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Monday, June 11, 2012 · sitting No. 138

Commons opens report stage on budget bill C-38

The House devoted the largest share of its sitting to government orders on the jobs growth and long-term prosperity act. Members moved dozens of amendments to delete or alter clauses of Bill C-38, with Marc Garneau proposing the deletion of clauses 1, 2, 7 through 11 and 13 and Peggy Nash proposing the deletion of clauses 4 and 6. Elizabeth May moved amendments to clause 7 that would redefine political activity for charities.

In question period the leader of the official opposition Thomas Mulcair charged that the bill slashes food inspections, border security, research, housing, health care, employment insurance and old age security while Peter Van Loan replied that the measures create jobs and avoid the path taken in Europe. Bob Rae questioned whether Canada is an island of economic stability and Peter Van Loan countered that Canada has posted stronger job and growth numbers than European economies.

Decided that day

  • Sitting hours extended until midnight
  • Jobs, Growth and Long-term Prosperity Act passed third reading
  • Bills C-23, C-26 and C-31 advanced a stage

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Who held the floor · 2012-06-11

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 44%, opposition 56% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodRoutine proceedingsGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 11:0513:0014:0015:0016:0017:0018:0019:0020:0021:0022:00Last speech 23:35Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 12 h 30 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
62Bills Advance as Hours ExtendedThe House devoted most of its time to substantive business and moved three bills forward, including passing one at third reading. It also extended sitting hours while recording only routine points of order.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Search and Rescue

Scott Armstrong said Atlantic Canadians depend on a responsive search and rescue system while Christine Moore linked her military medical experience to the need for faster response times.

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Aboriginal Affairs

Jean Crowder said food prices have risen in Nunavut after the program replaced food mail and Greg Rickford replied that the new model brings fresh healthy food at affordable prices at the point of purchase.

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Fisheries and Oceans

Robert Chisholm warned that scrapping fleet separation would allow corporate interests to dominate the east coast fishery and Keith Ashfield said no such change appears in the budget implementation act.

