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Friday, June 8, 2012 · sitting No. 137
Commons debates refugee bill as opposition raises environment and ethics concerns
The House devoted its longest single block Friday to government orders on Bill C-31, the protecting Canada's immigration system act. Conservative MP Rick Dykstra told the House that committee hearings on the bill and on Bill C-38 had been extensive and that the legislation would speed decisions for genuine refugees while deterring human smuggling. New Democrat MP Sadia Groguhé asked why the bill would create two classes of refugees and bar some from family reunification for five years, while New Democrat MP Alain Giguère said every legal expert had warned that ministerial discretion over safe-country designations should be removed.
In question period New Democrat MP Nathan Cullen pressed Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird on the elimination of the National Round Table on the Environment and the Economy and on changes to the Fisheries Act. Liberal MP Massimo Pacetti raised court affidavits concerning election spending by the parliamentary secretary to the prime minister and asked whether that was why the government opposed a royal commission into election fraud. Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre replied that Elections Canada would examine the documents and that the member had already stated his 2008 expenses were within legal limits.
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Who held the floor · 2012-06-08
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The Budget
New Democrat MP Guy Caron asked whether seniors' groups opposing old-age-security changes would be treated like environmental organizations and eliminated; Minister of State for Finance Ted Menzies replied that the bill extends the small-business hiring credit and funds skills training.
Read the exchangeFisheries and Oceans
New Democrat MP Philip Toone asked Fisheries and Oceans Minister Keith Ashfield why he had said he had no idea what fleet separation was; Conservative MP Randy Kamp said the minister had consulted fishers on policies that could give them greater flexibility.
Read the exchangeEmployment
New Democrat MP Rathika Sitsabaiesan said 250,000 fewer young people had jobs than before the recession and accused the government of shutting down youth job banks; Human Resources Minister Diane Finley said the government had increased funding for the Canada summer jobs program and added $50 million in the budget for challenged youth.
Read the exchangeThe Public Service
New Democrat MP Mathieu Ravignat said the government's public-service reductions were causing confusion and low morale; Conservative MP Andrew Saxton said economic action plan 2012 would reduce the federal public service by about 4 per cent over three years through operational efficiencies.
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- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer pivots to Kyoto protocol disagreement instead of addressing the round table closure.
I particularly liked Bob Mills when he spoke so passionately against the Kyoto protocol.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates government talking points on reforms and jobs without addressing the bill split or former ministers' warnings.
we have brought forward some common sense reforms to environmental approvals, including in the Fisheries Act, to ensure that we focus on protecting fish habitat and not on over-regulating farmers.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to debate length and job numbers rather than addressing environmental assessment cuts or splitting the bill.
Our budget, budget 2012, is focused on jobs and the economy.
- misdirectedThe BudgetMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks opposition for opposing the bill instead of addressing concerns from Conservative figures and seniors groups.
I would like to know if they have actually changed their minds?
- deflectedThe BudgetMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates sustainability talking points without addressing the broken promise on OAS cuts.
We are looking after our seniors today, and those of future generations.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Massimo Pacetti (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer praises the member's integrity and attacks opposition standards instead of addressing the affidavit evidence.
Certainly, if his standard of honesty and integrity were followed by all members of the House, this House would be a better place.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Massimo Pacetti (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer defers to Elections Canada and pivots to jobs instead of addressing the specific spending allegations.
Elections Canada will look into these matters, as it properly should.
- misdirected41st General ElectionGerry Byrne (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks Liberals for calling the election and pivots to jobs instead of committing to a fair fight or dropping delays.
It was almost like a group of turkeys voting for an early Christmas.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Ms. Michelle Rempel (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer discusses scientific publications rather than addressing the accusation about environmental groups.
Our government is committed to ensuring that we have great research and that we support research across this country, including within the environment portfolio.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Ms. Michelle Rempel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP's policies on energy instead of addressing the question about firing scientists.
If the NDP had its way, it would issue pink slips to the hundreds of thousands of people who are employed in our energy sector.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Anne Minh-Thu Quach (NDP) asked Ms. Michelle Rempel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes the bill's benefits without addressing the call to split it.
We should be supporting long-term growth by providing streamlined regulations while supporting environmental protection.
- answeredFisheries and OceansMr. Fin Donnelly (NDP) asked Mr. Randy Kamp (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly refutes the claims and explains the changes to the Fisheries Act.
The changes to the Fisheries Act that are contained in Bill C-38 would allow Fisheries and Oceans Canada to focus more effectively in a practical way on the protection of commercial, aboriginal and recreational fisheries.
- deflectedFisheries and OceansMr. Philip Toone (NDP) asked Mr. Randy Kamp (Conservative). loaded question.The answer discusses general fisheries rules and consultations without addressing fleet separation.
The minister, in his consultations earlier in the year, was out talking to fishermen about those policies and others, asking if they had any suggestions about how they could perhaps be changed in a way that would allow them greater flexibility to ensure greater prosperity.
- misdirectedElection SpendingMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner's donations instead of addressing the election spending investigation.
However, the member opposite donated $3,700 to Québec solidaire, a party that says in its statement of principle that it wants a sovereign Quebec.
- misdirectedElection SpendingMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner's donations to a separatist party instead of addressing the spending investigation.
