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Friday, December 4, 2009 · sitting No. 124
Bloc opposes self-employed benefits bill over Quebec costs
The House spent the largest share of its time on government orders debating Bill C-56, the Fairness for the Self-Employed Act. Bloc Québécois MP Pierre Paquette said the party had voted against the bill at report stage because amendments to ensure equity for Quebec workers were rejected by Conservatives and Liberals. Bloc Québécois MP Diane Bourgeois said Quebeckers would again pay for the rest of Canada as the employment insurance fund moved into deficit.
In question period Liberal MP Dominic LeBlanc asked why the government transferred Afghan detainees when it knew of widespread torture risks in Afghan prisons. Conservative MP John Baird said no proven cases of abuse of Canadian-transferred prisoners existed and called on the Liberals to apologize to the Canadian Forces. NDP MP Thomas Mulcair pressed the government to adopt binding emission targets using 1990 as the base year and cited international criticism of Canada's climate record.
Decided that day
- C-62 introduced
- C-464 given second reading
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Who held the floor · 2009-12-04
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Other moments
Afghanistan
Liberal MP Dominic LeBlanc said senior Canadian commanders received only twelve hours to transfer detainees and asked why Ottawa imposed that deadline despite torture risks.
Read the exchangeThe Environment
Conservative MP John Baird told NDP MP Thomas Mulcair that the government had already committed in 2007 to absolute reductions and urged members to work together ahead of Copenhagen.
Read the exchangeFirearms Registry
Bloc Québécois MP Thierry St-Cyr said survivors of the École Polytechnique massacre had called the government's plan to dismantle the registry a slap in the face to victims.
Read the exchangeCanada-China Relations
Liberal MP Bonnie Crombie asked whether ministers had evidence for claims of a massive Chinese spy ring after accusing the government of damaging ties with Beijing.
Read the exchangeUkraine
Liberal MP Ralph Goodale said Canada should send five hundred observers to Ukraine's presidential election as it did in 2004 instead of slashing support by nearly ninety per cent.
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- misdirectedAfghanistanDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the opposition for partisan games and demands an apology rather than addressing legal obligations on detainee transfers.
Regrettably, the opposition is continuing to play partisan games on the backs of our men and women in uniform.
- deflectedAfghanistanDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question as nonsense and pivots to praising commanders while demanding an apology instead of explaining the 12-hour transfer order.
the allegations made by the member opposite are pure nonsense.
- deflectedAfghanistanDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates government actions taken and quotes General Hillier but does not address why transfers continued despite risks or the call for a public inquiry.
That is why we undertook a new transfer agreement.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains redactions and rules for protecting troops but avoids addressing why detainees were transferred despite known torture risks.
Redactions are done by non-partisan civil servants, public servants, who operate within the rules
- partly answeredAfghanistanMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the decision process for transfers and Afghan responsibility but does not address the call for a public inquiry or abdication of responsibilities.
Once they are transferred to the Afghans, it is up to the Afghans to prosecute them as they see fit within their organization and their justice system.
- misdirectedAfghanistanMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer disputes whether the memo was sent rather than addressing the 18-month delay in changing the transfer protocol or meeting international obligations.
as I understand it, Mr. Colvin said that he did not send the letter in the first place.
- misdirectedAfghanistanMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer focuses on the memo not being transmitted instead of responding to the criticism of ignoring torture allegations and violating conventions.
we cannot attack the messenger when the very document he cites was not even transmitted.
- partly answeredAfghanistanMr. Jean Dorion (Bloc) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer details occasions when transfers were stopped and reasons but does not address the accusation of half-truths regarding Afghan refusals or protocol effectiveness.
we stopped transfers on a number of occasions.
- misdirectedAfghanistanMr. Jean Dorion (Bloc) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). loaded question.Answer defends actions and attacks premise instead of addressing inquiry request.
It is time to stop dragging the military through the mud and support it.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates prior commitment without addressing 1990 reference year or binding targets.
I would remind the member opposite that in the spring of 2007 the government committed to an absolute reduction.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids the Guardian quote and policy critique by urging to stop blame game.
Instead of trying to run down the country, why do we not put politics aside, stop the blame game and work together on this important agreement in Copenhagen?
- misdirectedAfghanistanMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks NDP via unrelated candidate letter instead of addressing inquiry or contradictions.
The NDP members should stand in their places and distance themselves from these outrageous allegations against a great Canadian hero who wore the uniform for a generation, who epitomizes the very best in Canadians.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to past Liberal record rather than responding to current targets or China comparison.
I can barely believe my ears when I hear a Liberal member critique the environment policies of this government.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats Liberal criticism and avoids specifics on plan credibility or clean tech.
The Liberals need to stop playing their political games.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMs. Kirsty Duncan (Liberal) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). substantive question.Answer states targets but does not confirm if 2010 megatonne reduction will be met.
