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Wednesday, November 21, 2012 · sitting No. 182

House debates fighter jet report amid Liberal-Alberta clash

The House devoted the largest share of its sitting to committee business, including the ninth report of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts on replacing Canada's fighter jets. NDP MP David Christopherson presented the report and the committee requested a government response under Standing Order 109. NDP MP Mathieu Ravignat said the report failed to reflect evidence that the bidding process was flawed and not transparent.

Question Period featured repeated Conservative attacks on Liberal comments about Alberta MPs. Conservative MP Michelle Rempel and others condemned remarks by the Liberal natural resources critic that Alberta MPs should go home. Prime Minister Stephen Harper also raised the matter during exchanges on health and foreign investment.

Decided that day

  • S-11 and S-201 received royal assent
  • C-48 introduced
  • Financial support measures affirmed
  • Bill C-370 advanced to committee

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Who held the floor · 2012-11-21

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 45%, opposition 55% of the words spokenQuestion PeriodRoutine proceedingsPrivate members▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 14:0515:0016:0017:0018:0019:00Last speech 19:50Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 5 h 45 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
62Two bills assented, many motions failThe House granted royal assent to two bills and passed a motion affirming financial measures while advancing a parks act amendment. Several other proposals were defeated and most Question Period responses were deflected or misdirected.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Access to Medicines

NDP MP Hélène Laverdière said Bill C-398 would help save lives by fighting HIV-AIDS, tuberculosis and malaria without weakening safeguards on medicine quality or diversion.

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Foreign Investment

NDP MP Peter Julian asked what the government was seeking from CNOOC in the Nexen review, while Industry Minister Christian Paradis said every decision must prove net benefit for Canada.

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Securities

NDP MP Guy Caron urged Finance Minister Jim Flaherty to work with provinces to improve the passport system after the Supreme Court rejected a single commission, and Flaherty said discussions with provinces continue.

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Employment Insurance

NDP MP Anne-Marie Day said Service Canada forces seasonal workers to pay fees for employer declarations proving job searches, while Employment Minister Diane Finley called such fees unacceptable.

