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Thursday, October 24, 2013 · sitting No. 7

Commons sets four-day limit on budget bill debate

Government House leader Peter Van Loan moved a time allocation motion that will allow four further sitting days of debate at second reading of Bill C-4, A second act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on March 21, 2013 and other measures. The motion, which passed, interrupted proceedings 15 minutes before the expiry of government orders on the fourth allotted day. Opposition members criticized the measure as unnecessary closure on a bill already subject to an agreed timetable.

In Question Period the main exchanges concerned the Senate expenses affair. NDP leader Thomas Mulcair questioned Prime Minister Stephen Harper on conflicting accounts of who in the Prime Minister's Office knew about Nigel Wright's $90,000 cheque to Senator Mike Duffy. Harper replied that Wright had acted alone with his own money and had taken responsibility.

Other Question Period exchanges addressed employment insurance changes affecting fishers and first nations education funding. Conservative MP Candice Bergen said a technical error on fishing income would be corrected in the budget implementation bill, while Aboriginal Affairs Minister Bernard Valcourt defended ongoing consultations on education reform.

Decided that day

  • Bill C-4 advanced after a vote

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Who held the floor · 2013-10-24

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 50%, opposition 50% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:20Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 15 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
58Budget bill advances after long debateThe House devoted most time to substantive debate on budget legislation and ethics, passing one recorded vote on Bill C-4 while introducing two other bills. Question Period produced few direct answers amid many deflections, though interruptions remained minimal.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Employment Insurance

NDP MP Robert Aubin asked whether the government still protects public-service whistle-blowers after Sylvie Therrien was dismissed for reporting EI fraud quotas. Conservative MP Candice Bergen replied that Service Canada has used the same system since 1993 and that the dismissal was a departmental decision.

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Foreign Affairs

NDP MP Paul Dewar asked why the government is removing export controls on military equipment when armoured vehicles made in Canada were used in Bahrain. Conservative MP Diane Finley said the items remain under existing controls and the change aligns Canadian rules with those of the United States.

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Telecommunications

NDP MP Anne Minh-Thu Quach said the minister's approval of Telus's purchase of Public Mobile reduces competition and choice. Industry Minister James Moore replied that wireless prices have fallen 20 per cent since 2008 because of government spectrum and foreign-investment policies.

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Aboriginal Affairs

Liberal MP Carolyn Bennett said first nations reject the government's education proposal because it imposes new requirements without new funding. Aboriginal Affairs Minister Bernard Valcourt said the proposal followed months of consultation and that no final decision has been made.

