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Wednesday, September 28, 2011 · sitting No. 22

House debates crime bill amid economy and G8 clashes in question period

The House devoted the largest share of its sitting to debate of the Safe Streets and Communities Act in government orders. The bill, which sets mandatory minimum sentences for several offences including drug trafficking and sexual exploitation of children, remained before the House at adjournment.

In question period, NDP Leader Nycole Turmel asked Prime Minister Stephen Harper what was discussed at his meeting with the finance minister and Bank of Canada governor and whether an action plan existed for the economic crisis. Harper replied that the government already has an economic action plan and pointed to more than 600,000 jobs created since the last election. Liberal Leader Bob Rae asked Harper whether he now recognized the need for stimulus measures given global conditions, citing the Prime Minister's own past remarks against balancing budgets at all costs.

Decided that day

  • C-10 passed second reading and referred to committee
  • Opposition amendment defeated

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

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Who held the floor · 2011-09-28

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 49%, opposition 51% of the words spokenQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 14:0515:0016:0017:0018:00Last speech 19:05Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 5 h 0 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
64Crime bill moves while answers dodgeThe House spent most of its time on the Safe Streets and Communities Act and advanced C-10 to committee after defeating an opposition amendment. Question Period produced few direct answers and several procedural interruptions occurred.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

G8 Summit

NDP MP Charlie Angus asked Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird why the minister personally intervened to move the Gravenhurst arena project out of the Muskoka fund. Baird replied that none of the 32 projects he approved involved an arena in Gravenhurst.

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Poverty

NDP Leader Nycole Turmel cited a National Council of Welfare report showing poverty costs Canada more than $24 billion a year and asked why the government had no strategy to end it. Harper said the best approach is economic growth and job creation.

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Aboriginal Affairs

NDP MP Linda Duncan asked Aboriginal Affairs Minister John Duncan to end the 2 per cent cap on first nations education funding. Duncan said the government is working with partners through an independent national panel whose recommendations are due in December or January.

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Search and rescue

NDP MP Jack Harris asked National Defence Minister Peter MacKay why he used a search and rescue helicopter for a personal trip to a fishing lodge. MacKay said he paid for the trip himself and left early to return to work.

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Royal Canadian Mounted Police

