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Thursday, September 22, 2011 · sitting No. 18
Commons debates safe streets bill as NDP and Liberals press on costs
The House spent the largest share of its sitting on Government Orders debating the Safe Streets and Communities Act. New Democrat MP Don Davies said the bill contains no prevention measures and ignores addiction treatment needs while Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux questioned the lack of resources for community policing and after-school programs.
In Question Period the NDP pressed the government on economic management. NDP MP Nycole Turmel said cuts to public services risk a recession and asked when the Prime Minister would recognize the need for investment, while Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the government is making targeted investments and saving modest amounts of money.
Defence Minister Peter MacKay defended his use of a search and rescue helicopter during a personal visit in Gander, telling the House he shortened his stay to take part in a demonstration by 103 Squadron.
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Safe Streets and Communities Act
New Democrat MP Joe Comartin said the bill removes judicial discretion by imposing rigid sentencing mandates that give judges no room to handle cases individually.
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New Democrat MP Don Davies cited testimony from a former Reagan appointee to the DEA who told the public safety committee that mandatory minimums and three-strikes policies were clear errors.
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NDP MP Charlie Angus asked whether the Muskoka minister used diverted border infrastructure funds to offer jobs during the election campaign, and Conservative MP Deepak Obhrai said all the money was spent wisely and under budget.
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NDP MP Alexandre Boulerice said the government is paying Deloitte $90,000 a day while Conservative MP Tony Clement replied that private-sector advice is essential to avoid the fiscal problems seen elsewhere.
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NDP MP Megan Leslie said cuts jeopardize ozone research at a time when the layer is thinner than ever, and Environment Minister Peter Kent said Environment Canada will continue monitoring in the most cost-effective way.
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- deflectedThe EconomyMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the premise as false and pivots to global uncertainty without addressing specific warnings or spending versus investing.
this analysis is completely false.
- deflectedThe EconomyMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer calls the statements false and emphasizes existing policy without addressing the IMF warning on cuts or strategic investments.
the Leader of the Opposition 's statements are completely false.
- misdirectedThe EconomyMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks opposition ideas on debt and taxes instead of providing a plan for unemployment or EI access.
good ideas do not include raising debt and raising taxes, as that party advocates.
- partly answeredThe EconomyMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses past stimulus actions and job creation but does not engage with current infrastructure investment proposals.
Our country has 600,000 more people working now because of our economic action plan.
- deflectedThe EconomyMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer opens with sarcasm toward the NDP and restates past actions without addressing resistance to new job creation measures.
excuse me for confusing sound economic policy with anything the NDP puts forward.
- misdirectedThe EconomyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer criticizes the Liberals' election platform instead of specifying conditions for flexibility on job creation.
the Liberals just ran an election campaign without a single important thing in terms of an economic platform.
- answeredThe EconomyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the perimeter negotiations as a means to protect access to the American market.
negotiations about the perimeter are negotiations about our access to the American economy.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Scott Simms (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the circumstances of the visit but avoids any response on repayment or apology.
Three days into the visit I participated in a search and rescue demonstration with 103 Squadron of 9 Wing Gander.
- answeredNational DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly justifies the helicopter use by explaining the purpose as a search and rescue demonstration.
I think I just explained that I shortened a personal visit to take part in a search and rescue demonstration in Gander.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the cost and leadership question by shifting to general praise of search and rescue operations.
Canada has a rescue area of responsibility of over 18 million square kilometres of land and sea, the size of continental Europe.
- deflectedNational DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the question on ministerial cuts by reiterating pride in the forces and general efficiencies.
I can confirm that all government departments are looking at their departments for efficiencies, as Canadians would expect them to do
- misdirectedNational DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer turns to attacking the opposition by implying the asker used similar assets rather than addressing spending cuts.
I suspect she may have availed herself of a Canadian Forces asset at that time.
- deflectedG8 SummitMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the job offer question and restates that infrastructure money was spent well.
The minister said that the infrastructure money and all the money was spent wisely, and under budget for the people of that riding.
- deflectedG8 SummitMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the ethics question by pivoting to project cost savings and Auditor General review.
The Auditor General has looked at it and given a recommendation. Let us move on.
- partly answeredGovernment SpendingMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses the value of consultants but does not engage with the specific out-of-touch spending comparison.
private sector advice is a key part of our plan to ensure that Canada does not experience the economic and financial problems that other countries in the world are experiencing.
- deflectedGovernment SpendingMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats the savings claim and shifts focus to economic leadership instead of addressing spending control.
