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Monday, November 30, 2009 · sitting No. 120
Government moves to end CN Rail strike with back-to-work bill
The House spent the largest share of its sitting on a government motion to expedite passage of back-to-work legislation for CN Rail. Conservative MP Ed Komarnicki said the measure was needed to protect the national economy while it remained fragile. NDP MP Chris Charlton objected that the motion imposed a time limit on debate of a bill members had not yet seen.
Question Period was dominated by exchanges over Afghan detainee allegations. Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff said the government had known of torture claims for 18 months and had hidden the truth from Canadians. Conservative MP John Baird accused the Liberals of mounting a disinformation campaign and attacking Canadian troops.
Decided that day
- Privilege motion on Mount Royal question passed
- Bill C-27 moved in first chamber
- Bill S-201 passed second reading
- Bill C-61 introduced
From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard
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Who held the floor · 2009-11-30
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Other moments
Privilege
NDP MP Joe Comartin raised a question of privilege over the justice committee's access to Correctional Service Canada documents, saying ministerial interference had breached members' privileges.
Read the exchangeControlled Drugs and Substances Act
Conservative MP John Weston moved second reading of Bill C-475 to amend the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act on methamphetamine and ecstasy precursors.
Read the exchangeThe Environment
NDP Leader Jack Layton said the Prime Minister lacked leadership on climate targets and was choosing the oil sands over action ahead of the Copenhagen meeting.
Read the exchangeTax Harmonization
Bloc Québécois MP Jean-Yves Laforest asked why Quebec had not received $2.6 billion in compensation for harmonizing its sales tax 18 years earlier.
Read the exchangeHousing
Liberal MP Marc Garneau said the government had spent less than one per cent of announced affordable-housing funds and asked why the money had not flowed.
Read the exchangeQuestion Period, exchange by exchange
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- misdirectedAfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberal Party instead of addressing the demand for evidence to the committee.
When will the Liberal Party stop attacking the actions of our men and women in uniform?
- misdirectedAfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to attacking the Liberals over a general's testimony rather than addressing the cover-up claim.
When did the Liberal Party attack our troops?
- misdirectedAfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer again attacks the opposition's comments on military figures instead of responding to the propaganda and cover-up questions.
No wonder the most well-respected soldier of his generation, General Rick Hillier, called the Liberals' time in office a decade of darkness.
- deflectedAfghanistanBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer accuses opposition of hypocrisy without clarifying the government's process for handling allegations.
That is the hypocrisy coming from the member opposite and members of the opposition
- deflectedAfghanistanBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists actions taken but avoids confirming whether allegations are investigated or merely forwarded.
What the member opposite now is trying to do is confuse Canadians by suggesting, in this chamber, that they do support the diplomats and the military
- partly answeredAfghanistanMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states the government acts on credible allegations and cites testimony of no evidence, addressing the timeline indirectly.
What they said, at the end of the day, was there was no specific evidence.
- partly answeredAfghanistanMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer claims action on substantiated evidence and cites testimony but does not address the Geneva Convention violation claim directly.
They all have said the same thing, that no substantiated allegations have ever been proven on any detainee transferred by a Canadian soldier.
- misdirectedAfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer accuses opposition of hypocrisy on military advice instead of addressing the negligence and torture prevention questions.
The hypocrisy and the cynicism of the members opposite to say that they accept the advice of the military and the senior civil servants but reject the actions of the government points to the real failings of what they are doing.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids any mention of a public inquiry and instead defends document handling while attacking the opposition.
We have and we will continue to disclose documents in keeping with the vetting process that has always been applied with respect to national security, the Canada Evidence Act.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the call for bolder targets and instead promotes the government's existing plan without addressing the UN request.
That is why the government has come forward with an ambitious plan to regulate big industry, the big polluters.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts focus to past Liberal failures on Kyoto rather than addressing the current targets or Copenhagen strategy.
it was under the previous government where Canada ran up a record number of fossil awards at international conventions.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer rebuts the premise about intensity targets but does not engage with the question of provincial versus federal leadership.
- deflectedAfghanistanUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer quotes officials denying mistreatment instead of addressing the call for a public inquiry.
I can very safely say there is nothing in any of these 2006 reports that caused any of the subject matter experts on my staff, nor, by extension, me, to be alerted to either the fact of torture or a very high risk of torture, nothing
- misdirectedAfghanistanUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the member personally for past comments instead of responding to the public inquiry request.
That is morally reprehensible.
