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Friday, October 26, 2012 · sitting No. 170

Commons debates omnibus budget bill under time allocation

The House devoted the largest share of its time to second reading of the Jobs and Growth Act, 2012. NDP members Charmaine Borg, Hoang Mai and Claude Gravelle argued that the more than 400-page bill had received too little scrutiny and that time allocation prevented meaningful amendment. Conservative members Richard Harris and others countered that the budget measures had been public for months and that the NDP had never supported government legislation.

Question period featured repeated exchanges on the Navigable Waters Protection Act. NDP member Megan Leslie said references to the environment had been removed from the Transport minister's website and accused the government of weakening environmental protection. Conservative House leader Peter Van Loan replied that the act concerns navigation only and accused the NDP of promoting a $21.5-billion carbon tax.

Further questions addressed foreign takeovers and food safety. NDP members Hélène LeBlanc and Peter Julian pressed Industry Minister Christian Paradis for clearer criteria on net benefit. Liberal member Ralph Goodale questioned Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz over XL Foods inspection standards and the minister's knowledge of the outbreak.

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Who held the floor · 2012-10-26

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 49%, opposition 51% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodRoutine proceedingsGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:00Last speech 13:30Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 3 h 25 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
27Another sitting that went nowhereThe sitting devoted most time to debate on the Jobs and Growth Act and other topics yet advanced no bills or votes. Question period produced largely deflected answers and one minor procedural note.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Agriculture and Agri-Food

NDP member Malcolm Allen said changes to the Canadian Grain Commission hidden in the budget bill would undermine farmer protections and eliminate appeal tribunals. Conservative member Pierre Lemieux replied that the reforms would cut $20 million in costs ultimately paid by farmers.

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Public Safety

NDP member Randall Garrison said the Auditor General found only $20.9 million of $980 million allocated for cyber security had been spent on that purpose. Conservative member Candice Bergen answered that the government had made progress and had announced new funding the previous week.

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Regional Development

Conservative member Dean Allison asked how northerners would be consulted on Canada's Arctic Council priorities. Minister Leona Aglukkaq said she would begin meetings in Nunavut the following day.