It is important that we get that outside advice. It is important that we focus on finding savings, so that we can still be an economy and country that other countries look to for leadership.
- deflectedGovernment SpendingMr. Andrew Cash (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates the government's spending mandate without naming any services at risk of cuts.
We want to deliver high quality services to Canadians and spend within our means.
- misdirectedNational DefenceMr. Scott Andrews (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner's stance on fishing and pivots to a parliamentary program instead of addressing the helicopter and jet use.
I do not know what a member from Newfoundland has against fishing.
- partly answeredNational DefenceMr. Frank Valeriote (Liberal) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the 2001 U.S. competition process but does not address why no open Canadian competition occurred.
Partner nations were engaged during the competitive process.
- deflectedNational DefenceJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats the $9 billion budget figure and election mandate without reconciling the new per-plane cost estimates.
We have budgeted $9 billion to purchase F-35s.
- answeredTaxationMr. Hoang Mai (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states that investigations are underway and the government is cooperating with the RCMP.
the government is co-operating fully with the RCMP into these matters.
- answeredTaxationMr. Hoang Mai (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.The answer confirms the matter is with the RCMP and notes some allegations are already in court.
this matter is in the hands of the RCMP.
- answeredTaxationMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer reports that the finance minister has raised the issue directly with U.S. counterparts.
The finance minister has raised that concern directly with his counterpart in the United States
- answeredTaxationMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer confirms the minister conveyed concerns about privacy and penalties to U.S. officials.
He made sure that our American counterparts were aware of the frustrations and the concern that this did provide to seniors
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies the premise of cuts harming monitoring and affirms continuation of services.
Environment Canada will continue to monitor ozone.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). loaded question.Answer again rejects implied harm from cuts and restates ongoing monitoring without addressing impacts.
We will continue to monitor ozone.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMs. Laurin Liu (NDP) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to attacking opposition for opposing oil sands jobs instead of addressing pipeline concerns.
That is how many jobs the opposition members say no to when they bash Canada abroad.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMs. Laurin Liu (NDP) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). loaded question.Answer accuses opposition of partisan attacks rather than addressing balance of environment and development.
the opposition needs to stop knocking Canada's economic growth and start supporting the hundreds of thousands of jobs
- deflectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal) asked Mr. Rick Dykstra (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids apology request by praising the refugee system and bill instead of addressing the specific family case.
we have a very fair and just refugee system in this country.
- partly answeredHealthCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked John Duncan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses aboriginal child health priority via provincial agreements but does not commit to the specific report.
We have entered into agreements with provinces on child and family services.
- answeredCanada-U.S. RelationsMr. Robert Chisholm (NDP) asked Ed Fast (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states actions taken to negotiate exemptions and raise concerns with US counterparts.
I raised our concerns regarding the buy America provisions with my counterpart, as well as with the U.S. ambassador to Canada.
- misdirectedCanada-U.S. RelationsMr. Robert Chisholm (NDP) asked Ed Fast (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the questioner's party for similar policies instead of addressing the buy America negotiation record.
that is pretty rich coming from an individual in a party that actually has a senior member, one of its MPs, contemplating running for the leadership of the party and has a motion before the House calling for the same trade measures to be implemented in Canada.
- partly answeredEmploymentMark Eyking (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains the temporary EI-related jobs but ignores the fishing trips accusation and the call to save jobs.
The jobs were temporary. We are respecting taxpayers' money in that regard and that is why there will be fewer employees.
- partly answeredVeterans AffairsMr. Peter Stoffer (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer describes outreach programs but does not address the claim of abdicating responsibility to provinces.
That is why we have established outreach initiatives in Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver to provide assistance to homeless veterans, and also in all our district offices.
- deflectedHousingMs. Marie-Claude Morin (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to past spending and opposition votes instead of addressing new investments in social housing.
Fourteen thousand projects were completed, as well as renovations. It is the hon. member's party that voted against all these efforts.
- partly answeredGovernment SpendingMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The answer justifies external contracting for cost reasons but does not address the specific $2 billion figure or layoffs.
We believe there are cases when contracting outside is cheaper and more flexible than it is to maintain someone on the public payroll.
- answeredBusiness of the HouseMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer outlines the week's agenda on economy and crime bills and notes the budget measures already passed.
We continue to pursue that economic agenda. Our other priority is also related to having a sound economy, and that is having safe communities and safe streets by combatting crime.