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Tuesday, September 27, 2011 · sitting No. 21

House allots two more days to debate crime bill at second reading

Government House leader Peter Van Loan moved a motion to allot no more than two further sitting days to second reading of Bill C-10, the Safe Streets and Communities Act. NDP House leader Thomas Mulcair said the motion showed contempt for Parliament and asked whether the government would also limit debate in committee. Justice minister Rob Nicholson replied that 295 witnesses had already been heard over 58 committee days and 123 hours.

Liberal interim leader Bob Rae said the combined measures in the bill would have a dramatic effect on the administration of justice and asked whether the minister understood that impact. Nicholson said transfers to the provinces had increased by more than $2.4 billion and that the bill would crack down on violent crime.

Decided that day

  • Motion relating to Bill C-10 passed
  • Bills S-2 and C-288 introduced

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

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Who held the floor · 2011-09-27

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 49%, opposition 51% of the words spokenGovernment businessGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:50Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 45 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
54Crime bill advances, answers mostly dodgedThe House spent the bulk of its time on the Safe Streets and Communities Act, which moved forward after a recorded vote passed. Two bills were introduced while Question Period produced mostly deflected replies.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

The Economy

NDP leader Nycole Turmel asked why the government had no job-creation plan ahead of an expected slowdown. Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the government would reject NDP proposals to raise taxes and shut down key industries.

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G8 Summit

Liberal interim leader Bob Rae said Treasury Board president Tony Clement had spent border-infrastructure money on unauthorized projects in his riding and then hidden from accountability. Conservative House leader John Baird said the Auditor General had examined all spending and found every dollar accounted for.

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Asbestos Industry

NDP MP Pat Martin asked why the government continued to export asbestos rather than fund economic diversification for the region. International Trade minister Christian Paradis said recent studies confirmed chrysotile could be used safely in a controlled environment.

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Infrastructure

NDP MP Olivia Chow said the government had rejected a motion to replace the Champlain Bridge while spending freely in Muskoka. Transport minister Denis Lebel said the government was investing $380 million to keep the existing bridge safe.

