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Tuesday, December 1, 2009 · sitting No. 121

NDP motion for Afghan detainee inquiry dominates supply day

The House spent the largest share of the sitting on a New Democratic motion calling on the government to launch a public inquiry under the Inquiries Act into the transfer of detainees from Canadian custody to Afghan authorities between 2001 and 2009. NDP MP Paul Dewar moved the motion and argued that an independent review was required to examine evidence already presented to committee. Conservative ministers Peter MacKay and Laurie Hawn countered that the motion would politicize the issue and defended the government’s handling of the files.

In Question Period, Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff pressed the government on the release of uncensored documents related to the same detainee transfers, citing conflicting statements from ministers and General Walter Natynczyk. Conservative House Leader John Baird replied that the government would release all legally available information while protecting the safety of Canadian personnel. Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe and NDP members also raised the government’s greenhouse-gas targets and employment-insurance changes for self-employed workers in Quebec.

Decided that day

  • The House passed a motion urging the government to act in accordance with Part 1 of the relevant legislation

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Who held the floor · 2009-12-01

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 37%, opposition 63% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0011:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:15Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 15 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
38One motion passed amid deflected answersThe House spent most of its time on Business of Supply and passed one opposition motion, yet Question Period produced only two direct answers and four points of order interrupted proceedings. With no bills advanced, the day blended limited output with familiar procedural friction.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Points of Order

Conservative MP Tom Lukiwski argued that Bill C-470 would extend a tax and therefore required a ways and means motion, while Liberal MPs Paul Szabo and Derek Lee maintained that the bill did not create a new tax.

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World AIDS Day

Conservative MP Colin Carrie noted the government’s continued funding for HIV-AIDS programs, while NDP MP Chris Charlton criticized cuts to community organizations and Liberal MP Keith Martin called for integrated primary-health-care funding.

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Infrastructure

Conservative MP John Baird announced a $20-million federal contribution toward the revitalization of Maple Leaf Gardens in partnership with Ryerson University and Loblaw Companies Limited.

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Ukraine

Liberal MP Borys Wrzesnewskyj urged the government to send 500 observers to Ukraine’s January presidential election, matching the 2004 effort, while Conservative MP Deepak Obhrai confirmed that 60 observers would be deployed.

