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Friday, November 23, 2012 · sitting No. 184

Commons debates first nations financial transparency bill

The House spent the largest share of its sitting on government orders for the First Nations Financial Transparency Act. Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux asked whether the government had conducted adequate consultation with first nations before drafting the bill. NDP MP Carol Hughes replied that consultation had been insufficient on this measure and others affecting first nations, and that existing funding agreements already provided sufficient reporting.

Question period opened with NDP MP Nycole Turmel pressing the government on stagnant consumer spending and rising household debt. Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird said the economic action plan had created more than 800,000 jobs and that the NDP had opposed every related measure. Later exchanges saw NDP MP Nathan Cullen and Conservative MP Peter Van Loan clash over the Prime Minister's limited meetings with premiers.

Decided that day

  • The motion that the Member for Halifax West be now heard passed

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Who held the floor · 2012-11-23

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 43%, opposition 57% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:00Last speech 13:00Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 2 h 55 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
40Debate flowed, decisions did notThe sitting devoted most time to the First Nations Financial Transparency Act yet advanced no bills through any stage. Only one procedural motion passed while Question Period produced few direct answers.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Member for Papineau

Conservative MP Kellie Leitch and others criticized Liberal MP Justin Trudeau for remarks that Albertans should not hold power and that best prime ministers came from Quebec.

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Food Safety

NDP MP Nathan Cullen asked when the government learned of the Capital Packers listeria recall; Agriculture Minister Pierre Lemieux said the CFIA had suspended the plant's licence after surface testing detected the bacteria.

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National Defence

NDP MP Mathieu Ravignat asked why updated F-35 cost estimates had been delayed until 2013; Public Works Minister Rona Ambrose said the independent firm needed more time for validation.

