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Tuesday, November 20, 2012 · sitting No. 181

Commons debates first nations financial transparency act

The House spent the majority of its sitting on the first nations financial transparency act at report stage. NDP MP Jean Crowder moved motions to delete clauses 1, 11 and 13, arguing the bill lacked proper consultation with first nations and that the government already held powers to release financial information. Conservative MP David Wilks countered that band members had testified to difficulties obtaining remuneration details and that committee appearances constituted engagement.

In question period NDP leader Thomas Mulcair pressed the government on foreign policy, citing a leaked document that he said placed economic interests ahead of human rights and democracy. Prime Minister Stephen Harper replied that the document was not government policy and that Canada continued to promote prosperity, democratic values and peace in every international engagement.

Liberal MP Bob Rae questioned the absence of new infrastructure commitments amid slowing economic growth and urged the government to accelerate gas tax transfers to municipalities. Prime Minister Harper said the permanent gas tax transfer already allowed municipalities to plan capital investments.

Decided that day

  • Two bills passed third reading

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Who held the floor · 2012-11-20

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 31%, opposition 69% of the words spokenGovernment businessGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:10Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 5 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
63Bills pass while answers stay scarceThe House spent the bulk of its time on the First Nations Financial Transparency Act and passed two bills at third reading. Question period produced mostly deflected or misdirected replies, yet substantive business dominated the day.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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41st General Election

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Foreign Investment

NDP MP Peter Julian asked why the government was negotiating CNOOC conditions in secret. Prime Minister Stephen Harper said every foreign investment was scrutinized to ensure it served Canada's interests and contrasted the NDP's blanket opposition with the Liberals' willingness to approve every deal.

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Intergovernmental Affairs

NDP MP Peggy Nash urged the Prime Minister to meet premiers at the Council of the Federation forum in Halifax to discuss the fiscal gap and economic outlook. Finance Minister Jim Flaherty said the Prime Minister had held more than 250 meetings with premiers since 2006 and that federal-provincial finance ministers would meet in December.

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Ethics

Liberal MP Marc Garneau asked how the minister for Labrador could remain in cabinet amid questions over donations and campaign spending. Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre said the minister continued to work hard and noted the Liberal Party still carried hundreds of thousands of dollars in illegal loans.

