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Monday, April 23, 2012 · sitting No. 108
Commons debates immigration overhaul as bill C-31 advances
Government orders on Bill C-31, the Protecting Canada's Immigration System Act, consumed 38 per cent of the sitting as members debated reforms to the refugee determination process. Conservative MP Bob Zimmer said the measures would deliver a faster and fairer system while increasing annual refugee resettlement to 14,500 people. NDP MP Craig Scott, in his maiden speech, criticized the bill's provisions on safe-country designations and the removal of an advisory panel for the minister.
Liberal MP Kirsty Duncan and NDP MP Jinny Jogindera Sims raised concerns over detention of children and the absence of safeguards for vulnerable claimants. Scott replied that the legislation creates difficult choices for parents and conflicts with international standards on the age of majority.
Decided that day
- C-31 read a second time and sent to committee
- Opposition amendment defeated
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Who held the floor · 2012-04-23
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National Defence
Liberal MP Ralph Goodale said the Auditor General's report showed the government kept two sets of books on F-35 costs and asked for unrestricted committee hearings. Conservative MP John Baird said Canada has signed no contract and will follow seven steps before any purchase.
Read the exchangeThe Environment
NDP MP Thomas Mulcair asked why the government is undermining independent environmental assessments. Conservative MP John Baird replied that the government wants one assessment per project and asked why Mulcair would not trust Quebec's process.
Read the exchangeCanada Post Corporation Act
Conservative MP Merv Tweed moved second reading of Bill C-321 to give libraries reduced postal rates for materials. NDP MP Jamie Nicholls and Liberal MP Denis Coderre both pledged support for the measure.
Read the exchangePublic Safety
NDP MP Randall Garrison said the government has no plan for moving inmates after announcing closures of two prisons and a treatment centre. Conservative MP Vic Toews said the closures save money and that the NDP wants prisoners released onto the street.
Read the exchangeSeniors
NDP MP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe pressed the government to disclose savings from raising the old age security eligibility age. Conservative MP Diane Finley said no current seniors will be affected because changes begin in 2023.
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- deflectedGovernment ServicesMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates economic priorities and job numbers without addressing the specific service cuts or corporate tax rationale.
We realize that we have to return to balanced budgets so that public services can remain affordable for Canadians.
- misdirectedGovernment ServicesMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends health transfers but then attacks the questioner's past record instead of addressing environmental risks or subsidies.
maybe the member could stand in his place and explain to Canadians why, when he was minister of the environment in Quebec, he cut his budget by $179 million.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats health transfer figures then pivots to attacking the questioner's stance on provincial assessments rather than addressing environmental assessment changes.
I would like the member opposite to stand and say why he will not trust the Government of Quebec to do a proper environmental assessment.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges streamlining and deficit reduction but does not address the specific loss of scientific roles or the oil-spill centre.
We will do this by streamlining our operations and by eliminating or reducing low-performing programs that do not contribute directly to the department's mandate.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains coordination practice but avoids the premise of gag orders or babysitters by reframing as standard procedure.
There is nothing new in the email that was sent to attendees.
- deflectedNational DefenceRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer rejects the premise and states committees control their process but does not guarantee open hearings or unrestricted witnesses.
Committees are the masters of their own domain.
- misdirectedNational DefenceRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the prior Liberal submarine purchase instead of detailing what the F-35 budget will actually deliver.
I hope we will get a much better acquisition than when the Liberal Party bought used submarines.
- misdirectedNational DefenceMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer invokes the Liberal 'decade of darkness' and refuses to address current procurement failures across multiple programs.
it is a little rich for the Liberal Party to talk about the acquisition of equipment for the men and women in uniform.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Mr. Chris Alexander (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates the procurement plan without addressing the accusation of hiding costs two years ago.
Canada has not signed any contract. It has not spent any money on acquiring a replacement aircraft for the CF-18s.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Mr. Chris Alexander (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists procedural steps but ignores the specific quotes and Auditor General findings on misleading costs.
There will be an independent review of the costs. The funding envelope is frozen.
- partly answeredNational DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the close combat vehicle process but does not speak to F-35 transparency or ministerial responsibility.
when it comes to the close combat vehicle procurement, this procurement is going forward exactly as it should.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the use of monitors with a pun but does not address the rigging allegations directly.
They are monitors, not monsters.
- misdirectedPublic SafetyMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP's position on prisoners instead of providing documents or plans for the prison closures.
what irony coming from the NDP that wants to release all these prisoners right onto the street.
