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Monday, October 29, 2012 · sitting No. 171

Commons advances budget bill as NDP attacks omnibus approach

The House spent half the sitting on government orders for the jobs and growth act 2012. NDP MP Niki Ashton said the bill ignored Canadian priorities and democratic debate while continuing the approach of the earlier omnibus bill C-38. Conservative MP Dave Van Kesteren said the legislation focused on long-term prosperity jobs and growth and had already produced hundreds of thousands of net new jobs since 2008.

Question period featured exchanges on foreign investment the economy and employment insurance. NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair pressed the government on clear criteria for takeovers such as Nexen while Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird said reviews under the Investment Canada Act put the Canadian interest first. Liberal MP Bob Rae asked why the government had ended a pilot project that added five weeks of employment insurance benefits in high-unemployment regions without consulting the provinces.

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Who held the floor · 2012-10-29

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 48%, opposition 52% of the words spokenPrivate membersGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 11:0512:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:25Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 7 h 20 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
29Another sitting that went nowhereThe sitting devoted nearly two and a half hours to the Jobs and Growth Act yet advanced no legislation and held no votes. Question period produced mostly deflected answers and six calls to order.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Preventing Persons from Concealing Their Identity during Riots and Unlawful Assemblies Act

Conservative MP Blake Richards said Bill C-309 would give police a tool against masked participants in riots while protecting legitimate protesters. NDP MP Françoise Boivin asked whether existing Criminal Code provisions already covered the intended purpose.

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Ethics

Liberal Leader Bob Rae said the member for Labrador had exceeded spending limits and received questionable contributions. Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre said a new official agent was working with Elections Canada and pointed to past NDP and Liberal financing issues.

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Public Safety

NDP MP Rosane Doré Lefebvre asked what federal resources were ready for the approaching storm. Public Safety Parliamentary Secretary Candice Bergen said the Canadian Forces and Coast Guard stood ready and urged Canadians to consult getprepared.gc.ca.

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National Defence

NDP MP Matthew Kellway said hiring an outside firm for another F-35 cost review wasted money after the Auditor General's findings. Defence Minister Rona Ambrose said the seven-point plan required independent verification before any acquisition decision.