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The Environment

NDP MP Megan Leslie said Environment Minister Peter Kent had dismissed the cost of the sector-by-sector greenhouse gas plan as unimportant. Minister Kent replied that cost-benefit analyses for the first two regulated sectors were already on the Environment Canada website.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Foreign AffairsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Denies the document is policy and restates general pillars without addressing the quoted past statement or specific plan.the leader of the NDP is quoting a document that is not government policy.
  2. answered
    Foreign AffairsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Directly counters the Congo-specific accusation with details of actions taken at the summit and programs announced.I recently attended the Summit of the Francophonie in the Democratic Republic of Congo, and I stated our position concerning the violation of human rights.
  3. deflected
    Foreign AffairsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Restates pillars then attacks NDP for opposing prosperity instead of addressing the values-versus-economics contradiction.Since the NDP is against enhancing prosperity, perhaps it thinks that is a policy of values.
  4. deflected
    Intergovernmental AffairsMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Lists past meetings but avoids committing to attending the upcoming premiers' forum.the Prime Minister, of course, meets regularly with the premiers.
  5. misdirected
    Intergovernmental AffairsMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores the question on meeting premiers and instead attacks the opposition by comparing them to Greece.now we know where the opposition sets the bar for its fiscal performance.
  6. answered
    InfrastructureBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Confirms the gas tax transfer is already permanent, directly addressing the request for planning certainty.Our government is the one that made the gas tax transfer to our municipalities permanent so that they can indeed borrow against those revenues and plan for the future.
  7. partly answered
    InfrastructureBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Repeats the gas tax permanence but does not address the request for a new 2013 budget infrastructure commitment.it was our party that made that measure a permanent part of Canada's budget.
  8. misdirected
    InfrastructureBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Attacks the Liberal record and voting history instead of addressing the slowing economy or new infrastructure commitment.The Liberal Party voted against those very measures when we brought them forward as part of our budgets.
  9. deflected
    Foreign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer states general policy on investment scrutiny but avoids the specific request or secrecy concerns raised.The government's policy on these matters, while we welcome foreign investment, is to scrutinize every individual foreign investment to ensure they are in the bests interests of our country.
  10. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer interrupts and attacks credibility rather than engaging the point on Falconbridge.Credible and foreign investment.
  11. deflected
    Foreign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates NDP opposition and job numbers instead of addressing enforcement failures on past takeovers.As a consequence of this government's measures, over 800,000 net new jobs have been created.
  12. deflected
    Foreign InvestmentMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer labels the question as politicization and pivots to NDP policy attacks without explaining the specific decisions.it is unbelievable that the opposition is trying to politicize the reviews and the process so that it can impose its radical, anti-trade program
  13. deflected
    Foreign InvestmentMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats net-benefit language and attacks an unrelated carbon tax instead of stating conditions for CNOOC.we will not use a trade or manufacturing policy like that of the NDP, which would like to impose a $21.5 billion carbon tax on the backs of Canadians.
  14. deflected
    Foreign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer accuses the opposition of politicizing reviews and cites job creation without addressing job guarantees or transparency.What we will do is to evaluate whether these transactions are likely to provide a net benefit for Canada, always in the best interests of Canadians.
  15. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the fraud claims and pivots to attacking the member's past donations instead of addressing the bill.Speaking of transparency, I would like to ask the member to stand in the House and state whether or not, after all the donations he made to the separatists, he is federalist.
  16. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to criticizing an unrelated tax proposal and the member's donations rather than responding on election rules.What I find so troubling is that the member does not have the same degree of generosity with taxpayers that he did 29 times with his separatist friends back home.
  17. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the asker's record on the gun registry instead of naming anyone at headquarters.In fact, it was he who played a dirty trick on his own constituents after promising election after election to oppose the long gun registry.
  18. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends community outreach and attacks the asker on the gun registry rather than explaining the hiring.Maybe if that member did the same in his constituency, he would know that the good rural people in his riding do not want a wasteful, billion dollar long gun registry that harasses duck hunters and farmers.
  19. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Scott Andrews (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts blame to the Liberals and suggests asking Frank instead of addressing unredacted emails.Right now the only party in Canada that has been found guilty of illegal robocalls is the Liberal Party of Canada.
  20. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Scott Andrews (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats Liberal guilt and makes a personal attack on the member rather than committing to transparency.I do not think anybody in the House of Commons wants to be that frank.
  21. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to Liberal Party loans instead of addressing the minister's campaign financing issues.However, he need not take any lectures about loans from the party that continues to have almost $500,000 in illegal outstanding loans that have become donations well over the limit.
  22. partly answered
    EmploymentMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer outlines steps taken on the program but provides no timeline for fixes.We are also looking at the temporary foreign worker program to make sure that it does uphold our values.
  23. partly answered
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMrs. Sadia Groguhé (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer justifies office closures via efficiency but dismisses the question as ridiculous without addressing response rates.
  24. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsMs. Rathika Sitsabaiesan (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer details the government's stance on Sri Lanka but does not commit to a boycott decision.We have not yet made a decision as to what will happen at the commonwealth summit, but I can say that the House and all Canadians can count on this government doing the strong and principled thing to ensure the support of Sri Lankan people.
  25. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Wayne Marston (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer opens by attacking the opposition instead of stating concrete actions on the UN recommendations.I think this is a first. We have the official opposition running down the United Nations on the floor of the House of Commons.
  26. misdirected
    JusticeMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists unrelated programs and attacks the NDP voting record rather than addressing stable funding for the specific centre.What did the member opposite do? He voted against those programs.
  27. misdirected
    JusticeMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats attacks on NDP voting history instead of committing to long-term funding for victim services.It is our Conservative government that created programs like the national crime prevention strategy and the youth gang prevention fund.
  28. misdirected
    JusticeMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to criticizing the NDP's crime agenda rather than addressing court backlogs or justice system funding.When is the NDP going to get its act together and start standing up for law-abiding Canadians?
  29. partly answered
    JusticeMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer mentions adding judges in Nunavut but ignores the broader questions on court funding, legal aid, and bill consequences.we have increased the number of judges in this country for the first time in many years, recently with two new judges for Nunavut.
  30. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked John Duncan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer disputes the premise of the funding gap but provides no commitment to equal per-student funding.our numbers reflect the total spending per student.
  31. answered
    HealthHedy Fry (Liberal) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the new regulatory approach including caffeine limits and labelling.Last year our government announced a new approach to regulating energy drinks that would include limits on the levels of caffeine in these products.
  32. answered
    The EnvironmentMs. Anne Minh-Thu Quach (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). substantive question.The answer points to the specific location of cost-benefit estimates on the government website.The cost-benefit estimates of those regulations can be found on the Environment Canada website with the regulatory impact assessment statement.
  33. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). loaded question.The answer gives partial cost info for two sectors but immediately pivots to attacking the NDP's carbon tax instead of addressing the full plan's cost.The number that Canadians are interested in is the proposed $21 billion carbon tax that the NDP would pick out of the pockets of hard-working Canadian taxpayers.
  34. deflected
    EthicsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer dismisses the questions as ridiculous and contrasts with Liberal actions rather than addressing the specific request for a Public Service Commission investigation.these questions are absolutely ridiculous.
  35. deflected
    Regional DevelopmentMr. John Rafferty (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses general fiscal restraint and regional job creation but does not address the specific cuts to the Canadian Grain Commission in Thunder Bay.we are on track when it comes to making sure that government spends within its means.
  36. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Mylène Freeman (NDP) asked John Duncan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights general child and family services investments but ignores the specific unexpected cut to Kanesatake's national child benefit reinvestment.the investments we have made in child and family services across the country are paying dividends.
  37. partly answered
    Natural ResourcesMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states support for the pipeline subject to regulatory approval but does not explicitly commit to respecting Quebec's environmental assessment process.the government supports the principle of building a pipeline to the east, west and south, subject to regulatory approval.
  38. misdirected
    Points of OrderMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the request for unanimous consent and instead submits a different document while attacking the NDP's tax suggestions.I rise today to do likewise, submitting before the House the document entitled, "Infrastructure Funding Study Proposal"