- misdirectedPublic SafetyMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the opposition's consistency rather than explaining the rationale or documents behind the Leclerc prison closure.
In fact, they cannot even get their stories straight.
- misdirectedElections CanadaMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Dean Del Mastro (Conservative). loaded question.The answer counters with an attack on NDP cooperation instead of addressing the database alterations or robocall investigation.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to an unrelated point about an NDP member rather than addressing the minister's expense issues.
I understand that NDP member will now sit as an independent member because he is tired of having his votes suppressed by his leadership.
- answeredEthicsMs. Ève Péclet (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly confirms reimbursement of the hotel costs raised in the question.
The minister reimbursed the cost of changing hotels.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Scott Andrews (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to attacking Liberal ministers' past expenses rather than addressing the specific allegations.
anybody who has looked at the expense disclosures of Liberal ministers when they were in government would know what swanky living was.
- deflectedEthicsMs. Lise St-Denis (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to general budget reductions and Liberal criticism instead of confirming the hotel name or appropriateness.
over the last three years, ministers' offices' budgets have been reduced by 18% by this government.
- misdirectedElections CanadaWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Mr. Dean Del Mastro (Conservative). loaded question.The answer counters with Liberal scandals and attacks the opposition instead of addressing the call for a royal commission.
I am sure that Canadians would always entertain receiving a cheque from the Liberal Party for the missing $43 million from the sponsorship scandal that the member forgot to mention.
- answeredSearch and RescueMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states that bilingual services will continue at the same level after consolidation.
The Coast Guard will continue to provide the same level of bilingual services to Canadians following the consolidation.
- answeredSearch and RescueMs. Annick Papillon (NDP) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the phased-in approach to maintain bilingual capacity.
The phased-in approach will take approximately a year for the Quebec sub-centre, and we will have the capacity in place to address any safety issues.
- partly answeredAgriculture and Agri-FoodMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses the food safety impact but ignores the request for public hearings.
none of the efficiencies we have identified will in any way affect the top-quality food that Canadians enjoy every day or the safe food that our inspectors have across their desks every day.
- misdirectedAgriculture and Agri-FoodMs. Ruth Ellen Brosseau (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the opposition's voting record instead of addressing the specific cuts to rural and co-operative services.
We have reinvested hundreds of millions of dollars in food safety.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends past benefit extensions instead of addressing expenditure on the EI board.
We gave all claimants an extra five weeks' worth of benefits and we invested significantly in training programs to help people get back to work.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMrs. Anne-Marie Day (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to business competitiveness and NDP criticism rather than the board's cost versus services.
It would be nice if the NDP for once would support us in our effort to help Canadian families.
- partly answeredSeniorsMs. Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses timing and sustainability but avoids any savings figure or transparency on the change.
Changes to OAS are all about the long-term sustainability of that particular program.
- deflectedSeniorsMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains longevity trends and timing but never supplies the requested savings amount.
We need to face the fact that Canadians are living longer.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Kirsty Duncan (Liberal) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists review goals without explaining why cabinet overrides the NEB or science.
We want to make the review process more predictable and timely.
- misdirectedHealthCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the question as unacceptable before listing unrelated spending items.
as an aboriginal person I take that type of line of questioning to be unacceptable.
- deflectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer blames prior Liberal backlogs instead of addressing deletion of 300,000 files.
On this matter, we simply have to move beyond the legacy backlogs that the Liberal government left.
- deflectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMrs. Sadia Groguhé (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends systemic reform without justifying the retroactive deletion of applications.
It was not in the interests of Canada or of potential immigrants to wait for seven or eight years because of backlogs or processing times.
- deflectedYouthMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids defending the Katimavik cut by attacking the prior Liberal record and listing other programs instead.
We are going to continue supporting youth programs that are responsible, effective and get results. Katimavik is not one of them.
- deflectedGovernment AppointmentsMs. Olivia Chow (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends one appointee's qualifications while ignoring the broader patronage accusation across multiple appointments.
the individual in question is of course a distinguished aboriginal leader who also happens to be very qualified for the post.
- deflectedEconomic DevelopmentMr. John Rafferty (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes FedNor generally without addressing the specific program cuts or their timing in northern Ontario.
We have an excellent program through FedNor which focuses on job creation activities, new businesses, new activities throughout northern Ontario
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Jean-François Fortin (Bloc) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer reports emission reductions and Copenhagen progress while ignoring the marches and Kyoto protocol demand.
We are now well past that and moving toward fulfillment of our goals.