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Tuesday, April 24, 2012 · sitting No. 109

Commons advances citizen arrest bill as F-35 costs draw fire

The House spent the largest share of the sitting on government orders for Bill C-26, the citizen's arrest and self-defence act. Parliamentary secretary Robert Goguen told the House the justice committee had held six sessions and heard more than 15 witnesses. NDP MP Françoise Boivin asked whether the amended wording resolved concerns raised by the Canadian Bar Association and the Barreau du Québec over the balance of objective and subjective criteria.

In question period, NDP leader Thomas Mulcair pressed Prime Minister Stephen Harper on statements by the minister of national defence that no money had been spent on the F-35. Harper replied that the minister had referred only to acquisition costs and that development spending formed part of an international consortium. Finance minister Diane Finley told NDP MP Peggy Nash that raising the age of eligibility for old age security to 67 was required for long-term sustainability of the program.

Decided that day

  • Ways and Means motion on budget provisions passed
  • Bill S-8 advanced at second reading
  • Bill C-37 introduced

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Who held the floor · 2012-04-24

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 33%, opposition 67% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:15Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 10 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
59Budget motion clears amid order callsThe House passed one budget-related motion and moved two bills forward while devoting most time to the Citizen's Arrest and Self-defence Act. Twelve points of order and mostly deflected answers in question period slowed the sitting.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Ethics

Liberal MP Bob Rae asked international cooperation minister Bev Oda to justify $1,000-a-day limousine charges and a five-star hotel stay while CIDA staff faced workforce reductions. Oda said the expenses were unacceptable and that she had repaid the hotel-related costs.

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Rail Transportation

NDP MP Olivia Chow said successive Liberal and Conservative governments had cut rail service and asked transport minister Denis Lebel whether any part of VIA Rail would be sold. Lebel replied that the government had invested $923 million in the Windsor-Quebec City corridor and had no plans to sell assets.

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Fisheries and Oceans

NDP MP Fin Donnelly accused fisheries minister Keith Ashfield of gutting habitat protection to help industry. Ashfield said current policy treated drainage ditches the same as major projects and that new rules would focus on real threats such as aquatic invasive species.

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Royal Canadian Mounted Police