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Citizenship and Immigration

NDP MP Jinny Sims said Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall called the cuts to refugee health coverage unbelievable; Immigration Minister Rick Dykstra replied that genuine refugees would still receive coverage comparable to Canadians.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    The EconomyMs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer focuses on job creation instead of addressing household debt management.our priorities are job creation and economic growth.
  2. deflected
    The EconomyMs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses infrastructure and jobs but ignores the question about the Prime Minister meeting premiers.our government is working closely with all the provinces and territories
  3. partly answered
    The EconomyMs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the claim about meetings with premiers but does not engage the criticism of narrow vision.The Prime Minister has met with the provincial and territorial premiers over 250 times since he was elected.
  4. partly answered
    Intergovernmental AffairsMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the number of meetings with premiers but does not respond to the request for a face-to-face meeting now.the Prime Minister has had with premiers. In the past year alone, more than 50 of those meetings have taken place.
  5. partly answered
    Food SafetyMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). substantive question.The answer covers government actions on the recall but does not state when the minister became aware or confirm if tainted food reached consumers.Listeriosis bacteria was detected by the CFIA in products produced by Capital Packers through surface testing introduced by our government.
  6. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Massimo Pacetti (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the question about illegal donations and instead attacks the Liberal Party on unrelated comments.The divisive anti-Alberta comments made by the Liberal member for Papineau are much worse than the arrogant comments made by the Liberal spokesman for natural resources.
  7. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Massimo Pacetti (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to attacking Liberals on anti-Alberta views instead of addressing the money laundering or contract concerns.We knew that the anti-Alberta views in the Liberal Party were deep-rooted.
  8. misdirected
    EthicsGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer deflects by attacking Liberals over their mayor's charges rather than addressing the Conservative fundraising scheme.A clean conscience for a Liberal is really evidence of a short memory, a very short memory indeed.
  9. deflected
    Foreign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks NDP and Liberals rather than addressing consultation request.On one side of the House we have the radical NDP who would refuse and block all transactions and foreign investment.
  10. deflected
    Foreign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). loaded question.Answer mocks NDP and pivots to trade stance instead of addressing public consultation.I congratulate the NDP for finally learning how to use social media.
  11. deflected
    Foreign InvestmentMr. Jamie Nicholls (NDP) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats scrutiny claim and attacks NDP record without addressing consultation or nationalization.Maybe the NDP members should consult on their carbon tax.
  12. partly answered
    National DefenceMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.Answer explains delay and commits to tabling report, addressing transparency request.I think there is nothing more transparent than committing to table the updated cost estimates for the F-35 here in Parliament
  13. answered
    National DefenceMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly explains process and that statement of requirements will be set aside.The statement of requirements will be set aside while that full options analysis is done.
  14. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to attack on NDP donor history and unrelated Liberal quote.While I am on my feet, I know that the member across the way has been a very generous and prolific donor to the separatist cause in Quebec.
  15. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Dan Harris (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores donor question and attacks NDP on unrelated union money issue.The reality is that they have nothing but negativity over there in order to distract from the $340,000 in illegal union money they took
  16. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Dan Harris (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats prior deflection and pivots to NDP union money instead of addressing senator or scheme.The question is, why did the NDP not give information to Elections Canada about the $340,000 in illegal union money it received until the NDP got caught?
  17. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the specific question about returning funds and instead attacks the asker and another party.I already pointed out that the member has donated not once, not twice, but 29 times to the separatist Québec Solidaire.
  18. misdirected
    EthicsWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer deflects by attacking Liberals on unrelated matters rather than addressing the money laundering allegation.As I have said before, we expect that the Liberals will regularly throw rocks even though they live in a glass house, but we just ask that they start to pay rent for the glass house they live in.
  19. misdirected
    EthicsWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer changes the subject to anti-Alberta comments instead of responding to the call for an RCMP investigation.Unfortunately, when Liberals wave at western Canada, they do so with only one finger.
  20. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Scott Simms (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner and shifts to unrelated Alberta comments rather than addressing accountability for corporate funnelling.I do not even know where to start with that scattered question.
  21. answered
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Mr. Rick Dykstra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly rejects the premise and clarifies coverage details for cancer treatments under the program.It is not true to claim that asylum claimants who have cancer are no longer covered for cancer treatments under the interim federal health program.
  22. partly answered
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMrs. Carol Hughes (NDP) asked Mr. Rick Dykstra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses coverage changes but does not respond to the request to reverse the decision.it is clear that we have taken steps to ensure that genuine refugees and asylum-seekers from non-safe countries will receive health care coverage similar to what every Canadian receives in this country.
  23. answered
    Foreign AffairsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states the government's position and actions regarding the Congo conflict.We unequivocally condemn the acts of the rebel group M23 and call for an end to its aggressive actions against Goma and the surrounding area.
  24. answered
    Foreign AffairsMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly counters the claim of no action by listing specific investments and deployments.Since 2006 our government has invested more than $450 million in the Congo.
  25. deflected
    Parks CanadaMr. Philip Toone (NDP) asked Ms. Michelle Rempel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses general parks support instead of addressing the specific lease and plan for Forillon.our government has an excellent track record of supporting parks across this country.
  26. partly answered
    Parks CanadaMr. Philip Toone (NDP) asked Ms. Michelle Rempel (Conservative). substantive question.Addresses trail access but ignores the lease and management plan questions.parking lots will continue to be maintained so that visitors can continue to access snowshoe trails and other trails that are in that park right now.
  27. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsMr. Jonathan Genest-Jourdain (NDP) asked John Duncan (Conservative). loaded question.Avoids confirming or denying the cut by dismissing as timing-related stories.I do not know where the member is coming from but I will take his question under advisement and let him know.
  28. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked John Duncan (Conservative). loaded question.Ignores the specific cut question and pivots to unrelated investments.I do not know where the members are coming from.
  29. deflected
    The EconomyJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Restates general fiscal talking points without addressing the debt milestone or surplus claim.the finance minister has been practising very sound management of the Canadian economy, including our fiscal situation, which is why we have the strongest fiscal position of any of the major developed economies.
  30. partly answered
    HealthCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Mr. Colin Carrie (Conservative). substantive question.Addresses the broader abuse issue and licensing but not the specific request on federal drug benefit lists.That is why our government announced tough new licensing rules that will help to prevent drugs like OxyContin from being illegally distributed.
  31. answered
    Status of WomenMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Steven Fletcher (Conservative). substantive question.Directly states the arm's-length status and commitment to implement the ruling.Canada Post officials respect the Supreme Court decision on pay equity and will implement the court's ruling as soon as possible.
  32. misdirected
    Status of WomenMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Steven Fletcher (Conservative). substantive question.Answers the timing question then attacks the asker on unrelated policy positions.while I have the floor, that member is not representing men or women in her riding when she stands up and advocates for policies against the resource extraction industry, a carbon tax and other things that would harm families.
  33. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsMauril Bélanger (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses Mali but ignores Ivory Coast and Congo.We are prepared to work with our allies and with Mali's neighbours on ways with which we can be supportive of an effort to tackle this significant challenge.
  34. partly answered
    InfrastructureMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.Answer affirms funding commitment but sidesteps the candidate disagreement and flip-flop claims.We are pleased to have committed over $250 million in funding to the capital regional district for a waste water treatment program.
  35. misdirected
    HousingMs. Marie-Claude Morin (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the NDP voting record instead of addressing the bill or UN commitment.if NDP members were truly serious about helping those who are in need of affordable housing, they would have voted for any number of the programs in which we have delivered just that to Canadians.
  36. deflected
    EthicsMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.Answer cites Elections Canada certification without addressing the straw-man allegation.all the details were provided to Elections Canada, which certified the information years ago.
  37. deflected
    EthicsMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.Answer again references prior Elections Canada approval without addressing the false-names claim.the Conservative Party provided all the documents with this information to Elections Canada, which approved them years ago.