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Monday, December 7, 2009 · sitting No. 125
Commons backs closure on HST bill for Ontario and British Columbia
Government House Leader Jay Hill moved a motion to end debate on Government Business No. 8, which would limit further consideration of legislation to implement the harmonized sales tax in Ontario and British Columbia. NDP MP Yvon Godin said the measure would impose new taxes on heating and other items and accused the government of denying Parliament a real debate. Finance Minister Jim Flaherty replied that the changes fall under provincial jurisdiction and that Ontario and British Columbia are exercising their own tax authority.
Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff asked Defence Minister Peter MacKay to reconcile his statements on Afghan detainee transfers with diary entries and sworn testimony from Canadian officials. Conservative MP John Baird said the individual in question was never detained or transferred by Canadian forces. Liberal MP David McGuinty pressed Environment Minister Jim Prentice on the absence of regulations or a carbon price to meet 2010 emissions targets ahead of the Copenhagen conference.
Decided that day
- Motion on excise-tax bill passed
- Amendment to motion defeated
- Debate on government business curtailed
- Bills C-490, C-488 and C-489 introduced
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Who held the floor · 2009-12-07
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British Home Children
Conservative MP Phil McColeman moved a motion to designate 2010 as the Year of the British Home Child and described the story of his uncle, Kenneth Bickerton, one of nearly four million Canadians with such family ties. Liberal MP John Cannis supported the motion and suggested provinces add the history to school curricula.
Read the exchangeKAIROS
Liberal MP Francis Valeriote said KAIROS had its funding cut after nearly 40 years because its programs do not fit Conservative priorities. International Cooperation Minister Bev Oda replied that the government is focusing aid on justice systems, human rights and health care that produce measurable results.
Read the exchangeConsumer Product Safety
Conservative MP Sylvie Boucher said Liberal senators had weakened the Canada Consumer Product Safety Act with amendments that would make it easier to protect animals than children. Health Minister Leona Aglukkaq urged passage of the bill as passed by the House.
Read the exchangePostal Service
Liberal MP Jean-Claude D'Amours said more than 55,000 rural Canadians have lost home mail delivery since 2006 and asked why the government had not acted. Transport Minister Rob Merrifield said a Canada Post charter guarantees universal service with set delivery standards.
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- misdirectedAfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the asker and demands an apology to troops instead of addressing the sworn testimony contradiction.
- misdirectedAfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats prior statement and accuses Liberals of smearing troops rather than engaging the field officer's diary or testimony.
for more than three years, we have seen the Liberal Party and the members opposite smear our brave men and women in uniform.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates that forces acted on evidence and demands an apology without addressing the one-year delay in government action.
The member opposite should apologize to those men and women in uniform.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to Copenhagen conference and international agreement instead of stating the megatonne reduction figure for industrial emitters.
The important issue right now is that today is the first day of the Copenhagen conference.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks Liberal history on Kyoto rather than explaining the 29-megatonne increase or lack of regulations.
at Kyoto they were excited: they had a target but they had no plan.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.Answer highlights Quebec's participation in the delegation but does not address whether the federal position harms Quebec's interests.
We are delighted that Quebec is part of the delegation.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.Answer dismisses the sovereignist party and accuses it of dividing the country instead of defending the position against Quebec's interests.
it is not up to the leader of a sovereignist party to tell us how to make the Canadian federation work.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.Answer notes harmonized targets with the US at 17% but does not address the risk of retaliatory tariffs for Quebec exporters.
President Obama already announced yesterday that his country has a reduction target of 17%.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.The answer discusses consultations and Copenhagen but ignores the claim about lobbyists or oil companies dictating policy.
I consulted extensively with everyone involved and with all the provinces leading up to Copenhagen.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates general commitments without addressing the lack of a plan or concrete action.
our government, our minister and our Prime Minister will continue to work very hard to produce a solid agreement in Copenhagen.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the asker for running down Canada instead of addressing the absence of a plan or regulations.
not a single tonne of carbon is reduced when he runs down Canada and repeats those mischaracterizations of the position of the Canadian government or the actions of our country.
- partly answeredDisability and Health BenefitsJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses training investments for long-tenured workers but does not commit to supporting the specific bill.
We have made unprecedented investments in training, including training specifically for long-tenured workers, to help get Canadians back to work.
- deflectedAfghanistanUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer redefines the incident as not involving a transferred detainee and avoids the request for an apology or uncensored documents.
It was discussed in the House two and a half years ago.
- misdirectedAfghanistanUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer turns to attacking the asker and demanding an apology rather than addressing the request for documents or an apology from the minister.
If anybody should apologize, it should be that member, who has called senior officers of the Canadian Forces legally flimsy, negligent, liars, war criminals, and morally weak.
- misdirectedAfghanistanMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer demands an apology from the asker and explains the redaction process without addressing the minister's alleged role in censoring documents.
I hope the hon. member will get on her feet and apologize to the Minister of National Defence
- misdirectedAfghanistanMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the asker and demands an apology instead of explaining the minister's involvement in document redaction.
She has not done the right thing which is to apologize to the Minister of National Defence
- deflectedAfghanistanMs. Francine Lalonde (Bloc) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies the claim outright and pivots to an old story without addressing the testimony or the accusation of misleading.
what the member is saying is completely false.
- deflectedAfghanistanMs. Francine Lalonde (Bloc) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the question as nonsense and reasserts good faith without addressing the call to tell the truth.
- deflectedInternational CooperationMs. Johanne Deschamps (Bloc) asked Bev Oda (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the specific NGOs and funding cuts and instead restates general commitments.
the member's question gives me an opportunity to re-articulate our government's commitment to effective international development and aid.
- deflectedInternational CooperationMs. Johanne Deschamps (Bloc) asked Bev Oda (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids explaining the cuts and lists other supported groups instead.
we will continue to support the Primate's World Relief, which is working in Bangladesh, Mozambique and Tanzania improving the health care for women and working on HIV-AIDS;
- deflectedInternational CooperationJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Bev Oda (Conservative). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the KAIROS cut and the criticism motive by listing other funded organizations.
That is why we will continue to support work that provides better health care, improved literacy, food security, water and sanitation facilities.
- deflectedInternational CooperationJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Bev Oda (Conservative). loaded question.The answer again lists supported groups and quotes an opposition member rather than addressing restoration of KAIROS funding.
Right now Canada wants to make a real difference.
- deflectedPostal ServiceMr. Jean-Claude D'Amours (Liberal) asked Rob Merrifield (Conservative). loaded question.The answer calls the premise false and points to a charter without addressing the specific losses of service.
- deflectedPostal ServiceMr. Jean-Claude D'Amours (Liberal) asked Rob Merrifield (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats the charter claim and denies the premise without engaging the rural service equality question.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies the premise outright and attacks the opposition instead of addressing the call for an apology or inquiry.
They are definitely clutching at straws, and it is just not going to work, because Canadians can see through this.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer rejects the accusation as outrageous and restates support for the military without addressing responsibility or the cover-up claim.
We have never blamed the military.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the program and shifts focus to provincial promotion rather than addressing restrictive eligibility criteria.
We invite the Government of Quebec and the other provinces to promote this program in order for more workers or people who have lost their jobs to benefit from it.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats program details and provincial jurisdiction without addressing easing eligibility for forestry workers.
I repeat: this is a provincial jurisdiction, but we are making money available to the provinces to help workers who lose their jobs.
- answeredMuseumsMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the legal constraints on arbitration and the government's prior engagement with both parties.
We could appoint an arbitrator but both sides must agree.
- answeredMuseumsMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the request by reiterating the need for both parties' agreement and ongoing calls to negotiate.
We continue to ask both parties to return to the table as soon as possible.
- deflectedTax HarmonizationMrs. Carol Hughes (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the specific claims about consumers and aboriginal rights by pivoting to provincial autonomy and past precedents.
We on this side of the House do not think we ought to discriminate between provinces and their areas of jurisdiction
- misdirectedTax HarmonizationMr. Bill Siksay (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer turns to attacking the NDP and BC politics instead of addressing the lack of consultation or rush on the HST.
British Columbians know that it is Conservatives who believe in lower taxes and it is members of the NDP who believe in higher taxes.
- answeredUnited States Steel CorporationMs. Siobhan Coady (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the question by stating the government's legal action against U.S. Steel.
this government is in court against U.S. Steel. For the first time in the history of the legislation, we are suing its butt off.
- deflectedFirearms RegistryMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Helena Guergis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the question by attacking the premise and the asker instead of addressing the registry's merits.
any suggestion that any member in this House would not want to see an end to violence against women is not only wrong, it is hateful.
- deflectedInternational AidMr. John Rafferty (NDP) asked Bev Oda (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the specific funding cuts by listing other supported groups instead.
This government supports and will continue to support the good work of religious and church-based organizations.