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Wednesday, October 23, 2013 · sitting No. 6

Mulcair questions Harper on Duffy threats during extended ethics exchanges

Oral questions on ethics occupied the largest share of House time. NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair asked whether Prime Minister Stephen Harper had threatened Senator Mike Duffy with expulsion on February 13 and whether he had told Duffy the issue concerned perception rather than his actions. Harper replied that he had instructed the entire caucus that inappropriate expenses must be repaid and that no threat of expulsion had been made.

Mulcair followed by asking if Nigel Wright had been present when Harper told Duffy to repay his expenses. Harper said the instructions were given in a caucus room to many people and that Wright's repayment of Duffy's expenses had been neither authorized nor acceptable.

Other question period exchanges addressed first nations education funding, Bell's proposed customer data collection and the Canada-European Union trade agreement.

Decided that day

  • Bill C-543 introduced
  • Accountability motion defeated

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Who held the floor · 2013-10-23

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 47%, opposition 53% of the words spokenQuestion PeriodRoutine proceedingsGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 14:0515:0016:0017:00Last speech 17:40Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 3 h 35 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
51Ethics Talk Fills Day, One Bill IntroducedNearly half the sitting addressed ethics while the Economic Action Plan bill also received time, yet nine points of order and mostly deflected answers in Question Period slowed progress. One new bill was introduced and a single opposition motion was defeated.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Aboriginal Affairs

NDP MP Jean Crowder said the draft first nations education act would create costly bureaucracy while underfunding continued, and asked the minister to stop underfunding on-reserve schools. Aboriginal Affairs Minister Bernard Valcourt replied that the draft was open for consultation and no decision had been taken.

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Privacy

NDP MP Charlie Angus said Bell would collect extensive customer data without consent and asked the government to protect privacy rights. Industry Minister James Moore said the Privacy Commissioner was examining the matter and that the NDP bill on the subject went too far.

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International Trade

Conservative MP Phil McColeman asked the parliamentary secretary to outline further trade initiatives. Parliamentary Secretary Jeff Watson said the Canada-EU agreement and the Detroit River crossing would create jobs and long-term prosperity.

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The Economy

NDP MP Peggy Nash asked Finance Minister Jim Flaherty to clarify his remarks on monetary accommodation. Flaherty replied that Canada did not require such measures because of its own economic management.

