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Friday, September 23, 2011 · sitting No. 19
Commons debates refugee bill as opposition assails two-tier system
The House devoted the largest share of its sitting to debate on Bill C-4, the Preventing Human Smugglers from Abusing Canada's Immigration System Act. Liberal MP Mark Eyking told the House the measure would give the minister power to designate irregular arrivals and create a two-tiered refugee system. NDP MP John Rafferty asked why Ottawa seeks to bar designated refugees from applying for permanent residence and family reunification for five years.
Question period opened with NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair pressing the government on its economic plan after British Prime Minister David Cameron warned of a debt crisis. Conservative MP Shelly Glover replied that Canada holds the strongest fiscal position in the G7 and that tax increases would kill jobs. Later exchanges focused on the use of search-and-rescue aircraft by Defence Minister Peter MacKay and on training missions in Afghanistan.
Decided that day
- Six private members' bills introduced
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Who held the floor · 2011-09-23
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Pensions
NDP MP Peggy Nash said the government's pooled pension plan would expose Canadians' savings to market risk while guaranteeing returns for fund managers. Conservative MP Shelly Glover listed tax cuts for seniors and the introduction of PRPPs as steps already taken to improve retirement security.
Read the exchangeSearch and Rescue
Liberal MP Wayne Easter asked Defence Minister Peter MacKay to table records showing his fishing-trip flight on a Cormorant helicopter had been a pre-planned training exercise. MacKay said the trip was cut short for government business and that use of government aircraft has fallen 80 per cent.
Read the exchangeAfghanistan
NDP MP Paul Dewar said recent combat involving Canadian trainers in Kabul contradicted repeated government statements that the mission would be non-combat. Defence Minister Peter MacKay replied that forces will always defend themselves in a dangerous city and that the combat mission itself has ended.
Read the exchangeCanadian Wheat Board
Liberal MP Frank Valeriote asked why the government dismisses a 62-per-cent farmer vote to keep the Canadian Wheat Board single desk when it claims a 39-per-cent national vote as a mandate. Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz said western farmers already market other commodities freely and will soon do the same with wheat.
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- deflectedThe EconomyMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Mrs. Shelly Glover (Conservative). substantive question.The answer quotes external praise and restates the action plan without specifying measures for the crisis.
we have the next phase of Canada's economic action plan, which will continue us on the path of success.
- partly answeredThe EconomyMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Mrs. Shelly Glover (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists elements of an existing plan but focuses on opposition votes rather than addressing new infrastructure investment.
we do have a plan to support jobs and to create some growth here in Canada.
- deflectedThe EconomyMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Mrs. Shelly Glover (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites Canada's strong position and warns against tax increases instead of addressing infrastructure investment.
The last thing that we need is to tax our businesses $10 billion more, which would in fact kill jobs.
- partly answeredPensionsMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Mrs. Shelly Glover (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists past tax cuts and reforms but does not address guaranteed security versus market-based plans.
We cut taxes for seniors and pensioners by over $2 billion annually.
- deflectedPensionsMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Mrs. Shelly Glover (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats prior reforms and PRPPs without engaging the premise of preferring market risk over public plans.
we are about to implement the pooled registered pension plan.
- deflectedThe EconomyMr. Massimo Pacetti (Liberal) asked Mrs. Shelly Glover (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights growth projections and ratings instead of addressing program cuts during downturn.
Both the IMF and the OECD agree that Canada will have one of the fastest growing economies in the G7.
- misdirectedSearch and RescueWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends personal actions and notes reduced aircraft use but does not confirm or refute the override claim.
as I said yesterday, I was on a trip to the beautiful province of Newfoundland and Labrador, a trip I paid for myself.
- misdirectedSearch and RescueWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats reduced aircraft use and attacks the asker on a past program instead of providing documentation.
I am surprised that he would raise the issue of helicopters, given that his government cost taxpayers $1 billion by cancelling the EH-101 program
- partly answeredAfghanistanMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the incident and self-defense but does not fully acknowledge the non-combat role claim.
They will return fire and protect themselves.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the misleading claim by accusing the asker of misleading the House instead.
To suggest somehow that the Canadian government has said there will be no danger in Kabul is completely wrong, and he is misleading the House.
- deflectedNational DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer ignores the specific trips and pivots to general policy compliance and past Liberal use.
Our use of government aircraft by our ministers is always in compliance with policy.
- deflectedNational DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses general prudence with aircraft but does not address the lobster festival or same-day order.
We are very careful and prudent in doing so.
- misdirectedNational DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer turns to praising government business without addressing the fishing trip or jet use.
our ministers and our government officials are proud to do the government's business.
- misdirectedNational DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer praises forces leadership instead of addressing leaks or who runs the department.
I am very proud of the leadership within the Canadian Forces.
- answeredNational DefenceMr. Tarik Brahmi (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly denies the dismantling claim and explains the parts interchange.
No, Mr. Speaker, that is not true.
