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Friday, November 27, 2009 · sitting No. 119
Commons advances bill to streamline criminal justice procedures
The House spent the largest share of its time on Government Orders debating Bill C-31, which would amend the Criminal Code and other acts to make the justice system more efficient. Conservative MP Daniel Petit told the House the bill would allow better use of technology and adapt to scientific advances while remaining fair. Liberal MP Brian Murphy and NDP MP Jim Maloway questioned aspects of fingerprinting rules and mixed martial arts provisions.
In Question Period the main exchanges concerned the handling of Afghan detainees. Liberal MP Bob Rae pressed the government on 2006 reports of torture and asked why independent investigations were not conducted sooner. Conservative MP John Baird replied that officials acted on credible evidence and accused the Liberals of using the issue for fundraising.
Decided that day
- C-31 advanced to second reading
- C-58 advanced to second reading
- C-60 introduced
From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard
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Who held the floor · 2009-11-27
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Child Protection Act (Online Sexual Exploitation)
NDP MP Judy Wasylycia-Leis said all parties support the Child Protection Act but called for a comprehensive strategy beyond punishment and noted funding shortfalls for women's organizations.
Read the exchangeTax Harmonization
NDP MP Paul Dewar asked whether the government would drop its HST plan if the motion failed, and Conservative MP John Baird said the government has no plan to raise taxes arbitrarily.
Read the exchangeNortel
Liberal MP Alexandra Mendes condemned Nortel executives for awarding themselves bonuses while employees lost severance and pensions, and Conservative MP Mike Lake expressed outrage at the bonuses.
Read the exchangeThe Environment
Bloc MP Serge Cardin urged a credible greenhouse gas reduction plan, and Conservative MP Mark Warawa defended the government's 20 per cent target by 2020 as among the toughest in the world.
Read the exchange2009 Grey Cup
Conservative MP David Anderson expressed Rider pride ahead of the Grey Cup and noted the Saskatchewan Roughriders' western final win.
Read the exchangeQuestion Period, exchange by exchange
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- deflectedAfghanistanBob Rae (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses actions taken after 2006 but avoids confirming if reports were available then.
When military and diplomats have been presented with credible, substantiated evidence, they have taken the appropriate action.
- misdirectedAfghanistanBob Rae (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the Liberal Party's fundraising instead of addressing the timeline for action.
What is incredibly regretful is that the Liberal Party has tried to use this issue to raise funds in $25, $50 and $100 denominations.
- deflectedAfghanistanBob Rae (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer emphasizes support for troops and attacks the opposition rather than addressing document disclosure.
We will not go on a political fundraising drive by maligning our men and women in uniform.
- partly answeredAfghanistanMr. Brian Murphy (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges problems existed but does not address the claim of no proof of torture.
Nobody has ever said there were not any problems.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Brian Murphy (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer counters by accusing politicization instead of clarifying tracking of detainees.
are the hon. member and opposition members trying to politicize the issue and cast political aspersions?
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats the enhanced agreement but does not address Geneva Convention violations.
Canada initiated an enhanced agreement with Afghanistan more than two and a half years ago.
- misdirectedAfghanistanMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer asserts no credible evidence of torture rather than addressing the Prime Minister's knowledge in 2006.
The reality is there is no credible evidence suggesting that any Canadian transfer of a Taliban terrorist has resulted in any torture.
- deflectedAfghanistanMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains document provision to witnesses but avoids addressing efforts to hide information.
It is common practice for current and former public servants to be given information to which they are privy to give testimony before the parliamentary committee.
- deflectedAfghanistanMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer refutes premise by quoting Mulroney instead of addressing admission request.
The member has made a complete misstatement of fact.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats prior position on documents and safety without addressing public inquiry call.
Mr. Mulroney testified before the committee not 24 hours ago that the government never transferred any captured Taliban where there was any realistic fear of torture.
- misdirectedAfghanistanMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks NDP by accusing them of believing soldiers abuse farmers rather than addressing inquiry request.
The member from the NDP, whom I have a great deal of respect for, seems to be happy to believe that Canadian soldiers are somehow arbitrarily rounding up farmers and taxi drivers and willingly sending them off to abuse.
- deflectedTax HarmonizationMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses tax plan by stating no intent to raise taxes but pivots to past GST cuts and NDP record.
Our government's first priority has been to cut taxes for working families.
