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Friday, October 25, 2013 · sitting No. 8

Commons debates budget bill as NDP attacks veterans provisions

The House spent the largest share of its sitting on government orders for the Economic Action Plan 2013 Act No. 2. Conservative MP John Carmichael said the bill would grow the economy and create jobs while delivering benefits to small business and veterans. NDP MP Chris Charlton said the measures would reduce permanent members of the Veterans Review and Appeal Board and harm those the government claims to honour.

Question period focused on conflicting accounts of the Prime Minister's Office involvement in the repayment of Senator Mike Duffy's expenses. NDP MP Nathan Cullen asked which statement by the Prime Minister was accurate after documents showed at least four staff members knew of the scheme. Conservative MP Paul Calandra said the Prime Minister had been consistent that Senator Duffy must repay any ineligible amounts.

Decided that day

  • C-7 introduced and given second reading
  • C-6 introduced and given second reading

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Who held the floor · 2013-10-25

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 52%, opposition 48% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:00Last speech 13:35Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 3 h 30 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
62Bills inch forward, answers mostly dodgeThe House spent most of its time on the Economic Action Plan and ethics but still moved two bills forward. Question period produced few direct answers and no votes were recorded.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

The Environment

NDP MP François Choquette said Environment Canada data show the government is moving backward on its 2020 greenhouse gas targets and asked when oil and gas sector reductions would be set. Environment Minister Leona Aglukkaq said new vehicle and coal plant rules have already cut emissions below what would have occurred under previous Liberal policies.

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International Trade

Conservative MP Erin O'Toole said the agreement signed the previous week would increase trade with Europe by 20 per cent and create 80,000 jobs. He criticized NDP members for placing an anti-trade MP on the trade committee.

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Transport

NDP MP François Lapointe pressed the government to commit federal funds now for phase three of the Highway 185 upgrade in Quebec. Conservative MP Jacques Gourde said Ottawa works with Quebec on transport priorities within existing programs.

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The Budget

NDP MP Mathieu Ravignat asked which public servants would lose the right to strike under budget implementation act amendments. Conservative MP Dan Albas said the changes would make the public service affordable and high-performing as taxpayers expect.