- partly answeredNational DefenceMr. Tarik Brahmi (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses upgrades and past challenges but does not confirm or deny the 2016 timeline.
They are involved in an upgrade right now that will see their availability in the future
- deflectedVeterans AffairsMr. Peter Stoffer (NDP) asked Ms. Eve Adams (Conservative). substantive question.Answer lists specific actions on agent orange and homelessness but avoids the core question on seamless transition and timeline for fixes.
We have established new initiatives in Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver, to help with the homeless.
- deflectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked Ms. Candice Hoeppner (Conservative). substantive question.Answer explains general CBSA mandate and due process but does not address the specific case or why the minister did not intervene.
Those individuals who are assessed to be in violation and do receive orders, do receive due process before the law.
- partly answeredTaxationGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Mrs. Shelly Glover (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses concerns raised with the US and CRA non-collection but does not explain why only a letter was sent.
We raised those concerns directly with the American government.
- deflectedTaxationGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Mrs. Shelly Glover (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats prior points on actions taken but ignores the call for the Prime Minister to call President Obama directly.
That is why the Minister of Finance took immediate action and spoke with our American counterparts.
- deflectedGovernment SpendingMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Mr. Andrew Saxton (Conservative). substantive question.Answer defends consultant spending with claimed savings but does not address why the budget is out of control during restraint.
For every dollar that is spent, we expect to receive $200 in savings.
- misdirectedGovernment SpendingMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Mr. Andrew Saxton (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to general economic plan and attacks opposition voting record instead of addressing consultant spending.
Canadians gave us the strong mandate to protect and pursue Canada's economic recovery.
- deflectedPresident of the Treasury BoardMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). loaded question.Answer dismisses the question as mud-raking and pivots to jobs and economy without addressing the patronage allegations.
that kind of mud-raking by the opposition was rejected in the last election.
- misdirectedPresident of the Treasury BoardMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the asker's voting record and repeats prior deflection instead of addressing the Public Appointments Commission or Accountability Act.
maybe the hon. member should see his voting record and find out how they voted against it, because he will get the answer faster.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates monitoring will continue without addressing the accusation of misleading Canadians on cuts.
Environment Canada will continue to monitor the ozone.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). substantive question.Answer claims misquote and pivots to fiscal restraint instead of addressing the science on ozone data.
my colleague has misquoted me, but I will assure her that the environment remains a key priority for this government
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMs. Laurin Liu (NDP) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to economic benefits and attacks opposition instead of explaining pipeline promotion versus climate targets.
While the opposition continues to bash Canada abroad, our government will defend the Canadian economy
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMs. Laurin Liu (NDP) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks NDP record on jobs rather than addressing pipeline impact on Canadian jobs and environment.
the NDP talking about jobs and the oil sands is ridiculous.
- partly answeredCanadian Wheat BoardMr. Frank Valeriote (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses farmers' marketing ability but ignores the vote percentage and constituent representation issue.
The vast majority of western Canadian farmers understand the need and the requirements to market on their own behalf.
- deflectedCanadian Wheat BoardMr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to criticizing Liberal history and Wheat Board voting list instead of addressing the vote validity comparison.
the Prime Minister did an excellent job on Monday explaining to the Liberals how even they could elect more members if they use a skewed voters' list like the Wheat Board did.
- deflectedOfficial LanguagesMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). substantive question.Answer highlights funding and cooperation but avoids addressing rejected motions on Air Canada and documents.
Our government is determined to continue to protect and promote our country's two official languages.
- deflectedOfficial LanguagesMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats funding commitment and calls for non-partisanship without addressing committee rejections or service impacts.
This money will strengthen the country's existing official language minority communities and will bring language and culture to new communities across Canada.
- deflectedEmploymentMark Eyking (Liberal) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). loaded question.The answer opens by dismissing the premise as hyperbole instead of addressing job recovery measures.
first, the hon. member knows full well that as much as he wants to use hyperbole in this place, it does not serve any purpose.
- partly answeredEmploymentMark Eyking (Liberal) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states meetings occurred and attributes closure to global downturn but provides no specific recovery actions.
The Minister of ACOA and the Minister of National Defence have met repeatedly on this issue.
- answeredAboriginal AffairsMr. John Rafferty (NDP) asked John Duncan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly confirms work on the coroner's recommendations and ongoing community support.
We are working to address the nine recommendations made to our department in the Ontario coroner's report released this month and we will do everything we can to address the situation.
- answeredForeign AffairsMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Mr. Chris Alexander (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states the government's clear opposition to the proposed constituency arrangement.
However, our government is opposed to Canada being used as an electoral constituency by a foreign country.
- deflectedGovernment SpendingMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts focus to past Liberal usage rather than addressing current wasteful spending.
If we compare, for example, what happened under the Liberal Party when the typical use of a Challenger for cabinet ministers was 153 flights a year, we are looking at about 24 or 25 flights in a year, a significant reduction.