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Veterans Affairs

Steven Blaney announced that veterans will no longer need to submit receipts for travel to medical appointments under the veterans independence program.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    The BudgetMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer pivots to job numbers and Europe bailout instead of addressing budget cuts or transparency.As a result of our economic action plans, consistently opposed by the NDP, we have delivered for Canadians over 760,000 net new jobs so far.
  2. deflected
    The BudgetMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer mocks the question and repeats Europe talking point without addressing oversight cuts.I am not sure what the words "utter fabulation" mean.
  3. misdirected
    The BudgetMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to economic leadership claims and attacks the opposition's Europe stance rather than gag orders or study of the bill.the Canada that we are projecting onto the world stage is that of an economic leader, a leader among developed countries.
  4. partly answered
    The BudgetMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Answer cites the hiring credit as a growth measure but does not address the broader claim of cuts versus growth or splitting the bill.if the hon. member would read the bill, she would learn that there is a hiring credit for small business, for example, that we are extending, which is vitally important for business across the country.
  5. deflected
    The BudgetMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Answer contrasts with Europe austerity and repeats bailout attack instead of defending the budget's growth impact.if the member opposite wants to see austerity, then the member ought to look at the United Kingdom and other European countries.
  6. misdirected
    The EconomyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the Liberal record in Ontario and mischaracterizes their position rather than addressing Canada's isolation from Europe.That might be the kind of approach that worked in Ontario to get them into one of the deepest debts ever, under the leadership of that member.
  7. deflected
    The EconomyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer highlights G20 leadership on balanced budgets but ignores the isolationism critique and historical analogy.We have been leaders through the G20 process, where the Prime Minister has led the way on preaching the importance of resisting protectionist measures
  8. misdirected
    The EconomyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer again attacks Rae's Ontario record instead of engaging with the need for global financial architecture.when one looks at the track record of that member when he actually had a chance to govern, as he did in Ontario, one will see why we reject that approach to economic policy.
  9. misdirected
    Employment InsuranceMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks NDP voting record instead of addressing trust or unilateral EI changes.one thing we know we cannot trust is the NDP when it comes to creating jobs for Canadian workers.
  10. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates consultations and goals but avoids addressing new powers or refusal to consult.I and many of my colleagues have met with Canadians right across the country.
  11. partly answered
    PensionsMs. Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Answer explains sustainability rationale but does not address hiding changes in omnibus bill or need for study.We are changing the program to keep it sustainable.
  12. deflected
    PensionsMs. Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats sustainability talking points without addressing separate bill, analysis, or transparency concerns.That is why we want to safeguard it, which means gradually increasing the eligibility age from 65 to 67, starting in 2023.
  13. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer accuses NDP of making things up and urges support rather than clarifying affected parties or consultation limits.the NDP members need to quit making things up.
  14. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer cites consultations and critic's absence but avoids addressing cabinet override or lack of science.The critic herself chose not to attend most of those committee meetings after she had taken a slot on the committee
  15. answered
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Mr. Greg Rickford (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly addresses program goals, advisory board, and subsidies for northern food prices.In consultation with northerners, retailers and suppliers, we created an advisory board made up of northerners to take stakeholders' concerns and provide recommendations to the government as this program develops.
  16. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Mr. Greg Rickford (Conservative). substantive question.Answer claims transparency and savings but does not commit to making program more transparent as asked.Nutrition north is bringing fresh, healthy food to northern homes.
  17. partly answered
    Aboriginal AffairsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Greg Rickford (Conservative). loaded question.Answer begins explaining the new food program after consultation but is cut off and does not fully address the UN attack or specific communities.northerners asked for a program that focused on healthy foods and traditional foods and on making them safe, secure and affordable at the point of purchase
  18. deflected
    National DefenceJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates pride in shipbuilding strategy and jobs but avoids addressing schedule or budget overruns.our government is very proud of the fact that we have committed to building our ships here in Canada for the Navy and Coast Guard
  19. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Scott Andrews (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to attacking the opposition's finance spokesman instead of addressing the parliamentary secretary's records or investigation.its own finance spokesman came out over the weekend and said that he wanted to take "massive" quantities of Canadian tax dollars and send them over to Europe
  20. misdirected
    EthicsWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the questioner about rent claims rather than addressing whether the RCMP was called in.this is coming from a member of Parliament who tried to claim rent money from the taxpayers, money to which he was not even entitled, and then kept it secret
  21. partly answered
    National DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses budget increase and reporting via public accounts but does not explain the $4 billion overrun or creative accounting claim.the Department of National Defence has enjoyed a billion-dollar increase in our budget, thanks to the support of the Minister of Finance and our Prime Minister
  22. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer explains accounting differences and attacks the opposition instead of detailing measures to control spending.I do know that we are not going to take advice from the no-defence party, which opposes everything we spend on the military
  23. misdirected
    National DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer affirms investments but calls the asker a hypocrite instead of outlining concrete measures for priorities or soldiers' support.There is one word for the member opposite, and that is "hypocrite"
  24. misdirected
    National DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer criticizes the questioner's suggestion as ironic and sad rather than presenting a new defence strategy or addressing spending.how ironic and how sad that the member opposite would suggest that military procurement, investments in our brave men and women and investments in our returning soldiers who need treatment that they and their families benefit from somehow depend on a catalogue
  25. deflected
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Robert Chisholm (NDP) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids the fleet separation question by denying any mention in the BIA and pivots to unrelated consultation feedback.There is no mention in the BIA about fleet separation or anything else.
  26. misdirected
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Robert Chisholm (NDP) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the questioner and denies knowledge of tagging changes instead of addressing enforcement cuts.I tend to think that the NDP makes up questions on the go.
  27. partly answered
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Philip Toone (NDP) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). substantive question.Answer provides specific job-cut numbers but does not address transparency on future cuts or habitat protection.We have sent out 1,000 letters of notification that jobs may be affected, which will probably net out to 400 jobs
  28. deflected
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Philip Toone (NDP) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates consultation process without addressing fleet separation or independent fishers' concerns.The purpose of our consultation process was to hear back from people in the fishery and fishing industry as to what they thought we could do as a government to improve the fishery
  29. partly answered
    Aboriginal AffairsCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Mr. Greg Rickford (Conservative). substantive question.Answer explains advisory board and retailer agreements but does not admit failure of Nutrition North or commit to new solutions.Our government has entered into formal agreements with food retailers to ensure accountability and to ensure the subsidy is being passed on to consumers
  30. misdirected
    PovertyMs. Lise St-Denis (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Answer defends child benefit policy without addressing why social organizations lost funding or the equity critique.our party believes that parents are in the best position to decide how to raise their children.
  31. deflected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.Answer reframes question as NDP policy attack and justifies cuts without addressing health risks to refugees.I am glad the member asked the question because it once more reinforces that the New Democratic Party is in favour of giving extra supplementary taxpayer-funded health benefits that are not available to taxpaying Canadian citizens, and that is just wrong.
  32. deflected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMrs. Sadia Groguhé (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats fairness principle and denies provincial cost shift without addressing specific pediatric health concerns.We believe that supplementary insurance should not be provided to asylum seekers.
  33. deflected
    RCMPMr. Sean Casey (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to training investments and Liberal criticism instead of the RCMP pension lawsuit.we have been very proud of the work that we have done with the RCMP.
  34. deflected
    G20 SummitMr. Andrew Cash (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids apologizing and instead praises security forces without addressing G20 planning failures.I am very proud of the work that was done by members of the Canadian Forces.
  35. partly answered
    HousingMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes Quebec's program but does not address federal standards or financial support.Any home owner who needs assistance should submit an application to the Société d'habitation du Québec.
  36. deflected
    G20 SummitMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats that experts made decisions without addressing the Prime Minister's role in timing or location.security issues, security matters and decisions around the G8 and G20 were made by experts, not by the Prime Minister and not by politicians.
  37. answered
    PrivilegeMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly apologizes for the unparliamentary language and personal attack.I apologize for calling him a hypocrite, and I reserve the word "hypocrite" in reference to the member for St. John's East
  38. answered
    PrivilegeMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Mr. Scott Armstrong (Conservative). substantive question.The answer provides a clear public apology and correction for the misattributed remarks.I wish to publicly apologize to that member for any inconvenience this may have caused.
  39. misdirected
    PrivilegeMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the timing and lack of specifics rather than engaging the privilege claim.he is very late in raising this argument.