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Parks Canada

NDP MP Dennis Bevington said cuts to Parks Canada undermine park creation and resource protection in the north, while Parliamentary Secretary Chris Alexander defended fiscal measures and long-term commitments.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Government AccountabilityThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Denies hiding information without addressing PBO court action or specific data requests.The government has made available to Parliament and to all Canadians all relevant information whenever it is available and we will continue to do so.
  2. deflected
    FinanceThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.States budget goal but ignores the claimed contradiction and $8.6 billion discrepancy.on the contrary, the objective of the government is to bring the budget back into balance during this Parliament.
  3. deflected
    Intergovernmental AffairsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Highlights economic record instead of explaining refusal to attend the premiers' summit.since the end of the global recession, Canada has had the best economic performance of all major developed countries
  4. deflected
    Intergovernmental AffairsMr. Robert Chisholm (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Mentions general meetings but avoids confirming attendance at the Halifax summit.I meet regularly with my provincial colleagues. We will be getting together next month.
  5. misdirected
    Intergovernmental AffairsMr. Robert Chisholm (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Defends record then attacks NDP leader's attitude toward premiers.This is unlike the leader of the NDP, who has a different attitude toward the premiers.
  6. partly answered
    HealthBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Acknowledges problem and provincial cooperation but provides no specific actions on the crisis.the Minister of Health is taking the appropriate measures, given the government's legal responsibilities.
  7. partly answered
    HealthBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Explains legal limits on action but does not address requested cooperation or delay.it is my understanding that the government can only act in terms of forbidding products based on their legal use
  8. misdirected
    HealthBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Repeats prior point then pivots to attacking Liberals on an unrelated energy program issue.I find it shameful, not surprising, that 30 years after the national energy program, these anti-Alberta attitudes are still close to the surface in the Liberal Party.
  9. deflected
    Foreign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates general policy without disclosing what was requested of CNOOC.Our government will always act in the best interest of Canadians.
  10. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to attacking the NDP's carbon tax instead of addressing trust on past job losses.However, if we were to follow the NDP policy, everything would be lost from the outset, with a $21.5 billion carbon tax and an anti-trade and high-tax agenda.
  11. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP's tax positions rather than explaining how the CNOOC deal differs from prior cases.What is not in the best interests of Canadians is to propose a $21.5 billion carbon tax and then oppose measures to lower taxes for Canadians
  12. answered
    SecuritiesMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states respect for provincial jurisdiction and ongoing talks.We need to work on this some more and talk together, which we are currently doing.
  13. partly answered
    SecuritiesMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses working with provinces but cuts off without fully rebutting the centralization claim.The reality is, what the Supreme Court of Canada has said is that the provinces have some legislative competence in this area, constitutionally, and so does the Government of Canada
  14. answered
    SecuritiesMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains dual jurisdiction and cites ongoing provincial engagement including Ontario.The minister of finance for Ontario was here yesterday having a discussion with me about this subject and some other subjects.
  15. deflected
    SecuritiesMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer rebuts the transfer-payment premise but does not address refusal to meet premiers.Transfers, in all respects, in equalization, in the Canada health transfer, in the Canada social transfer, have grown to a record level in Canada from this government to the provinces.
  16. answered
    Public WorksMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the tragedy, expresses regret, and details new safety measures.Since this happened, we have introduced enhanced training and management oversights for all heating and cooling plants in the national capital region.
  17. partly answered
    Workplace SafetyMr. Denis Blanchette (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.Addresses federal health and safety leadership but ignores the specific rise in fatal accidents and the Kennedy case.Although we only have a small portion of the total employees in Canada, we lead the way in terms of making sure it is of utmost concern that the people who work in the federal jurisdiction are protected through health and safety measures.
  18. deflected
    Veterans AffairsMark Eyking (Liberal) asked Ms. Eve Adams (Conservative). substantive question.Pivots to attacking opposition motives instead of addressing the office closures or in-person service loss.The opposition is just trying to defend union interests. Here on this side of the House we actually defend veterans' interests.
  19. misdirected
    Tourism IndustryMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores tourism and parks entirely and instead attacks Liberals for comments about Alberta MPs.However, the Liberal Party is now undermining the unity of this country by attacking members of Parliament from Alberta for representing their constituents.
  20. misdirected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores the Syria sponsorship delays and instead attacks Liberals over remarks about Alberta MPs.When that member was the Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs, he never told the members of the Bloc Québécois to go back to Quebec.
  21. partly answered
    41st General ElectionMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Addresses Senate residence rules but does not engage with the broader electoral fraud question.We have asked the Standing Senate Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration to ensure that senators are complying with Senate policies and to take corrective action if they are not.
  22. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores the motion on electoral fraud and instead attacks the NDP on union donations and separatism.The NDP violated this law by illegally accepting over $300,000 from unions.
  23. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores the fraud allegations and instead attacks the NDP on union funding while questioning the member's federalism.His party defrauded workers of $340,000, which it took in illegal union money.
  24. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Ignores the Crawford hiring question and instead attacks the NDP on the gun registry and constituency work.only for the NDP would it be a scandal for a member of Parliament to spend too much time working in his constituency with the people he serves.
  25. answered
    Employment InsuranceMrs. Anne-Marie Day (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the fee issue and explains alternatives for proving job search.it is unacceptable for employers to ask for a fee for a letter of that kind.
  26. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The response avoids the question about internal Conservative concerns and instead attacks the NDP position.the NDP position is to have a 45-day work year.
  27. partly answered
    Employment InsuranceMr. Philip Toone (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). loaded question.The answer corrects the premise about closure and explains the policy change for deficit reduction.Forillon National Park will remain accessible during the winter.
  28. deflected
    InfrastructureMs. Olivia Chow (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The minister responds by criticizing the NDP's tax policies rather than addressing infrastructure funding.the member and her party have ideas like a carbon tax of $21.5 billion
  29. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Scott Andrews (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer diverts to accusing the Liberal Party of similar issues instead of addressing the robocall question.The Liberal Party of Canada rose today to talk about criminal fraud, the same day that a former Liberal minister was charged
  30. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Scott Andrews (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Responds with counter-accusations against Liberals instead of addressing the robocall issue.it is incredible to see the Liberal Party stand in the House of Commons and falsely accuse others
  31. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMs. Ève Péclet (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The minister claims no knowledge via memo, avoiding substantive response on the lease issue.no memo was sent to my office on this issue.
  32. misdirected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The response attacks the questioner's past statements rather than addressing the embassy security issue.it is passing strange by this member, who just last month was criticizing the government for moving too quickly
  33. misdirected
    EthicsCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberals' scandals and arrogance instead of addressing who changed the paperwork.it is not just that the Liberals accuse other people of things for which they have already been found guilty themselves; it is not just that they had the biggest criminal conspiracy in Canadian history, the sponsorship scandal;
  34. deflected
    Tourism IndustryMr. François Lapointe (NDP) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights industry meetings and growth but avoids any mention of the CTC budget reduction.This $78 billion industry has enjoyed steady growth for the past three years in a row.
  35. partly answered
    Regional DevelopmentMr. John Rafferty (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attributes layoffs to market forces and expresses sympathy but does not address government abandonment or specific spending critiques.The problems with the forestry industry are the result of market and product issues.
  36. answered
    Foreign InvestmentMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly corrects the factual premise about an India treaty and explains the status of negotiations.As a matter of fact, we have not concluded a foreign investment promotion and protection agreement with the Government of India.