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Justice

NDP MP Françoise Boivin asked why the government had changed rules for Quebec judges on the Supreme Court without consulting Quebec. Justice Minister Peter MacKay said the government had tabled a clarification provision and awaited the court's ruling on Justice Nadon's eligibility.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. answered
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the yes/no question with an explicit denial before elaborating.At that particular time did I threaten him with expulsion? No, but when inappropriate expense claims are made, I expect corrective action to be taken.
  2. answered
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer opens with a clear denial of the quoted statement and then restates the actual position taken.Mr. Speaker, no, I absolutely did not say that.
  3. partly answered
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer confirms the statements were made to a group including Wright but does not confirm whether Wright was present specifically for the Duffy instruction.I made them to an entire caucus and senior staff, not just to Mr. Duffy and to Mr. Wright but to many others who were present and who heard them.
  4. deflected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer reframes the question around inappropriate expenses rather than addressing whether anyone called the expenses illegal.I clearly told our caucus and our staff that Mr. Duffy's expenses were completely inappropriate.
  5. answered
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the claim that Wright acted alone by citing Wright's own statements on who was informed.Mr. Wright has been absolutely clear in terms of who he told he intended to repay Mr. Duffy's expenses to.
  6. deflected
    EthicsMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer rejects the premise of the question and shifts focus to the accountability of Wright and Duffy instead of addressing personal responsibility.Mr. Wright has accepted his responsibility.
  7. deflected
    EthicsMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the request to testify and instead attacks the questioner's own handling of a similar case.The very first thing he said was he thought that Mac Harb should be readmitted to the Liberal caucus.
  8. deflected
    EthicsMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer rejects the premise and reiterates expectations of others without addressing the call to testify under oath.Mr. Wright has accepted his responsibility.
  9. deflected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids naming any officials and pivots to Wright's statement.Mr. Wright has said very clearly that this was a decision he took using his own resources.
  10. deflected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats Wright's account without addressing whether the PM was misinformed or why staff remain.He did not name 13 individuals.
  11. answered
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states support for the motion and clarifies the PM's role.Let me be unequivocal for the record.
  12. partly answered
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses Perrin's role indirectly but reaffirms the PM's lack of knowledge.any assertion that I was in any way consulted or had any knowledge of Mr. Wright's payment to Mr. Duffy is categorically false.
  13. deflected
    EthicsMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer refers to investigations without committing to releasing documents.Obviously, any information that we can provide, we have provided and will continue to provide.
  14. deflected
    EthicsMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates prior public comments instead of addressing the June 5 exchange.Mr. Wright has been very clear about who he told or who he informed of his intentions.
  15. misdirected
    EthicsMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to Senate eligibility rules and attacks the NDP instead of confirming any undertaking.I think Canadians widely share that view, and I am surprised that the NDP now seems very uncertain on that matter.
  16. deflected
    EthicsMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the premise and pivots to Duffy's expenses rather than reconciling versions of events.
  17. deflected
    EthicsMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). rhetorical question.The question is a lengthy accusation ending mid-sentence without a clear factual query, and the answer dismisses it as rhetoric while shifting to general principles.That is a lot of rhetoric, Mr. Speaker.
  18. partly answered
    EthicsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The question asks specifically about the Prime Minister's presence and a meeting on February 11, and the answer addresses the key implication while denying approval of the payment.I spoke to Mr. Duffy on one occasion about that on February 13.
  19. answered
    EthicsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The question seeks confirmation of any conversation or debriefing on February 11, and the answer directly states no and clarifies the timeline.Mr. Speaker, the answer to the direct question is no.
  20. deflected
    EthicsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The question assumes a cover-up and orders given by the Prime Minister, and the answer rejects the premise outright without engaging the listed individuals or responsibility.Mr. Speaker, once again the entire premise of that question is false.
  21. partly answered
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). substantive question.The question asks the minister to stop underfunding and agree to work with First Nations, and the answer addresses consultation but not the funding demand.With first nations stakeholders, provinces, and people who care, we look forward to participating in this consultation process and receiving their comments and feedback
  22. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsMr. Jonathan Genest-Jourdain (NDP) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). substantive question.The question focuses on underfunding as the root problem, and the answer criticizes the member while denying the premise about performance-based funding.the member would do well to prepare his own questions.
  23. answered
    PrivacyMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The question asks the government to act on Bell's data practices, and the answer points to the Privacy Commissioner as the avenue for action.The good news for my colleague opposite and for those Canadians who are concerned is that the Privacy Commissioner, whom I met with yesterday, is looking at this matter.
  24. answered
    PrivacyMs. Charmaine Borg (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The question asks whether the Conservatives will support the bill or Bell's practices, and the answer directly rejects both while explaining the commissioner's role.
  25. deflected
    The EconomyMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids stating the minister's position and pivots to Canada's economic management instead.We have a Canadian position, our own situation in Canada, and we are fortunate, in my view, because of solid economic management, which one would expect me to say, that we are not in need of such a remedy.
  26. deflected
    The EconomyMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The response addresses only extraordinary measures, not the distinction or normal policy.I have an agreement with the Bank of Canada about the use of extraordinary measures.
  27. misdirected
    The BudgetMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Kellie Leitch (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the policy but ends by questioning the member's stance instead of addressing the specific change.I ask the member opposite why she is not on board with this.
  28. partly answered
    JusticeMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Addresses the defense of bar members but sidesteps the lack of consultation and economic link.our government believes very strongly that we should defend the rights of long-serving members of the Quebec bar, and in fact of every bar in the country, to serve on the highest court of Canada.
  29. deflected
    EthicsMs. Judy Foote (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer focuses on Duffy's expenses and Prime Minister's statements rather than the hiring of Woodcock.What was very clear is that when Senator Duffy approached the Prime Minister about his inappropriate expenses, the Prime Minister told him to repay those expenses.
  30. deflected
    EthicsDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.Responds with general statements on responsibility and law but avoids addressing specific individuals or allegations mentioned.Mr. Wright, at the same time, has accepted full responsibility and sole responsibility for this.
  31. deflected
    International Co-operationMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Ms. Lois Brown (Conservative). loaded question.The response emphasizes seeking advice from all but does not address the specific concern about the mining industry dictating policy.Our government will continue to seek advice from all players to ensure we continue to deliver results for both Canadians and our development partners.
  32. deflected
    International Co-operationMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Ms. Lois Brown (Conservative). loaded question.Highlights expertise from various fields without confirming or denying business control over agenda.We have experts from all disciplines: academics, business, public service, diplomatic and civil society.
  33. misdirected
    FinanceScott Brison (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner personally instead of addressing the legislation query.of course, it would be a foreign concept to my friend opposite to talk to him about balanced budgets.
  34. deflected
    HealthMr. Raymond Côté (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts responsibility to port officials without confirming any ministerial action.the Port of Quebec officials are the ones responsible for balancing the economic inputs and effects they have in the Quebec area to create jobs, as well as the health and safety of the residents in the area.
  35. answered
    Employment InsuranceMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly denies the claimed policy and explains the actual process.
  36. deflected
    Intergovernmental RelationsMr. Jean-François Fortin (Bloc) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer rejects the premise and notes the court context rather than addressing the commitment query.that question is based on false premises.