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Thursday, November 22, 2012 · sitting No. 183

Commons limits debate on first nations financial bill

The House of Commons devoted the largest share of its sitting to government orders on the First Nations Financial Transparency Act. Conservative MP Peter Van Loan moved a motion to allot one further sitting day to report stage and one sitting day to third reading. New Democrat MP Nathan Cullen called the motion the 29th use of closure by the government and accused it of hypocrisy on accountability.

Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux said the government House leader had failed to negotiate a productive legislative agenda. Conservative MP John Duncan replied that the bill had already received extensive debate and committee study since its introduction in November 2011.

In Question Period New Democrat Leader Thomas Mulcair asked why the Prime Minister would not share contingency plans for a possible recession with premiers meeting in Halifax. Prime Minister Stephen Harper said he meets premiers regularly and pointed to 800,000 net new jobs created since the end of the recession.

Decided that day

  • Motion relating to Bill C-27 passed
  • House proceeded to Orders of the Day

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Who held the floor · 2012-11-22

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 44%, opposition 56% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:00Last speech 17:25Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 7 h 20 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
67First Nations bills advance amid failed motionsThe House spent most of its time on three First Nations acts and passed two procedural motions, including one tied to Bill C-27. Question period produced mostly deflected answers while several attempts to hear members or adjourn debate failed.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

National Defence

New Democrat MP Mathieu Ravignat said a committee report on F-35 costs was a whitewash that ignored Auditor General findings, while Conservative MP Andrew Saxton said the report reflected open testimony.

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Poverty

New Democrat MP Libby Davies said 800,000 children live in poverty and called for a national strategy, while Conservative MP Diane Finley said the child poverty rate is less than half what it was under the previous Liberal government.

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International Trade

New Democrat MP Don Davies warned that European trade talks could allow foreign corporations to sue Canadian governments, while Conservative MP Gerald Keddy said the minister was completing a comprehensive economic agreement.

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Foreign Investment

New Democrat MP Peter Julian cited Preston Manning's opposition to the Nexen sale to a Chinese state firm, while Conservative MP Christian Paradis said the government scrutinizes every foreign investment.