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Copyright Act

NDP MP Charlie Angus said leaked European documents showed that secret ACTA negotiations would override Canadian copyright policy, while Industry Minister Tony Clement replied that any ACTA outcome would remain subject to parliamentary legislation.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    AfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates general policy on legal availability without addressing the inconsistency or guaranteeing full uncensored disclosure.We will continue to provide all legally available information.
  2. misdirected
    AfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The response attacks the Liberal Party's characterization of the general instead of addressing document access.
  3. misdirected
    AfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The response attacks the defence critic and Liberal Party rather than addressing redacted documents or an inquiry.Shame on him. Shame on the Liberal Party.
  4. partly answered
    AfghanistanBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains follow-up procedures for allegations but does not explicitly confirm or deny the quoted policy of recording without investigating.If credible allegations have arisen, as was again confirmed, the Afghan sovereign government will do the follow-up with our assistance.
  5. misdirected
    AfghanistanBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The response accuses the member of sanctimonious lectures and defends sources instead of addressing the call for an inquiry.the problem with the member opposite's sanctimonious lectures in this place is that they are really not consistent.
  6. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses general climate commitments without addressing whether the plan favors Alberta.we are committed to doing our part to fight global warming, to fight climate change.
  7. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer calls the premise false and cites unrelated funding rather than addressing the reference year impact on Quebec.that is completely false and we are pleased that the Obama administration's approach is similar to ours.
  8. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.The answer outlines international plans without addressing whether the 2006 base year penalizes Quebec efforts.the government's plan is quite clear, and that is to search out a binding international agreement at Copenhagen, and from there, to ensure that we have, on a harmonized basis, continental targets and continental rules and regulations with respect to a cap and trade system.
  9. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores the carbon tax and Quebec penalty question to attack coalition partners on targets.It is exactly a year ago today that the Bloc, the NDP, and the Liberals, as coalition partners, voted and brought in a coalition accord.
  10. partly answered
    AfghanistanJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses document provision and security priority but evades the intimidation and Taliban accusation.this government will continue, as it has in the past, to provide all information, all documents that are legally available to be provided.
  11. deflected
    AfghanistanJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to committee testimony and lack of confirmed torture cases instead of addressing document release or public inquiry.there has never been a confirmed case of the torture of a transferred Taliban captive.
  12. partly answered
    AfghanistanJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer covers actions taken on credible evidence but does not address public inquiry or specific ministers in the loop.when this government gets credible, substantiated evidence with respect to this issue, we have acted.
  13. misdirected
    AfghanistanUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the questioner's allegations and defends record while turning to past Liberal actions rather than addressing public inquiry call.the ranting and raving and unfounded allegations from the member opposite are not going to change the facts.
  14. deflected
    AfghanistanUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer highlights contradiction in accusations and legal obligations but avoids committing to document release or inquiry.talk about sucking and blowing.
  15. misdirected
    AfghanistanMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer dismisses the question as rambling and pivots to defending Canadian record versus China instead of addressing detainee transfers.Despite that rambling dissertation, Mr. Speaker, I will take Canada's record on human rights over China's any day.
  16. misdirected
    AfghanistanMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer accuses the member of casting aspersions on the military rather than addressing the 18-month transfer period or public inquiry.That is a backhanded way to cast aspersions on the good work being done by our military and our professional public service.
  17. deflected
    AfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer explains document vetting process but evades the core accusation of obstruction and evasion.I think even a member of the Bloc could understand there are security concerns that we have to protect.
  18. deflected
    AfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer praises Canadian troops and projects but never confirms whether the 2011 mission end date remains unchanged.With respect to the command structure that is in place, Canadian generals, Canadian commanders actually have command over other countries.
  19. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMrs. Josée Beaudin (Bloc) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Answer promotes the bill's benefits but ignores the specific claim that Quebec self-employed workers are overcharged.This is the first time these benefits have been offered outside private companies.
  20. partly answered
    Employment InsuranceMrs. Josée Beaudin (Bloc) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses some measures like extra weeks of benefits but does not respond to the call for Quebec Conservative MPs to stand up for workers.This measure will benefit forestry workers in particular.
  21. deflected
    InfrastructureMr. Gerard Kennedy (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer cites a general job-creation estimate but provides no actual federal job numbers or status reports.One of our main partners is the Federation of Canadian Municipalities.
  22. misdirected
    InfrastructureMr. Gerard Kennedy (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the question by suggesting the member visit construction sites instead of releasing the requested reports.However, I would encourage him to travel around the city of Toronto and around the province of Ontario and see the great work the federal government is doing
  23. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.Answer criticizes Liberal history on Kyoto and targets but never addresses why Canada's targets are less aggressive than China's.It is hard to take the Liberal Party seriously on this matter.
  24. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats the government's position and attacks Liberal inconsistency but avoids explaining why Canadians should trust the Conservatives now.The Liberal Party comes forward with a policy document that calls for no targets.
  25. misdirected
    Tax HarmonizationMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP's voting record rather than addressing HST or tax concerns raised.When we reduced the GST twice, from 7% to 6% and then 6% to 5%, each time the member voted against it.
  26. partly answered
    Aviation SafetyMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses safety concerns and postponement but does not commit to a full review.We are committed to working with stakeholders to ensure the public is safe.
  27. deflected
    Agri-FoodMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates general food safety focus without addressing the specific cheese export issue.our government takes food safety very seriously.
  28. deflected
    Agri-FoodMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists unrelated milk policy actions instead of responding to organic certification or uniformity complaints.Under article 28 of GATT, we took measures to limit the amount of milk protein concentrates entering this country
  29. partly answered
    UkraineMr. Borys Wrzesnewskyj (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.The answer affirms support for Ukraine but does not explain the reduced observer count.We will keep monitoring and we ensure that it will be a transparent and fair election.
  30. misdirected
    UkraineMr. Borys Wrzesnewskyj (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights past involvement but avoids the minister's refusal to meet Davidovich.a lot of members on this side of the House were in Ukraine during the Orange Revolution.
  31. deflected
    Copyright ActMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies agreement on ACTA but does not address tabling the mandate letter.The ACTA negotiations are in fact subservient to any legislation that is put forward in the House.
  32. deflected
    Copyright ActMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer points to a website and claims transparency without tabling negotiation details.The fact is that anything that goes on in ACTA is completely subservient to what we as parliamentarians decide on this issue.
  33. deflected
    MuseumsMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the double standard claim by restating general hopes for mediation.Our mediator has been working with both of these parties since before the strike began and we will continue to pressure both sides to come to an agreement on their own.
  34. answered
    AfghanistanMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The minister gives a clear yes confirming the end date is unchanged.Yes, I can confirm that, Mr. Speaker.
  35. partly answered
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). loaded question.The response covers the review process but omits which option is under consideration.Again, no decisions have been taken by the government.
  36. deflected
    LabourMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the double standard accusation by distinguishing CN's economic role.In terms of CN, this is a vital part of our transportation system and an integral part of our economy.
  37. partly answered
    Natural ResourcesMr. John Rafferty (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.The reply notes prior action and monitoring but offers no new pre-subsidy steps.We are keeping very close tabs on what is happening in the United States.
  38. answered
    Points of OrderMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Jim Abbott (Conservative). rhetorical question.The response directly addresses the representation concern raised in the statement.I do believe there may be an issue here, as raised by my colleague, of the representation that she and a Liberal colleague made as being some kind of an official delegation.
  39. deflected
    Points of OrderMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Mr. James Lunney (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer shifts focus to the document's cover page implying official status.Prominently displayed on the cover page of the document is "House of Commons/Chambre des communes", which implies that the House has approved the report or that it has official status.
  40. deflected
    Points of OrderMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Mr. Tom Lukiwski (Conservative). rhetorical question.The reply pivots to defending the Speaker's ruling rather than engaging the new privilege point.Members opposite and all members of the House know that a Speaker's ruling cannot be challenged.
  41. deflected
    Points of OrderAlbina Guarnieri (Liberal) asked Jim Abbott (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to royal recommendation and departmental expenditures without addressing the specific claims about ministerial discretion or the bill's effective date.There is no question, however, with respect to that bill, and perhaps with respect to my Liberal friend's bill, that there will be either a complete reordering of finances within a given department
  42. misdirected
    Points of OrderMr. Andrew Kania (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer responds to an unrelated point of privilege about document disclosure instead of the ways and means motion issue raised.This information was to be conveyed by Mr. Head on a timely basis for consideration before the matter was dealt with in Parliament.