- partly answeredAfghanistanAnita Neville (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists existing transparency measures but does not address the Information Commissioner's specific concerns about ATIP failures.
This government has been more transparent, more forthcoming with information about Afghanistan than her party was during its time in office.
- misdirectedAfghanistanAnita Neville (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to attacking the opposition's ten percenters rather than addressing the Information Commissioner's advice.
We will not do ten percenters, trying to raise money on the backs of the Canadian Forces.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes targets and US cooperation without addressing the laughing stock claim.
The two targets are almost the same.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Bloc for isolationism instead of addressing the House motion.
anything that has been put forward by the Bloc in this House and supported by the other opposition parties would lead ultimately to isolationism by this country and economic damage.
- partly answeredTax HarmonizationMr. Jean-Yves Laforest (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes ongoing discussions with Quebec but does not address compensation.
I have had useful discussions with the minister of finance of Quebec in recent weeks, most recently on Friday.
- partly answeredPost-secondary EducationMr. Nicolas Dufour (Bloc) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states negotiations are ongoing but does not address opting out with compensation.
These negotiations are currently taking place and are ongoing.
- deflectedHousingMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights investments without explaining the low spending rate.
we have made historic investments of billions of dollars in housing and social housing, something that the Liberal Party failed to do over 13 years.
- deflectedHousingMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists spending categories without addressing the spending rate or guarantees.
We have $2 billion to repair and renew social housing, $1 billion for repair and upgrades and another $1 billion for renovation
- misdirectedOlympic Winter GamesMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks Liberals for complaining instead of addressing the contract choice.
The Liberals complain all the time about the Olympics.
- misdirectedOlympic Winter GamesMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks Liberals and shifts to RCMP instead of addressing the security contract issues.
It is time the Liberal Party got on board and quit its complaining.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks opposition consistency instead of addressing the inquiry request.
This is the inconsistency, the cynicism and the hypocrisy on this matter coming from the members opposite.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats prior points and attacks opposition rather than addressing the inquiry call.
To suggest that the government should not have taken the advice from these same individuals is irreconcilable.
- misdirectedEmployment InsuranceMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.Answer pivots to attacking the Bloc instead of addressing the bill modification request.
Can intellectuals follow a party that attacks the unemployed and also attacks self-employed workers?
- answeredEmployment InsuranceMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly explains the adjusted rate and rationale for Quebec self-employed workers.
Instead of charging $1.73 for every $100 of income earned, we are asking for just $1.36 for self-employed workers in Quebec who want to benefit from health insurance and compassionate care insurance.
- deflectedPublic Works and Government ServicesMs. Martha Hall Findlay (Liberal) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.Answer cites legal framework and refuses to specify the investigation details.
my colleague is well aware that we cannot comment on internal departmental staffing matters but we can say that federal departments have the tools they need to address them.
- deflectedPublic Works and Government ServicesMs. Martha Hall Findlay (Liberal) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.Answer again cites legal framework without disclosing investigation specifics.
We do not comment on internal departmental staffing matters but we do ensure that federal departments have the tools they need to address them.
- misdirectedHousingMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks NDP voting record instead of addressing the stimulus spending delay.
when we had in our economic action plan a provision for $400 million for seniors, the NDP members voted against it without even reading the budget.
- partly answeredHousingMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses spending progress but ignores the core criticism of inaction and strategy.
funding is proceeding and going to over 300 projects.
- deflectedPensionsMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts focus to provincial jurisdiction and general pension reforms rather than addressing the specific commitment on the Nortel sale review.
As I am sure the hon. member is aware, the Nortel pension is registered with the Province of Ontario, not with the federal government.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Pascal-Pierre Paillé (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The response describes the project but does not address advocating for the families or reconsidering the decision.
I can assure the House and the member opposite that we are currently working on developing a plan for the future with respect to the Manège militaire.
- deflectedLabourMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.The answer justifies the legislation to protect the economy but does not address efforts to return parties to bargaining.
Therefore, we will introduce back to work legislation to end this strike.
- misdirectedPoints of OrderUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). rhetorical question.The response raises a separate issue about unparliamentary language instead of addressing the point of order raised.
I would simply ask that he rise and apologize.
- misdirectedPoints of OrderBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). rhetorical question.The response includes a disparaging comment about the member being a former NDP premier rather than simply acknowledging the withdrawal.
However, the only disparaging thing I have ever said about the member opposite is that he was a former NDP premier.