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Foreign Affairs

Conservative MP Joan Crockatt asked the foreign affairs minister to address executions and political prisoners in Iran. Minister John Baird said the situation remains abysmal and Iran continues to support terrorism and its nuclear program.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    EthicsMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer evades identifying any lie by restating prior statements and pivots to attacking the opposition on an unrelated Senate motion.However, what is also clear is that when Senator Duffy approached the Prime Minister to try to justify his inappropriate expenses, the Prime Minister told him he needed to pay back any inappropriate expenses he did not incur.
  2. deflected
    EthicsMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids naming the individuals by citing documents and shifts to defending the PM's advice while criticizing opposition obstruction.Nigel Wright, in his own filings, identified the people he brought into his confidence with respect to this issue.
  3. deflected
    EthicsMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The response sidesteps naming those involved by repeating prior claims and redirects to urging passage of Senate suspensions.What is very clear is that the opposition needs to come on board, especially the opposition Liberals, and pass the suspension in the Senate immediately.
  4. deflected
    EthicsMrs. Sadia Groguhé (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids confirming details on Perrin by referencing prior statements and pivots to the PM's instructions to Duffy.very clear is that when Senator Duffy approached the Prime Minister on this matter, the Prime Minister told him that he had to repay those expenses.
  5. deflected
    Democratic ReformMrs. Sadia Groguhé (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer reframes the question around electing senators and blames the NDP for obstruction instead of committing to the requested appointment pause.It is the NDP that has consistently obstructed us in that matter.
  6. misdirected
    EthicsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the question about Hamilton's role and instead attacks Liberals for obstructing Senate motions.why are the Liberals in the Senate obstructing the passage of this motion, which would see these three senators stripped of their pay?
  7. deflected
    EthicsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats the same non-response about Wright's filings and pivots to demanding Liberals stop obstructing Senate action.it is very clear that Nigel Wright, in his filings, has identified the individuals whom he brought into his confidence on this matter.
  8. deflected
    EthicsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer evades addressing staff knowledge or the PM's story by restating Wright's filings and attacking Liberals over Senate obstruction.This is really an issue between Senator Duffy and Nigel Wright.
  9. deflected
    EthicsMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids naming any number of people aware and pivots to unrelated talking points about repayment.the Prime Minister was very clear. On February 13 when Senator Duffy approached him to try to justify these inappropriate expenses, the Prime Minister was very clear.
  10. deflected
    EthicsMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats the same repayment narrative instead of addressing the timeline of inaction from November 2012.When he was approached by Senator Duffy, who tried to justify these inappropriate expenses, the Prime Minister said to him, "Repay those expenses".
  11. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Jamie Nicholls (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberals and NDP rather than confirming the Prime Minister's view of the email.Contrast that to the Liberals, who would have been prepared to invite back disgraced Senator Mac Harb, or the leader of the opposition, who waited 17 years to tell police about a bribe he got.
  12. deflected
    EthicsMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the specific question about communications between February and May and returns to generic standards.If members have inappropriate expenses, if they claim expenses that they did not incur, they must repay those expenses.
  13. deflected
    EthicsMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer refuses to clarify the exact number and instead points to court filings and calls for Senate action.Nigel Wright, in his court filings, identified the people who he brought into his confidence on this matter.
  14. partly answered
    EthicsMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states cooperation with authorities but provides no details on documents or interviews.we will continue to work with the authorities and provide them with any information that they require
  15. deflected
    EthicsMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer again cites Nigel Wright's filings and avoids confirming involvement of named individuals.Nigel Wright in his own court filings has identified the people that he brought into his confidence.
  16. deflected
    EthicsMr. Mike Sullivan (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer evades confirming the Prime Minister's direction and repeats the Wright-Duffy narrative.Nigel Wright in his filings identified the people that he brought into his confidence on this matter.
  17. misdirected
    EthicsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks opposition instead of addressing the ethics of the alleged threat to livelihood.I will let the NDP and the Liberals defend these three senators.
  18. deflected
    EthicsGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to Senate obstruction by Liberals and avoids the question on PMO knowledge and competence.It is clear, Mr. Speaker, that the member perhaps has his facts wrong after all of these weeks of talking about it.
  19. deflected
    EthicsGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates PM's February statement and pivots to Senate motion without addressing the call for sworn testimony.the Prime Minister has been very clear on this matter.
  20. misdirected
    EthicsGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.Answer responds with a personal challenge to repeat words outside and attacks Liberal record instead of addressing testimony request.I wonder if this member would like to come outside of the House with me right now and repeat those exact same words in front of a TV camera.
  21. partly answered
    The EnvironmentMr. Claude Gravelle (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). loaded question.Answer lists regulatory actions taken but ignores the question on immediate corrective steps or doubt about climate change.our government is committed to achieving Canada's targets, and our leadership and actions prove this.
  22. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. François Choquette (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats prior actions and attacks NDP policy without addressing oil and gas sector targets.we introduced new emission regulations for vehicles, and we are the first major country to reduce coal-fired power plants.
  23. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. François Choquette (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.Answer mentions international coalitions but does not address concrete measures for beluga protection or climate impacts.our government has taken action to address climate change.
  24. answered
    The EnvironmentMs. Ruth Ellen Brosseau (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states that DFO researchers are studying belugas and peer-reviewed advice will be published.researchers from DFO have been working with partners to study the beluga whales in the St. Lawrence.
  25. misdirected
    The BudgetMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Mr. Dan Albas (Conservative). substantive question.The answer refuses to identify affected public servants and instead attacks the opposition.Unlike the opposition, our Conservative government cares about the safety of Canadians and not lining the pockets of big union bosses.
  26. deflected
    The BudgetMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Mr. Dan Albas (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the minister's competence and instead attacks the NDP's ties to unions.The NDP has never been on the side of taxpayers because it is in the pockets of big unions.
  27. deflected
    LabourMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Mr. Dan Albas (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates budget goals without addressing the minister's failure to explain or consult.The Public Service Labour Relations Act will be amended to ensure that the public service is affordable, modern, and high-performing, as taxpayers expect.
  28. misdirected
    LabourMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked Mr. Dan Albas (Conservative). substantive question.The answer refuses to name targeted services and attacks NDP members as former union leaders.I look across the aisle, and a great many of the NDP caucus are former union leaders who continue to put those interests forward rather than the people who put them in office and who they are supposed to represent: the Canadian taxpayers.
  29. deflected
    The EconomyScott Brison (Liberal) asked Mr. Andrew Saxton (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores youth job losses and Franklin reference, pivoting to general job creation claims.Canada has the best jobs record in the entire G7, with over one million net new jobs created since July of 2009.
  30. answered
    TaxationScott Brison (Liberal) asked Mr. Andrew Saxton (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly explains the policy change to the credit union tax treatment.We are simply eliminating an outdated tax subsidy from the 1970s, put in by the member's government, I might add, when the tax system was very different.
  31. partly answered
    TransportMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states general collaboration but does not confirm discussion or funding commitment for phase 3.our government and the Quebec government collaborate on all transportation issues affecting the province of Quebec.
  32. deflected
    TransportMr. François Lapointe (NDP) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids any funding commitment and places responsibility solely on Quebec.Quebec can establish its own priorities.
  33. deflected
    Regional Economic DevelopmentLawrence MacAulay (Liberal) asked Mr. Jeff Watson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer discusses general mail volume declines and Canada Post finances without committing to the specific post office or addressing the alleged attack.Canadians are choosing to communicate in ways other than sending letters.
  34. deflected
    Rail TransportationMr. Tarik Brahmi (NDP) asked Mr. Jeff Watson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer offers condolences and notes ongoing investigation but avoids explaining any plan to correct the alleged lax approach.We do need to let the authorities continue their investigation.
  35. deflected
    EthicsMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states cooperation with authorities but does not address the request for an independent public inquiry.again, we are going to continue to work with all authorities and provide any information they require.
  36. partly answered
    Intergovernmental RelationsMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses manpower training and provincial cooperation but sidesteps the claim of interference in Quebec's jurisdiction.We would like Quebec and other provinces to work within our program, because we have jobs available in Canada.
  37. misdirected
    EthicsMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks opposition parties for defending the senators instead of addressing the call for a full inquiry.I will let the NDP, Liberals, and now the Green Party stand up for these three senators who are accused of very large infractions with taxpayers' money.