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The Economy

NDP MP Peggy Nash said there were 110,000 fewer jobs for young people than before the recession. Finance minister Jim Flaherty pointed to the hiring credit for small business in the economic action plan.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Government MinistersMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates enforcement of rules without addressing consequences for ministers who fail to follow the guide.this government has established rules and these rules are enforced.
  2. deflected
    The EconomyMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes existing plan success and attacks NDP ideas instead of addressing the request for a job plan.this government is continuing with a plan that has been a big success.
  3. deflected
    The EconomyMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights job creation record and rejects opposition proposals rather than committing to a new job creation plan.the government's plans are oriented toward job creation, which is why Canada has one of the best job creation records in the entire industrialized world.
  4. partly answered
    The EconomyMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer references the hiring credit in the economic action plan as the plan for youth jobs but does not detail further measures.in the second phase of Canada's economic action plan there is a hiring credit for the 525,000 small businesses in Canada.
  5. deflected
    The EconomyMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends job numbers and attacks NDP tax proposals instead of outlining a plan for good jobs.We have created about 600,000 net new jobs in the Canadian economy in past couple of years, of which 80% are full-time jobs for Canadians.
  6. deflected
    The EconomyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer praises the government's fiscal approach and rejects the premise without engaging the specific economist's criticism.Canada's economic action plan and Canada's fiscal approach have been praised by observers around the world.
  7. deflected
    The EconomyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats support for the expansionary approach and dismisses the call for a different response.the vast majority of analysts who have examined our plan support our approach.
  8. misdirected
    G8 SummitBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the Liberal Party's electoral performance instead of addressing the accountability issue raised about the minister.I would think that the Liberal Party, having run an entire campaign, the worst in its history, on this issue and having been drubbed so badly, would decide that now is probably not the time to keep talking about politics in this way.
  9. misdirected
    G8 SummitMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner as muckraking and pivots to jobs instead of addressing the specific intervention with the mayor.It is this kind of muckraking that Canadians rejected in the last election campaign.
  10. deflected
    G8 SummitMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer notes the Auditor General's comments but avoids addressing the 110-day delay or ministerial responsibility.the Auditor General has looked at this issue.
  11. deflected
    G8 SummitMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer disputes facts about the pool and rink but does not address the three-strikes claim or why the minister remains in cabinet.The member opposite has the right to his own opinion.
  12. misdirected
    G8 SummitMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question as muckraking and shifts to jobs without responding to the specific allegations of slush fund or election commitments.that kind of muckraking is exactly what Canadians rejected at the last election.
  13. partly answered
    Asbestos IndustryMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the policy of safe use but does not address the request to redirect funds to economic diversification.Canada has been arguing for the safe and controlled use of chrysotile at home and abroad
  14. partly answered
    Asbestos IndustryMr. François Lapointe (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats the safe-use position but ignores the call for a transition plan for the region.recent scientific studies clearly confirm that chrysotile can be used safely in a controlled environment.
  15. deflected
    InfrastructureMs. Olivia Chow (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer praises the government's municipal record but does not explain why the Champlain Bridge motion was rejected.municipalities have not in the past had a more committed partner than our Conservative government
  16. deflected
    InfrastructureMs. Olivia Chow (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer points to a future plan and past votes but avoids committing to immediate infrastructure protection for basic projects.I do not understand why members of the NDP are saying that today and yet they voted against it
  17. deflected
    InfrastructureMr. Jamie Nicholls (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses maintenance spending instead of the motion rejection or timeline for replacement.while my colleague talks about closing the Champlain Bridge, we are investing $380 million to ensure that it is safe and will continue to be operational for a long time.
  18. misdirected
    President of the Treasury BoardRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The response attacks the questioner's experience and refuses to engage with the allegations.I would have expected better from him and I will not dignify his question with a response.
  19. deflected
    President of the Treasury BoardJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the query as muckraking and pivots to unrelated government priorities.This type of muckraking was rejected by Canadians in the last election campaign.
  20. misdirected
    JusticeMr. Joe Comartin (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The response attacks the NDP's positions on other issues rather than addressing the crime bill debate.I find it interesting that the NDP always objects to spending money when it comes to fighting violent crime.
  21. deflected
    JusticeMr. Joe Comartin (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer rejects the fast-track proposal by reframing around drug dealers instead of debating costs or procedure.Now he is saying that we are to leave out the part that goes after drug dealers, the people who bring drugs into this country, the people who sell drugs around schools.
  22. misdirected
    JusticeMr. Jasbir Sandhu (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The response shifts focus to accusing the NDP of ignoring victims rather than providing cost information.It is the NDP on the cost to victims in this country.
  23. deflected
    JusticeMr. Jasbir Sandhu (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to victim protection and references tabled documents without stating the bill's cost.If members want detailed costs, look at the hundreds of pages that we tabled before the committee.
  24. partly answered
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). substantive question.The answer corrects the budget cut figure and states the environment remains a priority but does not define basic services.The Environmental Assessment Agency has not been cut by 48% and the environment remains a priority of this government even at times of fiscal restraint.
  25. deflected
    HealthMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Mr. Colin Carrie (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses general cancer funding but ignores the UV index and core program question.That is why our government is supporting cancer control and prevention efforts, working with provincial and territorial governments as well as stakeholders from across Canada to reduce the burden of cancer.
  26. misdirected
    Natural ResourcesMr. Claude Gravelle (NDP) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks NDP record and changes subject to moratorium instead of addressing Canadian jobs lost.The NDP's former environment critic called for a moratorium on oil sands development.
  27. partly answered
    Natural ResourcesMr. Claude Gravelle (NDP) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly counters job loss claim with numbers and explains refinery capacity issue.the fact is that oil sands development generates over 500,000 jobs and the Keystone project will generate over 140,000 jobs across Canada.
  28. misdirected
    Canada-U.S. RelationsWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Ed Fast (Conservative). substantive question.Answer pivots to attacking past Liberal record instead of addressing current U.S. protectionism failures.it was actually the Liberal Party that slept through 13 long years on the trade file.
  29. deflected
    Canada-U.S. RelationsMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Ed Fast (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates general trade stance and ends by attacking Liberals rather than explaining action on protectionism.Why will the Liberal Party not do so?
  30. deflected
    Research and DevelopmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). loaded question.Answer rejects premise outright and lists programs without addressing Canada's low international rankings.I reject the premise of that question.
  31. partly answered
    Research and DevelopmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges business R&D shortfall and points to upcoming panel review.It is true that businesses are not doing enough, which is exactly why, if the member were paying attention, we launched a panel review into the R and D sectors and our platform of programs.
  32. deflected
    Government GrantsJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). substantive question.Answer praises government disability programs broadly but avoids the specific grant misuse question.no government has done more for Canadians with disabilities than our Conservative government.
  33. deflected
    The EconomyMs. Rathika Sitsabaiesan (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Answer promotes government plan and attacks opposition voting record instead of addressing graduate employment.The NDP and the Liberals voted against $1 billion in federal funding to the provinces and territories for infrastructure in 2011-12.
  34. deflected
    International TradeMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). loaded question.Answer highlights gateway benefits without addressing human capacity investments or raw materials export claim.As the demand for Canadian exports to the Asia-Pacific markets continue to grow so do the opportunities for Canadian workers and companies.
  35. answered
    Natural Resources CanadaMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly corrects premise and explains transfer of ice cores to universities for continued research.There will be no destruction of the ice cores.