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Search and Rescue

New Democrat MP Annick Papillon said closing the Quebec City centre would endanger mariners and impair French services, while Conservative MP Gail Shea said bilingual capacity would be maintained.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Intergovernmental AffairsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the specific question about sharing contingency plans or meeting premiers in Halifax by restating general meetings and job numbers.unlike the leader of the NDP , I meet with the premiers very regularly.
  2. deflected
    Intergovernmental AffairsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer sidesteps the Halifax meeting criticism by repeating claims of regular meetings and economic performance.I meet with Canada's premiers regularly.
  3. misdirected
    Government AccountabilityThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the Parliamentary Budget Officer court issue and instead lists unrelated economic achievements.once again, I must set the record straight regarding the government's performance.
  4. partly answered
    PovertyMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses child poverty statistics and programs but does not commit to new action on the 800,000 children figure.the child poverty rate in Canada is less than half what it was under the Liberal government.
  5. partly answered
    PovertyMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends existing programs and cites reduced poverty numbers but does not address adopting a national strategy.There are 225,000 fewer children living in poverty in this country than in the last year under the Liberals
  6. deflected
    Intergovernmental AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims regular meetings but does not explain any objection to a dedicated first ministers conference on economic issues.I meet extremely regularly with the premiers, not just with the premiers but with business leaders
  7. deflected
    Intergovernmental AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the constitutional approach and meetings but avoids committing to regular first ministers conferences.We respect the distribution of powers in Canada's Constitution
  8. deflected
    Intergovernmental AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer dismisses more meetings in favor of action but does not address the call for first ministers cooperation on shared issues.precisely what Canadians want from their leaders is not more meetings.
  9. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Mr. Andrew Saxton (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids admitting any flaw by restating acceptance of the AG report and their plan instead.We accept the Auditor General's recommendation. We have implemented a seven-point plan to deal with his recommendation.
  10. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.Answer sidesteps the concealment claim by emphasizing oversight without addressing prior knowledge or transparency failures.the amount of oversight and due diligence that is being applied to this file is unprecedented.
  11. answered
    National DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly confirms the options review will not be constrained by the prior statement of requirements.When it comes to the statement of requirements, the review of options will not be constrained by the previous statement of requirements.
  12. partly answered
    National DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses the requirements issue but ignores the call for the minister to assure changes were made.That review of options will not be constrained by the previous statement of requirements.
  13. partly answered
    National DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses the recommendations count but ignores the F-35 and responsibility demands while shifting to the report.What he would know is that, in fact, 10 of the 12 recommendations have been actioned.
  14. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the election fraud question and instead attacks the NDP on unrelated spending and donations.How many of the calls made by the NDP during the last election were financed with the $300,000 of illegal union money they received?
  15. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer evades the Senate and fraud question by attacking the member on donations and separatist ties.He is confusing it with the congratulations letter he got from the separatist Québec solidaire for being the most generous donor in his constituency.
  16. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the coordination question and attacks the member on the gun registry and mining comments instead.But when he had the chance, he decided to betray his word and vote to keep the Liberal long gun registry in place.
  17. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the question about election calls and instead attacks the asker on unrelated matters and past voting record.One day, he will have to be accountable for the false words he used with his own constituents when he promised that he would eliminate the long gun registry and went back on his word.
  18. partly answered
    Fisheries and OceansLawrence MacAulay (Liberal) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states fishers will be treated fairly but avoids committing to payment and shifts blame to the prior government.I can assure the hon. member and the House that these fishers will be treated fairly and that we will clean up the mess created by the Liberal Party.
  19. answered
    Canada Revenue AgencyWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly corrects the premise about medical records and explains the policy rationale for the change.we do not keep medical records.
  20. deflected
    TaxationMr. Rodger Cuzner (Liberal) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the tariff question by pivoting to past tax credits and opposition voting records.However, if I recall, I think everyone on that side of the House voted against that as well.
  21. deflected
    International TradeMr. Don Davies (NDP) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). substantive question.The answer focuses on ongoing trade talks and welcomes the asker back to the file rather than addressing the investor-state provisions.I would like to welcome the NDP back to the trade file.
  22. deflected
    International TradeMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cuts off without engaging the supply-management question and instead notes waiting for the light.I am waiting for the light to go on.
  23. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP and Liberals' positions instead of addressing the Nexen sale process.the NDP wants to block practically every form of foreign investment, and the Liberals want to rubber-stamp every investment.
  24. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer again attacks NDP and Liberal stances on investment rather than responding to the Preston Manning quote or Nexen concerns.when it comes to foreign investment, we know that at the extreme end of the spectrum, the NDP will block everything.
  25. deflected
    Search and RescueMs. Annick Papillon (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims no negative impact and lists resources but never addresses whether the plan will be reviewed or services kept in Quebec City.we are confident that the changes in Quebec City will have no negative impact on our ability to respond to distress incidents on the water quickly, effectively and in both official languages.
  26. deflected
    Search and RescueMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer repeats assurances on bilingual capacity without addressing the specific scenario of simultaneous French calls or the one-bilingual-employee claim.I can assure the hon. member that we are maintaining our bilingual capacity through the consolidation of the MRSC in Quebec
  27. partly answered
    Human Resources and Skills DevelopmentMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the general policy goal and review but does not clarify whether the company was dishonest or the rules were misapplied.That is why we are reviewing it, to make sure that the process will protect jobs for Canadians.
  28. deflected
    Human Resources and Skills DevelopmentMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates the requirement for employers to prove searches for Canadians and mentions a review without resolving which of the two alternatives is true.We want to make sure that the process is robust enough to support Canadian workers and we are reviewing it to make sure it does just that.
  29. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Kirsty Duncan (Liberal) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the accounting methods and international recognition but does not admit the approach is a delay tactic or commit to bargaining in good faith.our accounting methods for our sector by sector approach to responsibly regulating Canada's emitting sectors have been recognized and accepted internationally.
  30. misdirected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer briefly claims fast-tracking then pivots to attacking a colleague from another party instead of detailing further steps on Syrian sponsorships.
  31. partly answered
    HousingMs. Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites past spending on projects but does not address renewing the social housing agreement or creating a national strategy.That is why, under the economic action plan, we spent a lot of money on creating more than 16,000 projects to provide affordable housing to Canadians.
  32. deflected
    HousingMr. Mike Sullivan (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer contrasts NDP talk with Conservative action and repeats unit counts while ignoring the call to support a national affordable housing strategy.Under the economic action plan, 27,000 new affordable housing units were created.
  33. answered
    Citizenship and ImmigrationRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the policy distinction between genuine refugees and pending claimants regarding health coverage.A genuine refugee comes to Canada as a permanent resident and, therefore, qualifies for comprehensive provincial health insurance.
  34. deflected
    Science and TechnologyMs. Laurin Liu (NDP) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). substantive question.The answer opens by criticizing the opposition's question order before addressing the NRC move.I am a little disappointed that the opposition puts science at such a high level that it is the very last question in QP.
  35. deflected
    Canadian HeritageMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.The question assumes a revisionist and dangerous approach without evidence, and the answer pivots to unrelated investments.our government has made unprecedented investments in the cultural sector, including the War of 1812 exhibit.
  36. partly answered
    HealthMr. Bruce Hyer (Independent) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer affirms priority on health and safety but does not address the specific 2010 recommendations on radiation.Canadians are well served by a strong independent regulator who is free from political interference and continues to regulate the nuclear industry in this country.
  37. misdirected
    Business of the HouseMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts from the business of the House to attacking the Liberal Party and quoting a member.a news story just broke, which gave me some insight into it, where the young member for Papineau said that: Canada isn't doing well right now because it's Albertans who control our community and socio-democratic agenda.
  38. answered
    Points of OrderMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Tom Lukiwski (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the point of order and commits to a future detailed response.we will take his intervention under advisement and I wish to let you know, Mr. Speaker, that we would make a more detailed response at our earliest opportunity
  39. answered
    Points of OrderMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Mr. Tom Lukiwski (Conservative). substantive question.The answer confirms recognition of urgency and commitment to handle the matter expeditiously.I can assure the members opposite that we will be dealing with this expeditiously.