Canada is going to Copenhagen with the targets that we announced two years ago, 20% absolute reductions by 2020 using the 2006 baseline.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Kirsty Duncan (Liberal) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). substantive question.Answer quotes Liberal leader and claims credit without addressing plan credibility or Copenhagen representation.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). substantive question.The answer promotes the government's plan and calls to stop politics without addressing binding legislation or the 1990 reference year.
We all need to work together and stop the politics.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). substantive question.The answer criticizes targets as crazy and tells the member to listen instead of addressing Quebec's reference-year concerns.
- misdirectedFirearms RegistryMr. Thierry St-Cyr (Bloc) asked Mrs. Sylvie Boucher (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the opposition for playing politics on women's deaths rather than addressing the registry's role in preventing violence.
the members of the opposition should be ashamed of playing politics on subject of the death of women.
- deflectedFirearms RegistryMr. Thierry St-Cyr (Bloc) asked Mrs. Sylvie Boucher (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to other bills on violence and claims to stand up for women without addressing the registry question.
On this side of the House, we are standing up for the women of Canada.
- partly answeredCanada-China RelationsMrs. Bonnie Crombie (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer affirms the value of speaking on human rights while noting trade growth but does not fully address consistent engagement.
We believe and our Prime Minister believes that we can advance human rights and strengthen economic ties.
- misdirectedCanada-China RelationsMrs. Bonnie Crombie (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks Liberal foreign policy as value-free and lists unrelated wins instead of addressing evidence for the spy-ring claim.
today's Liberal attack is very consistent with the overall value-free foreign policy of the Liberal Party, go along to get along.
- answeredUkraineRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains that Canada is sending the maximum observers requested by the OSCE.
Because of our strong commitment to Ukraine, Canada will be sending the maximum number of observers requested by the OSCE.
- answeredUkraineRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.The answer reiterates coordination with the OSCE and supplying exactly what it requested.
Whatever it has requested is what Canada is supplying.
- partly answeredViolence Against WomenMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Mrs. Sylvie Boucher (Conservative). substantive question.The answer details a specific shelter partnership but does not address a broader coordinated national effort.
As we know, the Minister of State has continued her support for women and yesterday announced a partnership with provincial shelter organizations throughout the country to strengthen their capacity to provide adequate services to victims of domestic violence, especially immigrants, aboriginal women and the handicapped.
- partly answeredEmploymentMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists youth job programs but opens by attacking the NDP instead of fully addressing the unemployment concerns raised.
That particular party, the NDP, should get behind that program and vote for it, not against it.
- partly answeredSocial HousingMrs. Josée Beaudin (Bloc) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states that over 50% of funding has been delivered but does not explain the delay in Quebec specifically.
In fact, over 50% of the funding allocated for this year has been delivered or is in the process of being delivered to provinces and territories.
- deflectedSocial HousingMrs. Josée Beaudin (Bloc) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists past funding commitments but avoids committing to new funds or long-term social housing pledges.
We committed $2 billion to repair and build new social housing; $1 billion for repairs and upgrades for seniors, and specifically designated $400 million for seniors
- answeredFisheries and OceansMark Eyking (Liberal) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the program's criteria and reports that over $7 million has been distributed to eligible fishers.
Fair criteria were established and in a very short time, over $7 million has gone out to more than 1,000 fishers in Atlantic Canada and Quebec.
- deflectedFisheries and OceansMark Eyking (Liberal) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to long-term industry investments and criticizes the opposition rather than addressing immediate assistance shortfalls.
This is more money than that party ever put on the table for the lobster industry.
- partly answeredPensionsMr. John Rafferty (NDP) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer confirms the minister's prior agreement but provides no confirmation that a meeting has occurred or is scheduled.
I did indeed answer the question positively that day and said that the minister would meet with them, but we know how busy the finance minister has been in implementing Canada's economic action plan.
- deflectedInfrastructureMr. Alex Atamanenko (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the opposition for inconsistent criticism instead of addressing the deadline concerns raised.
the opposition cannot have it both ways.
- deflectedTransportationMs. Siobhan Coady (Liberal) asked Rob Merrifield (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the prior Liberal government's record instead of addressing the timeline for action on Marine Atlantic.
They did absolutely nothing and watched it fall down around its ears.
- partly answeredMuseumsMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The answer notes the strike is legal and urges talks but does not address the claimed double standard or possible intervention.
The union recently overwhelmingly rejected the latest offer from the employer.
- deflectedAirline IndustryMr. Jim Maloway (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to quoting criticism of the bill and rural service concerns rather than addressing tarmac penalties or passenger rights legislation.
Altogether, this bill strikes us unwise.
- partly answeredNatural ResourcesMr. Paul Szabo (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer confirms an examination will occur this year but rejects the premise of misconduct or cover-up without engaging the call for immediate action.
these special examinations are required every five years and one will be done this year.