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Gasoline Prices

NDP MP Glenn Thibeault said a former Competition Bureau investigator had confirmed price fixing at the pumps. Industry Minister Christian Paradis said prosecutions had occurred in Quebec and accused the NDP of planning a $21 billion carbon tax.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. partly answered
    Foreign InvestmentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Addresses review process but ignores the promised clear criteria and deadline.The Investment Canada Act has provisions that allow transactions to be thoroughly reviewed.
  2. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Ignores the question and attacks the asker and NDP policies instead.It is interesting to see the member stand and support the oil sands, something that he once called a disease and something that his own policies want to shut down.
  3. deflected
    The EconomyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Restates job creation claims and pivots to attacking NDP carbon tax.The only thing the NDP would want to do to that is bring in a $21.5 billion carbon tax on Canadians.
  4. partly answered
    The EconomyMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.Defends projections via meetings with economists but does not address job or GDP impacts of cuts., the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance and I met with Canada's leading economists just to ensure that our projections that will be going into the fall economic update and that will coming forward soon are ensuring objectivity and that our economic projections are on track and, indeed, they are.
  5. deflected
    Budget ImplementationMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.Avoids consultation and amendment issues by restating standard procedure and listing positives.My understanding is that there will be a suggestion that portions of the bill be moved for further study out to other committees within the House.
  6. deflected
    Employment InsuranceBob Rae (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Explains temporary nature but ignores lack of provincial consultation and impact on hardest-hit regions.Notice was given in 2010 that this temporary program would no longer be continued.
  7. deflected
    Employment InsuranceBob Rae (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Repeats job creation talking points without addressing the specific cuts or lack of consultation.This temporary measure was brought in and reintroduced in 2008 and 2010.
  8. misdirected
    EthicsBob Rae (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores the question and instead attacks the Liberal caucus and the asker.Why does the member not get his own Liberal house in order before he starts throwing barbs at an hon. man who is doing an excellent job for the people of Labrador.
  9. answered
    Public SafetyMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Ms. Candice Bergen (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly lists federal resources and preparation steps matching the query.The Canadian Forces and the Canadian Coast Guard are standing ready to assist.
  10. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Ms. Candice Bergen (Conservative). loaded question.The answer rejects the premise and pivots to hurricane readiness without addressing funding cuts.I disagree with the premise of that question.
  11. answered
    National DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains the purpose of the additional review as part of the seven-point plan.This review will help us make a decision on the replacement of the CF-18s
  12. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The answer discusses the action plan but avoids confirming any amendment to the statement of requirements.the secretariat has been set up to ensure that the entire seven-point action plan is handled appropriately
  13. deflected
    Gasoline PricesMr. Glenn Thibeault (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to past actions and attacks the NDP carbon tax instead of addressing price fixing.I must remind the member that it is his party that wants to put a $21 billion carbon tax
  14. deflected
    Gasoline PricesMr. Glenn Thibeault (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites prosecutions then pivots to attacking the NDP carbon tax proposal.I can assure my colleague that Canadians will not pay a fixed price on gasoline that is fixed through a job-killing carbon tax
  15. deflected
    Gasoline PricesMs. Annick Papillon (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists existing measures then attacks the questioner's numbers on the carbon tax.Is the hon. member getting her numbers for fixed gas prices from the same place she is getting her numbers for her party's $21 billion carbon tax?
  16. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the member then attacks the asker's colleague over unrelated donations.The member talked about five donations. Actually, it was 29 donations that his seatmate gave to the separatist party in Quebec.
  17. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP's past actions instead of addressing accountability for the member for Labrador.It was the member's party that broke those rules in accepting over $340,000 in illegal union money.
  18. deflected
    CensusMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims the data is usable and redirects methodology questions to StatsCan without addressing reinstatement.If the member opposite has questions concerning methodology, I invite him to ask questions directly of StatsCan.
  19. deflected
    CensusMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats that results will be useful and redirects to StatsCan without addressing reinstatement of the long form.If the hon. member has any more questions about Statistics Canada's method, I invite him to ask his questions to that organization directly.
  20. deflected
    CensusCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the national household survey and redirects methodology questions to StatsCan without addressing removal of jail penalties.Regarding the methodology used, if the members opposite want to ask more questions of the organization, they have to address them to StatsCan.
  21. deflected
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Fin Donnelly (NDP) asked Mr. Randy Kamp (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes the report's tabling date but offers no commitment on implementing recommendations.The report will be tabled in the House of Commons on Wednesday, October 31.
  22. deflected
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Fin Donnelly (NDP) asked Mr. Randy Kamp (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states the government will read the report but avoids addressing pre-report actions or commitments.That is why we will be reading it, as I encourage the member to do, when it is tabled in the House of Commons on Wednesday.
  23. deflected
    Official LanguagesMs. Alexandrine Latendresse (NDP) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). substantive question.The answer emphasizes merit-based appointments without confirming support for the bilingualism bill.Our government makes appointments on the basis of merit, and its top priority is to offer Canadians the best possible services.
  24. misdirected
    Official LanguagesMs. Alexandrine Latendresse (NDP) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP's past candidates instead of addressing support for the bilingualism bill.I remind the member that during the campaign for the May 2, 2011, election, the NDP ran unilingual anglophone candidates in francophone ridings in Quebec.
  25. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMrs. Anne-Marie Day (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Answer promotes existing reforms instead of addressing whether to backtrack or consult.We have made changes to the employment insurance system in order to support people who work while receiving employment insurance benefits.
  26. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats talking points on strengthening EI and quotes a third party rather than addressing protests or abandoning reforms.There are more shortages in the higher skilled positions, but we still have 30% of respondents [that is, employers] highlighting challenges and filling most skilled positions.
  27. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Answer corrects facts and restates policy without engaging the call to listen to criticisms or reconsider.the hon. member should get his facts straight about the changes to employment insurance.
  28. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMr. Robert Chisholm (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Answer promotes job-search tools instead of addressing protest size or ending alleged contempt.We are broadening the number of job alerts that are sent to them so they are aware of employment opportunities in their competencies and in their geographic area.
  29. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). substantive question.Answer disagrees briefly then pivots to attacking the NDP's trade position rather than addressing the treaty terms.Recently, the NDP member for British Columbia Southern Interior wrote that trade agreements "threaten the very existence of our nation".
  30. deflected
    Foreign InvestmentMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). substantive question.Answer dismisses the premise as nonsense and restates equal application without addressing transparency or risk imbalance.
  31. partly answered
    TaxationMr. Hoang Mai (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses CRA staffing and tax evasion efforts but does not address resource levels or cuts to combat evasion.I can assure the House that the Canada Revenue Agency is not laying off any tax evasion experts.
  32. answered
    TaxationMr. Hoang Mai (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states they are targeting offshore cheats and provides audit and recovery figures.I can assure my colleague across the way that we are targeting offshore tax cheats.
  33. deflected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses illegal work but shifts to general foreign student issues instead of the specific deportation basis.We do have a problem of many foreign students working illegally in Canada.
  34. deflected
    International Co-operationMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). substantive question.Answer praises CIDA efforts without addressing the rally invitation or bill support.the CIDA network of aid and support is well-known and well appreciated.
  35. deflected
    Government SpendingMs. Charmaine Borg (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes attacks on organizations; answer discusses efficiency reviews without confirming or denying impact.we have been reviewing how we could deliver programs and services to Canadians and finding better, more efficient and effective ways of spending their tax dollars
  36. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMr. Bruce Hyer (Independent) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). rhetorical question.Question challenges MP loyalty; answer pivots to budget support and attacks NDP instead of addressing ELA closure.It is too bad that the NDP chose not to support our last budget, which increased investments in that area.