That member donated to the hardest line separatist party in the country while sitting in the federal Parliament of Canada proposing himself as a future cabinet minister.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Dan Harris (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP's donations and beliefs instead of addressing the voter interference accusations.
Can that member actually stand in the House and confirm whether all members of the NDP caucus believe in a united Canada?
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Dan Harris (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Question accuses of crimes and demands humility; answer attacks opposition instead of addressing Conservative actions.
On that side of the House that party has a member who donated to Québec solidaire while he was sitting in the federal House proposing himself as a future cabinet minister in this country.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Ms. Michelle Rempel (Conservative). loaded question.Question challenges PM's statement on spending and dictatorship remark; answer shifts to unrelated leadership and budget talking points.
We are a leader in job growth and we are a leader in ensuring security in our financial system.
- partly answeredNational DefenceJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Question asks specifically for lobbyist and manufacturer names; answer states involvement was not by lobbyists and references process but provides no names.
The decision in 2010 to purchase the F-35 was based on the advice of officials within the Department of National Defence, the Department of Public Works and members of the Canadian Forces, and, in fact, not lobbyists at all.
- deflectedCopyright ActGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Mr. Mike Lake (Conservative). loaded question.Question claims bill aids pirates and asks why; answer praises consultation process without addressing the piracy allegation.
As we heard during the committee process, witness after witness commended the government for finally moving ahead on something that was long overdue.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMs. Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Question demands consultation on EI changes; answer explains labor shortage rationale without confirming any consultation occurred.
There is a labour shortage across Canada.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMs. Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Question accuses ministers of ignoring Canadians on EI; answer reiterates labor shortage and system changes without addressing consultation.
I have travelled across the country to listen to people.
- answeredEmploymentMs. Rathika Sitsabaiesan (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Question highlights youth job losses and program cuts; answer details increased funding for youth employment programs.
our government increased funding to the Canada summer jobs program, helping over 30,000 students get the experience they need for the job market as well as funding to help their way through school.
- misdirectedEmployment InsuranceMs. Rathika Sitsabaiesan (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Question asks to halt EI changes affecting Toronto workers; answer attacks the member's understanding rather than addressing the policy request.
what we want to put the brakes on is the member's reckless misunderstanding of the truth.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer discusses condolences and funding but sidesteps the accusation of a communications strategy to hide facts by redirecting to an ongoing process.
Being a lawyer, the member would and should know that this process is ongoing and we should wait for the result.
- misdirectedNational DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the member for allegedly putting false information forward rather than addressing the transparency concerns raised.
The member is the one who is compromising the truth by repeatedly putting false information forward.
- answeredForeign AffairsMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly rejects the premise of abandoning the UN and details ongoing support for specific UN programs.
From time to time, we have concerns about actions of certain UN agencies, but by and large we have a very good relationship with the UN.
- partly answeredForeign AffairsMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses the peacekeeping policy claim by noting continuity with prior governments but shifts to general defense of UN engagement.
there certainly has not been any change in that policy between our government and the previous government.
- partly answeredInternational TradeWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes recent steps on beef market access but does not address the broader pork and beef market losses or timeline for full parity.
our government has been hard at work, opening new doors for Canadian farmers and Canadian manufacturers.
- misdirectedInternational TradeWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). loaded question.The answer rejects the premise and attacks the opposition's record on supply management instead of addressing the advisory committee composition.
I reject the premise of the member's statement.
- deflectedThe Public ServiceMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Mr. Andrew Saxton (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights overall plan goals and savings percentages but avoids discussing management of cuts or resulting service impacts.
Seventy per cent of the savings identified are operational efficiencies.
- deflectedThe Public ServiceMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Mr. Andrew Saxton (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to criticizing union-negotiated rules and promoting the economic plan rather than addressing chaos or transparency in cuts.
we welcome this acknowledgement by union bosses that the current system as negotiated by unions is too rigid and inflexible.
- misdirectedCanadian Broadcasting CorporationMs. Lise St-Denis (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.The question assumes intent to destroy institutions and the answer pivots to past Liberal cuts and budget balancing instead of addressing CBC funding.
it is kind of odd that question would come from that member and that party because when the Liberals were in government, they actually cut the CBC by $400 million without telling it in advance what was happening
- misdirectedArchives CanadaMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.The question assumes privatization motive and the answer shifts to NDP priorities on Europe and a convicted terrorist rather than addressing Archives Canada digitization.
each and every day we are learning more and more about the priorities of the NDP.
- deflectedPersons with DisabilitiesMs. Manon Perreault (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The question asks about the overdue implementation report and the answer avoids it by listing measures and attacking NDP voting record.
If the NDP truly wants to support persons with disabilities, why does it always vote against initiatives to help them?
- misdirectedFinancial InstitutionsMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.The question challenges federal overreach on banking jurisdiction and the answer pivots to unrelated successes like GST harmonization and a bridge project.
I am pleased to remind the hon. member that, in the past year, our government settled a matter with the Government of Quebec that has been dragging on for over 15 years: the harmonization of the GST and QST.
- deflectedFinancial InstitutionsMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The question follows up on banking jurisdiction and consumer protection and the answer defends the banking system and Supreme Court respect without addressing Quebec's specific concerns.
Of course we will respect the provinces.