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Health

NDP MP Raymond Côté asked whether donations from Port of Québec directors and Arrimage Québec to the Conservative Party explain the government's inaction on toxic dust in Limoilou. Transport Minister Lisa Raitt said the port authority must balance jobs and community health and is an arm's-length body.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer denies the inconsistency without addressing the change in statements about who knew of the cheque.Obviously, he informed very few people.
  2. misdirected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to attacking Duffy and the NDP instead of addressing Novak's knowledge of the deal.the leader of the NDP insists on taking Mr. Duffy's view that he is somehow a victim in this matter.
  3. partly answered
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the caucus meeting but avoids confirming whether Duffy was named specifically.In response, I was extremely clear.
  4. deflected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer reframes the issue to general inappropriateness without reconciling the two versions of Duffy's expenses.It is clearly inappropriate to try and collect travel expenses when one is living at a residence he or she has had for many, many years.
  5. deflected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates general expectations of integrity without answering when or if a threat to expel Duffy occurred.If they do not do that, they cannot expect the support of their colleagues, they cannot expect the support of their leader and they cannot expect to stay in the Conservative caucus.
  6. misdirected
    EthicsDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks Liberal senators and denies allegations without addressing the promotion of Novak.The Liberal Party and Liberal senators are the ones who are trying to prevent this from happening.
  7. misdirected
    EthicsDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to criticizing Liberal senators and denies the premise rather than addressing the promotion.The allegations contained in that question are completely false and designed to do one thing and that is to deflect attention from the fact that it is the Liberal senators and the Liberal Party that refuse any reform in the Senate
  8. misdirected
    EthicsDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies the allegations and shifts blame to Liberals instead of addressing the promotion of Woodcock.Some people in the Liberal Party should recognize the same thing and take the appropriate action.
  9. deflected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates the PM's lack of knowledge without addressing why no one was fired.Any insinuation or any suggestion that I knew or would have known is incorrect.
  10. deflected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer focuses on Duffy's public statements instead of whether the PM asked about the repayment.It was Mr. Duffy himself who announced on national television that he had repaid these expenses.
  11. deflected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer denies many people knew but does not address the specific question about threats to expel Duffy.Again, Mr. Speaker, he alleges that many people knew about this. That is simply not correct.
  12. misdirected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP with a mud-slinging remark rather than addressing the differential treatment of the senator.when I look at the NDP I remember the old saying, "the more we throw mud, the more we lose ground".
  13. deflected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer gives general remarks on rules without identifying who paid for the travel expenses.What is relevant is whether they respect the rules that are in place and the spirit of those rules.
  14. deflected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to advocating elected senators instead of explaining the vote against the NDP motion.The solution is not to have senators or anybody else pretend they are non-partisan. It is to have them elected so they are accountable to the Canadian people.
  15. deflected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates that expenses were examined without addressing whether the PM misled or misunderstood the report.the member knows very well that what I said was that all of the expenses of Senator Wallin and indeed all of the expenses of the Senate would be examined
  16. misdirected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer criticizes the NDP's transparency instead of reporting on senators' election activities and payments.I wish the NDP were just as transparent with some of the union expenditure it gets!
  17. deflected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer restates facts about Wright without addressing the quantity implied by 'a few'.Mr. Wright says very clearly that the decision was taken with his money.
  18. misdirected
    EthicsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks Liberal and NDP leaders instead of addressing questions about the Prime Minister's staff actions.At the same time, let us contrast this to the lack of leadership of the Liberal leader who is prepared to invite back disgraced Liberal Senator Mac Harb into his caucus
  19. deflected
    EthicsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats the February 13 statement and pivots to Senate measures and Liberal blocking rather than addressing the cover-up questions.Right now in the Senate we have further measures to protect the Canadian taxpayers, and it is the Liberal Party that is blocking those attempts
  20. misdirected
    EthicsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberal Party on unrelated missing funds instead of addressing the Prime Minister's knowledge of the cover-up.We are still looking for the $40 million that had gone missing.
  21. partly answered
    Employment InsuranceMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Candice Bergen (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the dismissal decision and EI system but shifts to job creation without engaging the whistle-blower protection promise.the decision to dismiss this individual was made by department officials.
  22. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Candice Bergen (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies quotas and attacks the member rather than addressing the whistle-blower protection inconsistency.Shame on the member for making these comments about Service Canada officials and our officials
  23. answered
    Employment InsuranceMr. Robert Chisholm (NDP) asked Candice Bergen (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states the technical error is being corrected in the BIA act.actually, that technical error is being corrected in the BIA act, so I would expect the member to stand up when the vote comes and support the budget implementation act to correct it.
  24. misdirected
    Employment InsuranceMr. Robert Chisholm (NDP) asked Candice Bergen (Conservative). substantive question.The answer supports the dismissal and attacks the member's knowledge of the bill instead of addressing the war on whistle-blowers.It is shameful. The member needs to read it before he asks a question.
  25. answered
    Foreign AffairsMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly rebuts the premise and explains the export controls and alignment rationale.The items being proposed for de-listing will continue to be under existing export controls.
  26. answered
    Foreign AffairsMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly rebuts the premise and explains the export controls and alignment rationale.the items that are being de-listed will continue to be subject to export controls.
  27. partly answered
    TelecommunicationsMs. Anne Minh-Thu Quach (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses the claim that the approach is not working by citing price drops but does not engage the specific Telus-Public Mobile transaction.The cost to consumers has dropped by about 20% across Canada thanks to our government's policies and efforts since 2008.
  28. answered
    TelecommunicationsMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly defends the policy with data on price reductions and competition measures.consumers today of wireless services are paying 18% less than they were spending in 2008 on their monthly bills.
  29. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids the funding discrimination claim and instead criticizes the Liberals for lacking ideas.we have not yet received one single idea or proposal from the Liberals.
  30. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). substantive question.Answer pivots to inviting ideas and defending the consultation process rather than addressing the pause or funding request.I invite the hon. member, her party, and any other members of the House if they have great ideas as to how we can achieve the objectives or can improve on this proposal.
  31. deflected
    HealthMr. Raymond Côté (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts responsibility to the Port of Quebec without addressing the donation or health protection question.it is the responsibility of the Port of Quebec officials to balance the need to create jobs and have economic prosperity in the region with the needs of the community and protecting health and safety.
  32. deflected
    HealthMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts responsibility to the arm's-length port authority and redirects to longshoremen rather than addressing donations or action.It is an arm's-length organization, and it is there to balance the needs of the community with the needs of the local marine community as well.
  33. deflected
    International Co-operationMauril Bélanger (Liberal) asked Ms. Lois Brown (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses ongoing humanitarian aid instead of addressing why bilateral programs were not reinstated after the election.Canada is a leader in helping Malians through humanitarian crises.
  34. deflected
    LabourMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer rejects the premise and explains the process but does not identify which jobs will be designated essential.Changes to the essential services designation must be made before the negotiations so that they are applicable to the next round.
  35. partly answered
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMs. Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe (NDP) asked Chris Alexander (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the case and states that options for waiving costs will be examined without confirming reversal.We will be looking at every possible option for waiving costs and fees and showing compassion in this extraordinary case.
  36. deflected
    EthicsMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to repayment of expenses and Senate reform rather than stating when the Senate seat was first discussed.I think the real issue here that Canadians are expecting us to talk about is the fact that on February 13 the Prime Minister was very clear to Senator Duffy that he repay any inappropriate expenses that he had incurred.
  37. deflected
    Business of the HouseMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the use and purpose of time allocation without addressing whether the government will stop employing it.The purpose of section 78(3) is to allow the facilitation of the scheduling of our business here in Parliament.