NDP MP Niki Ashton asked public safety minister Vic Toews what immediate steps would follow RCMP commissioner Paulson's comments on abuse of women officers. Toews said the matter had been referred to the Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer claims uncertainty about the question and offers only a general principle instead of addressing the specific allegation.I am not sure what this question is about but, obviously, I expect the ministers to always tell the truth.
  2. partly answered
    National DefenceMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer clarifies the minister's intended meaning regarding acquisition costs but does not address whether the statement misled Parliament.the Minister of National Defence was referring to acquisition costs for the airplane.
  3. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates the prior clarification on acquisition costs and denies wrongdoing without addressing the new claim about pilot training costs or guidelines.the minister was referring, of course, and the record is very clear on this, to acquisition costs.
  4. deflected
    PensionsMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer reframes the question around long-term sustainability and avoids providing any specific savings figure.This is not about the how much money will be saved, but about long-term sustainability in order to ensure that the system will be there when future generations need it.
  5. deflected
    PensionsMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses international comparisons and demographic trends but again supplies no savings estimate or evidence for the claim.we are joining leading countries around the world like England, Australia, the United States and others in recognizing that the population is aging
  6. partly answered
    National DefenceBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the Auditor General's request to re-examine costs and states the government will comply, but does not address the claim of prior misleading statements.the Auditor General asked the government to re-examine the numbers concerning the F-35 and the government is committed to doing just that.
  7. partly answered
    National DefenceBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer accepts the Auditor General's findings on incomplete information and commits to re-examination, yet does not admit to misleading Parliament.the Auditor General questioned the reliability and the completeness of information that the department had provided on these costs.
  8. answered
    EthicsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Bev Oda (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly concedes the expenses were unacceptable, states repayment has occurred, and offers an apology.the expenses are unacceptable, should never have been charged to taxpayers.
  9. deflected
    EthicsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses hotel repayment but pivots to general talking points instead of addressing the limo or Junos charges.Our government has always believed that ministers should conduct their affairs with the greatest of respect for taxpayers.
  10. misdirected
    Elections CanadaMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Dean Del Mastro (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the questioner and dismisses allegations rather than addressing the request for information on scripts or the limo repayment.I guess what the Chief Electoral Officer is saying is that he is troubled every time this member stands to speak because all of his sweeping allegations have no facts to support them.
  11. deflected
    EthicsMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats the hotel repayment claim and pivots to Liberal comparisons without addressing limo use or disclosure rules.Our government expects ministers to respect taxpayers' money, and that is reflected in the fact that our costs for hospitality and travel are significantly below those of our Liberal predecessors.
  12. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the opposition's past statements and the poll rather than addressing the request for truth on election fraud allegations.The hon. member should acknowledge that his party has already had to apologize for making false allegations in this regard.
  13. deflected
    EthicsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer claims questions were already answered and notes a Liberal complaint without addressing the multiple investigations or accountability demand.the minister has already answered those questions, and there is nothing new in this story.
  14. deflected
    EthicsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats that nothing is new and pivots to the Liberal letter without addressing the conflict of interest or calls to remove the minister.There is absolutely nothing new in this story.
  15. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to job creation statistics instead of addressing the ethics inquiries or demand to remove the minister.In fact, in Canada, with his leadership and that of the Prime Minister , we have seen close to 700,000 net new jobs since the economic downturn.
  16. answered
    Royal Canadian Mounted PoliceMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states the referral to the Commission for Public Complaints and explains the reason for no further comment.That is why, in consultation with the commissioner, I have referred this matter to the Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP.
  17. partly answered
    Royal Canadian Mounted PoliceMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer describes prior steps taken but does not commit to the immediate action or resources requested.We asked the Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP to investigate allegations of systemic failure to deal appropriately with sexual harassment within the force.
  18. misdirected
    EthicsMark Eyking (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberals' past travel instead of addressing the minister's spending or firing question.It is interesting that I am getting a question like this from the Liberals.
  19. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Mr. Dean Del Mastro (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberals for past actions and allegations rather than addressing the call for a royal commission.We also know they have made these phony allegations, sweeping allegations with no evidence to support it.
  20. answered
    Search and RescueStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly rebuts the premise and states that bilingual capacity will be ensured before any transfer.We in fact have delayed the transfer of the Quebec office to Trenton to such time as we have the bilingual capacity to ensure the safety of mariners.
  21. deflected
    Rail TransportationMs. Olivia Chow (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer disputes the premise and lists unrelated investments instead of explaining the budget cuts to VIA Rail.We have invested $72 million in additional funding over five years, with another $15 million per year to ensure rail transportation safety in Canada.
  22. deflected
    Rail TransportationMs. Olivia Chow (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer denies cuts and cites past investment without addressing the question about selling VIA Rail.We invested $923 million in VIA Rail in 2009 through the economic action plan.
  23. misdirected
    Public SafetyMr. Brian Masse (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer criticizes the NDP's voting record instead of addressing the impact of the CBSA cuts.I find it surprising that the member would be criticizing the decisions of the government when his party voted against increases to the CBSA.
  24. misdirected
    Public SafetyMr. Brian Masse (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the member's drug-policy votes rather than justifying the cuts or the retreat spending.It strikes me as somewhat unusual that the member is concerned about drugs coming into our country when he consistently votes in favour of laws that would not increase the drug penalties against those individuals.
  25. partly answered
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). loaded question.The answer corrects the premise and explains communications policy but does not address the specific claim of sending overseers.Our scientists are free to address questions regarding science.
  26. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Anne Minh-Thu Quach (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). loaded question.The answer states the premise is false and pivots to unrelated government achievements without addressing intimidation or censorship.the premise of that question is false.
  27. partly answered
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Fin Donnelly (NDP) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). loaded question.The answer rejects the premise and explains the policy change but does not address muzzling or the oil spill centre closure.The current fisheries policy goes well beyond what is necessary to protect fish and fish habitat.
  28. partly answered
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Philip Toone (NDP) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the policy change with examples but does not address the claim of putting the fishery at risk for big business.Certainly the changes I announced today will enhance habitat protection.
  29. deflected
    Agriculture and Agri-FoodMr. Frank Valeriote (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the question as alarming and pivots to past voting records instead of confirming inspection changes.
  30. answered
    Agriculture and Agri-FoodMs. Judy Foote (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the washing stations by stating inspections continue and alternatives will be found.The CFIA will continue to inspect for soil contamination and will work with the provinces and the private sector to find an alternative vehicle cleaning service.
  31. deflected
    Air CanadaMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the question by citing ongoing court proceedings and refuses further comment.This case is currently before the courts, so we will refrain from commenting any further.
  32. misdirected
    Air CanadaMs. Laurin Liu (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the question's preface as wrong and pivots to defending EI benefits instead of addressing the privatization act enforcement.once again, in the preface to her question, the member made statements that are all wrong.
  33. partly answered
    Public SafetyMr. Ted Hsu (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states the net savings figure but omits any cost of holding inmates elsewhere.I am advised by the department that the true net savings is $120 million a year.
  34. deflected
    Language of Work in QuebecMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.The response praises existing law and notes a committee without addressing mandate, meetings or report timing.the Minister of Industry has announced that there is going to be a committee set up to study the matter, and we look forward to hearing about it.
  35. partly answered
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the appeal process but then attacks the member for politicizing a case.I regret that the member seeks to politicize a tragic case of a woman.
  36. answered
    Foreign AffairsMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The question embeds an unsupported premise about handing keys to China; the answer directly explains the democratic-election criterion.Cuba does not qualify because the leader is not democratically elected, and China does not qualify because it is not in the Americas.