changes for the middle class without addressing the specific advisors or hypocrisy raised.
This is the government that increased taxes on the wealthiest 1% of Canadians by lowering taxes on middle-class Canadians.
- partly answeredHuman RightsMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). substantive question.The answer affirms seriousness and engagement but does not confirm the Prime Minister's personal apology in the House or reparations.
We respect the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
- deflectedHuman RightsMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). substantive question.The answer describes a consultation process instead of committing to the requested apology and redress.
the Prime Minister , some months ago, appointed the hon. member for Edmonton Centre to consult broadly across the country with the community to make sure that all elements of this issue were properly heard and known and taken into account
- deflectedTaxationMr. Alexander Nuttall (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer restates government tax policy on middle class and small business without addressing the specific accusations about targeting vulnerable groups or friends.
This government is a government that lowered taxes on middle-class Canadians by increasing taxes on the wealthiest 1% of Canadians.
- misdirectedTaxationMr. Alexander Nuttall (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer addresses disability tax credits and a national disability law rather than the question about targeting vulnerable Canadians or the named individual.
our government is firmly committed to ensuring that all Canadians receive the tax credits to which they are entitled.
- misdirectedTaxationMr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to tax credits and the working income tax benefit instead of responding to claims about tax havens or targeting people with disabilities.
our government is committed to ensuring that all Canadians get the tax credits they are entitled to.
- misdirectedTaxationMs. Marilyn Gladu (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer emphasizes the minister's background and disability access improvements rather than addressing the accusation of targeting vulnerable Canadians or wealthy friends.
I would like to remind my colleague opposite that I was a social worker for 25 years.
- partly answeredInternational TradeMs. Ruth Ellen Brosseau (NDP) asked Ms. Pam Goldsmith-Jones (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges ongoing TPP talks and supply management concerns but provides no specific details on market access allowed.
We are discussing options for a possible agreement and we are also discussing ways to improve the terms of trade for Canadian businesses.
- answeredSoftwood LumberMs. Karine Trudel (NDP) asked Andrew Leslie (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly states the government's plan to challenge the duties in court and seek a good agreement.
We will challenge this decision before the courts and we will win, as we have done on every past occasion.
- deflectedEthicsPeter Kent (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer highlights asset disclosure and economic achievements instead of addressing the question about remaining numbered companies and potential conflicts.
I am pleased to report to the House that I have disclosed and will continue to disclose all my assets to the Ethics Commissioner.
- deflectedEthicsMrs. Sylvie Boucher (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer gives general tax evasion statistics instead of addressing the minister's companies.
our government is fully committed to fighting tax evasion and aggressive tax avoidance.
- misdirectedEthicsCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer calls the question incorrect then pivots to economic achievements.
the member opposite is incorrect.
- deflectedEthicsCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer defends disclosure practices without naming assets held in the prior two years.
What we do is we disclose what we need to disclose in order to make sure we can get on with the work.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Pierre-Luc Dusseault (NDP) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer lists enforcement numbers instead of explaining the Cayman Islands agreement.
Over the past two years, we have invested more than $1 billion and our plan is bearing fruit.
- partly answeredEthicsMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer confirms future publication of the tax gap but does not give current figures.
in the summer of 2018, we will be publishing a report on the international aspect of the tax gap.
- answeredInfrastructureMichael Chong (Conservative) asked Mr. Marc Miller (Liberal). substantive question.The answer explains project approvals and payment timing for domestic infrastructure.
we are proud to have approved, as the member well knows, more than 4,000 projects since taking office, with a combined investment of more than $35 billion.
- answeredInfrastructureMr. Joël Godin (Conservative) asked Mr. Marc Miller (Liberal). substantive question.The answer repeats project totals and notes ongoing Quebec projects.
I am very proud to announce that several hundred projects are in the works in Quebec.
- partly answeredHealthAlice Wong (Conservative) asked Mr. Bill Blair (Liberal). loaded question.The answer details domestic opioid funding but does not address the Asian bank comparison.
our government has provided $10 million in urgent support to our provincial partners in British Columbia and $6 million to the Province of Alberta
- deflectedVeterans AffairsMr. Phil McColeman (Conservative) asked Mrs. Sherry Romanado (Liberal). loaded question.The answer addresses wait times with process improvements but avoids the court case and Asia spending accusations entirely.
delivering timely benefit decisions is an area where we can and we must do better.
- partly answeredHousingMs. Rachel Blaney (NDP) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). loaded question.The answer affirms the importance of housing rights and hints at news but does not address the bill or Liberal silence.
I have good news to announce in a very short time.
- misdirectedForeign AffairsMr. Garnett Genuis (Conservative) asked Mr. Matt DeCourcey (Liberal). substantive question.The answer corrects funding details and invites opposition support but does not address the specific Sri Lanka commitment or cancelled office.
I will correct the record, because the member knows full well that this government tripled funding to the new Office of Human Rights, Freedoms and Inclusion.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Xavier Barsalou-Duval (Bloc) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer highlights enforcement actions and investments but avoids the bill vote, tax haven legality, and bagmen accusation.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Gabriel Ste-Marie (Bloc) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer cites conviction numbers and penalties but does not address tax havens or the Bronfman example.
For the last fiscal year alone, the CRA's work resulted in 37 convictions with sentences totalling over 50 years in prison and millions of dollars in fines imposed by the courts.
- misdirectedPresence in GallerySteven Blaney (Conservative) asked Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer disputes the privilege claim on procedural grounds rather than engaging the tax or misleading statement issue.
I submit that the matter is a dispute as to the facts, and therefore does not meet the criteria for finding a prima facie question of privilege.