NDP MP Jasbir Sandhu asked Public Safety Minister Vic Toews whether the government would pull RCMP services from British Columbia if the province rejected a new contract. Toews said it was up to the provinces to decide after four years of negotiations.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    The EconomyMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates the existing plan and job numbers without addressing the meeting discussion or a crisis-specific plan.as I have said repeatedly, we have an economic action plan.
  2. deflected
    The EconomyMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question as nonsensical then pivots to contrasting deficit positions without engaging the cited criticisms.this question does not make sense.
  3. partly answered
    PovertyMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer outlines the government's growth-based approach to poverty but does not address implementing a dedicated end-poverty strategy.how we tackle poverty first and foremost is by ensuring the economy is growing, creating jobs, making investments in such things as housing and education
  4. misdirected
    G8 SummitMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts focus to denying arena involvement rather than explaining the minister's intervention or the police investigation.of the 32 projects I approved under this initiative, not one involved an arena in Gravenhurst.
  5. misdirected
    G8 SummitMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer again denies arena facts and accuses the asker of inventing facts instead of addressing accountability or the minister's actions.The member opposite has the right to his own opinion, but he certainly does not have the right to create his own facts.
  6. partly answered
    The EconomyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the current deficit path and contrasts it with the asker's record but does not directly address changing course amid recession risks.the government continues to run a significant deficit, as is appropriate at these times, but we are taking steps to ensure the budget will balance as the economy grows.
  7. misdirected
    The EconomyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the asker's spending record and Ontario past instead of addressing the payroll tax increase or spending restraint.everybody in this country has the right to lecture the hon. member about how he managed the Ontario economy.
  8. deflected
    President of the Treasury BoardBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims prior responses and Auditor General acceptance without providing new information or explaining refusal to answer in the House.the government has already responded to all of these questions here in the House of Commons.
  9. partly answered
    The EconomyMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Answer counters the numbers claim and mentions a hiring credit but ignores the twisting accusation.the figure is very clear. The figure is 600,000 net new jobs.
  10. partly answered
    The EconomyMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats job numbers and forecasts but does not address the call for real action beyond spin.There are 600,000 net new jobs, 80% of them full-time jobs in Canada, the best job creation record in the G7.
  11. deflected
    The EconomyMr. Andrew Cash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Answer refuses to engage the Ontario comparison and pivots to national job totals.I will not get involved in provincial politics.
  12. deflected
    The EconomyMr. Andrew Cash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to fiscal policy and past Liberal cuts instead of addressing manufacturing job losses or a jobs plan.we are following an expansionary economic policy.
  13. answered
    Service CanadaMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly denies office closures and explains the modernization goal.there will be no Service Canada offices closing and no impact on in-person services offered.
  14. deflected
    G8 SummitMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer accepts the Auditor General report but pivots to economic priorities instead of addressing missing information.What Canadians expect their members of Parliament to be doing is to be focusing on their priorities: the creation of jobs, economic growth, hope and opportunity.
  15. misdirected
    G8 SummitMr. Brian Masse (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the NDP's trade stance rather than explaining the diversion of border funds.What we need is for New Democrats to stand in their place and say that they support free trade, that they support free trade with the United States, and that they support NAFTA.
  16. misdirected
    G8 SummitMr. Jean Rousseau (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the NDP voting record instead of addressing the G8 fund misuse.Shame on the member. Shame on the New Democratic Party.
  17. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked John Duncan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer promotes the national panel instead of addressing the 2% funding cap.It is doing good work across the country. It is totally independent.
  18. misdirected
    President of the Treasury BoardMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to listing projects and Auditor General comments rather than explaining the spending.Infrastructure Canada approved 32 projects to support the G8 infrastructure under the three categories provided.
  19. partly answered
    Minister of National DefenceGerry Byrne (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses the personal time claim but ignores the contradiction about business dealings.as I said a number of times, I was on personal time in Gander, Newfoundland, with some friends on a trip I paid for myself.
  20. deflected
    Minister of National DefenceMr. Scott Andrews (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer notes payment but pivots to challenging the Liberals for evidence outside the House.If anyone in the Liberal Party actually has any evidence that the minister or anyone else acted improperly, he or she can say so outside the House.
  21. deflected
    JusticeMr. Joe Comartin (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer redirects to victim costs and attacks the NDP instead of disclosing bill costs.I hope that he could just spend a bit of time worrying about the cost to victims in this country, because this is who the bill targets.
  22. deflected
    JusticeMr. Joe Comartin (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer disputes the cost figures and attacks the NDP rather than providing cost details.I would ask the member to table all those documents that he has.
  23. misdirected
    JusticeMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer redefines the bill as targeting drug dealers and child exploitation instead of addressing hate speech repeal.The bill before Parliament targets drug dealers, the people who traffic in narcotics, the people who bring drugs into this country and the people who sexually exploit children.
  24. deflected
    JusticeMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to victim consultations and attacks opposition parties instead of proving commitment to hate speech laws.What I will do for the hon. member, because she should hear from those victims' groups as well, is ask those groups that when they come to Ottawa again to please spend a bit of time with the NDP and the Liberals
  25. answered
    Search and rescueMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly corrects the false premise that SAR resources were used.the member has it wrong again.
  26. deflected
    Search and rescueMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores SAR issues and attacks the NDP record instead.the record of the New Democratic Party is a train wreck on the economy and heretics on military procurements.
  27. partly answered
    Search and rescueMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses helicopter parts but not the misuse allegation or closures.the Department of National Defence has purchased a large number of spares from the United States
  28. misdirected
    Search and rescueMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to Coast Guard consolidation and ignores the minister's alleged misuse.the consolidation of the sub-centres into the existing Joint Rescue Coordination Centres will have no negative impacts
  29. deflected
    Government FundingHedy Fry (Liberal) asked Bev Oda (Conservative). substantive question.Answer promotes government maternal health record without addressing IPPF funding threats.Canada focused its Muskoka initiative on improving the health of mothers and children
  30. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked John Duncan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer pivots to fiscal prudence and a Quebec meeting without committing to equal funding.the government has a responsibility to treat taxpayer money prudently.
  31. answered
    Royal Canadian Mounted PoliceMr. Jasbir Sandhu (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly states it is up to provinces to accept the contract.it is now up to the provinces to decide whether to come on board.
  32. answered
    Royal Canadian Mounted PoliceMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states provinces decide and the federal government does not force acceptance.It is up to the provinces to make that decision.
  33. deflected
    VeteransMr. Sean Casey (Liberal) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer describes the funeral program without addressing the funding disparity or gazebo claim.Assistance for funerals and burials is offered to veterans who have suffered injuries related to their service, regardless of their rank or the medals they have received.
  34. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Diane Ablonczy (Conservative). substantive question.The answer refuses to address the consular delay by citing leaks policy and non-Canadian origin.I have to inform the hon. member that we do not comment on the contents of leaks.
  35. deflected
    Canadian Air and Space MuseumMr. Mike Sullivan (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The answer states it was a business decision but does not address reversing the eviction or veterans' requests.This was a business decision made by Downsview.
  36. misdirected
    JusticeMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to attacking the Bloc and Quebec's electoral choice instead of addressing the justice bill concerns.Canadians have not rejected that, but I know Quebec rejected the Bloc.
  37. misdirected
    Points of OrderMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer mocks the opposition's research use rather than engaging with the point of order or documents.We encourage the opposition to use it for that and not simply to get a subscription to the Toronto Star .