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Citizenship and Immigration

Conservative member Costas Menegakis asked for an update on measures against marriage fraud. Parliamentary secretary Rick Dykstra said newly sponsored spouses would now have to live with their sponsor for two years or risk losing status.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer changes the subject from departmental environmental responsibility to an attack on the NDP carbon tax.The people who are interested in hiding things are not us, but the NDP.
  2. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the website inconsistency by accusing the member of not reading the statute and attacking NDP readiness.The member thinks it is about something else.
  3. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the Navigable Waters question entirely and pivots to repeated attacks on NDP tax policy.the attack we are concerned about is the attack on Canadians by a $21.5 billion carbon tax proposed by the NDP in the last election
  4. partly answered
    Foreign InvestmentMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the Progress Energy decision and Petronas process but does not clarify general takeover criteria.However, under the law, Petronas has up to 30 days to make representations and additional commitments.
  5. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP leader's past comments and carbon tax instead of disclosing decision criteria for Nexen.If the NDP members believe the latter, why are they proposing a $21.5 billion carbon tax that would not only raise gas prices for Canadian consumer, but would also devastate the resource sectors that have driven economic success in so many provinces across this country?
  6. deflected
    Food SafetyRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends CFIA actions and promotes a bill rather than addressing why standards are lower than global ones or the timing of XL's return.The safe food for Canadians act is an important tool to strengthen our food safety system.
  7. deflected
    Food SafetyRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends CFIA timing and attacks the member's voting record instead of explaining the minister's own delay after September 5.As a last comment, every time we have attempted to give the CFIA more resources, like new inspectors or additional funding, this member and his party have voted against these measures.
  8. deflected
    Food SafetyMr. Massimo Pacetti (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims CFIA acted appropriately and urges reading Bill S-11 instead of explaining the minister's contradictory statements on authority.If he would only read Bill S-11 , he would see where we are headed.
  9. deflected
    Foreign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates the legal process without addressing whether changes to the net benefit test will occur before the deadline.We will ensure that whatever decision is made, it will be done in the national interest of Canada.
  10. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP with unrelated carbon tax claims instead of addressing the net benefit test or deadline.Canadians will not have any coins left to flip after that $21.5 billion NDP carbon tax.
  11. partly answered
    Food SafetyMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the review of mechanical tenderization science but does not discuss CFIA actions, cuts, or responsibility.Health Canada is always reviewing new science and new information to ensure that the safety of Canadians is protected.
  12. deflected
    Agriculture and Agri-FoodMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). substantive question.The answer promotes government platform and criticizes the member without explaining the grain commission changes or bonding requirements.it is clear to me that the member does not understand the challenges facing farmers.
  13. deflected
    Agriculture and Agri-FoodMs. Ruth Ellen Brosseau (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats cost savings and quotes a supporter but does not address the repeal of grain appeal tribunals or conflict resolution.These changes will eliminate about $20 million in unnecessary costs in the grain handling system, costs that are ultimately borne by the farmers.
  14. misdirected
    Food SafetyMs. Ruth Ellen Brosseau (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the system and attacks the member's attention and voting record instead of addressing external review or inspector resources.I do not know whether this member was paying attention, but what the minister was saying is that Canada's food safety system is a superior food safety system
  15. partly answered
    Public SafetyMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Ms. Candice Bergen (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the Auditor General and mentions future actions but does not explain why most allocated cyber security funds were unused.We are taking action on the Auditor General's recommendations and we will continue to enhance cyber security in Canada.
  16. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Ms. Candice Bergen (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends operations and quotes the Auditor General positively but avoids explaining the low spending rate on cyber security.At all times experts from the Canadian Cyber Incident Response Centre are available to deal with emergency situations.
  17. misdirected
    Democratic ReformMs. Alexandrine Latendresse (NDP) asked Tim Uppal (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to a Supreme Court quote about a Liberal candidate instead of addressing support for the NDP bill.As for the Supreme Court of Canada's decision, it states of the Liberal candidate: "[W]e reject the candidate's...attempt to disenfranchise entitled voters and so undermine public confidence in the electoral process".
  18. deflected
    Budget Implementation LegislationScott Brison (Liberal) asked Mrs. Shelly Glover (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks Liberals for seeking delays and lists unrelated measures rather than explaining why the bill cannot be divided for voting.We will not listen to the Liberals as they attempt to delay for the sake of delay.
  19. misdirected
    International TradeJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Ed Fast (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks Liberal hypocrisy on past treaty tabling instead of addressing whether the government will allow debate and a vote on ratification.The hypocrisy of the Liberals is astounding.
  20. deflected
    National DefenceJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Mr. Chris Alexander (Conservative). loaded question.The answer discusses budget growth and efficiencies but does not respond to the question about transferring budget-making authority from the minister.this government and this department are committed to finding new efficiencies to work more effectively to deliver the Canadian Forces mission at home and abroad.
  21. deflected
    Science and TechnologyMs. Laurin Liu (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer criticizes the NDP's attitude toward costs instead of addressing the layoffs at the National Research Council or economic spinoffs.the problem with the NDP members' attitude is that they measure success by the high costs associated with it.
  22. deflected
    Science and TechnologyMr. Kennedy Stewart (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats a talking point about judging success by results rather than addressing the firing of researchers or economic impacts.the NDP judges success by how expensive we can be.
  23. partly answered
    Science and TechnologyMs. Charmaine Borg (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer mentions the digital economy strategy and remote access investments but does not address bandwidth caps or services like Netflix.We have invested to expand Internet access to remote communities that otherwise would not benefit from it.
  24. deflected
    Science and TechnologyMs. Charmaine Borg (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks NDP economic policies as outdated instead of addressing Internet caps or helping businesses access services.the New Democrats are still listening to record players and it is appropriate that they do that because all of their economic policies come from the big government era of the 1970s.
  25. deflected
    Correctional Service CanadaMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Ms. Candice Bergen (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights general improvements without addressing the specific rise in self-injury cases among aboriginal women.Both access to treatment services for inmates and training for staff have improved under the result of our strong leadership.
  26. deflected
    Correctional Service CanadaMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Ms. Candice Bergen (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts focus to provincial responsibilities and pre-incarceration care instead of addressing CSC recommendations.Mental health issues need to be addressed before individuals come into contact with the correctional system.
  27. deflected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMrs. Sadia Groguhé (NDP) asked Mr. Rick Dykstra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the policy change without addressing reported confusion or treatment refusals at clinics.Canadians have been extremely clear on this issue.
  28. deflected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMrs. Sadia Groguhé (NDP) asked Mr. Rick Dykstra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer reiterates policy goals but ignores specific cases of denied care mentioned in the question.The purpose of our strategy with respect to interim federal health has been to ensure that we no longer pay for eyeglasses or dental work.
  29. deflected
    Employment InsuranceGerry Byrne (Liberal) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes job programs instead of addressing the minister's alleged lack of knowledge on EI files.our government is focused on job creation and economic growth.
  30. deflected
    Employment InsuranceGerry Byrne (Liberal) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists government priorities but does not respond to the specific accusations about EI and GIS handling.The minister has done everything to help facilitate that.
  31. answered
    The EnvironmentMrs. Sana Hassainia (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly clarifies the purpose of the Navigable Waters Protection Act in response to the question.I encourage the NDP to read the Navigable Waters Protection Act.
  32. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Steven Fletcher (Conservative). substantive question.The answer emphasizes the act's purpose and quotes supporters but avoids naming any consulted parties.the navigable waterways act is about navigation.
  33. deflected
    Status of WomenHedy Fry (Liberal) asked Mrs. Susan Truppe (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes an alternative ranking and calls for celebration instead of addressing the reported drop or the abortion vote reference.I call on the member opposite to join us in celebrating our successes and working hard to promote women's equality in Canada and around the world.
  34. answered
    Canada Revenue AgencyMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Mrs. Cathy McLeod (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses privacy and cost concerns raised about the archiving change.This change will ensure the privacy and the security of taxpayers' records, and will do so at a lower cost.
  35. misdirected
    Regional DevelopmentMr. Claude Gravelle (NDP) asked Mr. Greg Rickford (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to attacking a carbon tax instead of addressing snowmobile funding allocation.I know one thing we do not have a passion for, and that is to have a $21.5 billion carbon tax that will increase our cost of living, stifle small business and put major projects, whether it is snowmobile trails or the Ring of Fire, simply out of reach.
  36. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the Liberal record rather than providing an update on the requested provincial clawback mechanism.Interestingly, Liberal Party members have been asking questions about this after not having done anything to protect investors and businesses in China for some 13 years.
  37. answered
    Foreign InvestmentMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer clarifies the distinction between WTO matters and the investment agreement while addressing provincial concerns.Chinese investors in Canada for years have been able to rely on the Canadian rule of law.