- partly answeredNortelMrs. Alexandra Mendes (Liberal) asked Mr. Mike Lake (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shares outrage on bonuses and outlines pension measures but does not address Avaya sale or disabled employees specifically.
On the issue of pensions, our Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance has travelled the country over the course of the summer to hear from Canadians on this issue.
- deflectedNortelMrs. Alexandra Mendes (Liberal) asked Mr. Mike Lake (Conservative). substantive question.Answer notes outrage but shifts to consultations and attacks Liberal pension policy instead of addressing executive bonuses or employee support.
What is remarkable is that the member for Markham—Unionville said just a few short weeks ago, "The Liberals don't actually have a policy on pension reform".
- partly answeredEmploymentMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Mr. Mike Lake (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges layoffs and notes investments in aerospace but does not address calls for an aerospace strategy.
In fact, we have recently made a $350 million investment in Bombardier Aerospace for its CSeries program.
- answeredMuseumsMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly explains mediator role and conditions for arbitration to resolve the dispute.
a mediator has been working with the parties from before the strike began, and we are continuing to work with them and encouraging them to come to the table to resolve this issue.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Serge Cardin (Bloc) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). substantive question.The response defends the government's target but sidesteps the question about announcing a credible plan amid international criticism.
Why do opposition members want Canada to diverge from a North American target and instead choose a job-killing European target?
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Serge Cardin (Bloc) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses general policy without addressing the specific impact on Quebec exports.
This government will ensure that any treaty will include Canada's economic, geographic and industrial realities.
- misdirectedEmployment InsuranceMrs. Josée Beaudin (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the Bloc's voting record rather than addressing the rate injustice.
- partly answeredEmployment InsuranceMrs. Josée Beaudin (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.The response explains the rate adjustment but ignores the claim of preventing testimony and the scale of overpayment.
The contribution rate for workers there will be $1.36 instead of $1.73, which is affordable.
- deflectedGovernment AccountabilityGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defers to officers without addressing allegations of obstruction.
I think it is best to allow them to do their work independently, free from political interference.
- deflectedGovernment AccountabilityGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The response boasts about legislation instead of addressing the call for the minister to step down.
- partly answeredFederal PropertiesMs. Martha Hall Findlay (Liberal) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges awareness but provides no confirmation on the link to irregularities.
Public Works and Government Services is aware of these investigations, and I can make no further comment at this time.
- deflectedFederal PropertiesMs. Martha Hall Findlay (Liberal) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). substantive question.The response reiterates general commitments without providing the requested details.
We will continue along that road.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). substantive question.Answer lists northern funding but opens by attacking Liberal policy instead of directly addressing the plan query.
Since 2007 the federal government has invested over $85 million to help Canadians adapt to climate change, $21 million of which was specifically directed to communities in the north.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids the suspension threat and instead attacks opposition while claiming sole credit on climate action.
the fact is Canadians know the only party in the House that takes climate change seriously, that is actively working against climate change with our international partners, is this party right here.
- partly answeredAerospace IndustryMr. Daniel Paillé (Bloc) asked Mr. Mike Lake (Conservative). substantive question.Answer cites long-term aerospace investments but does not address the requested short-term measures for layoffs.
We have put $350 million toward Bombardier's CSeries program.
- deflectedAerospace IndustryMr. Daniel Paillé (Bloc) asked Mr. Mike Lake (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to praising Canada's overall economy and foreign comments rather than addressing an emergency short-term plan.
Just a couple of months ago France's finance minister, coming out of the G20 finance ministers meeting, said, "I think we can be inspired by the Canadian situation".
- answeredOlympic Winter GamesScott Brison (Liberal) asked Mr. Dean Del Mastro (Conservative). rhetorical question.The brief question appears to prompt details on the pavilion, which the answer directly supplies.
the Canada pavilion is on track to be completed for the start of the games.
- misdirectedOlympic Winter GamesMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Mr. Dean Del Mastro (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the American contract issue and instead attacks the questioner's attitude toward the Olympics.
I do not know why the member is not. I sure am.
- deflectedFinancial InstitutionsMr. Glenn Thibeault (NDP) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.Answer discusses consultation and business reactions but does not specify enforcement steps if the code is violated.
These developments will create a better future for merchants and help ensure a fair and transparent credit and debit market instead of just letting large industry players call all the shots.
- misdirectedOlympic Winter GamesMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer pivots to general Olympic security instead of addressing the specific missing human-trafficking training and funding.
The hon. member should be celebrating what this country is doing and what it will do in Vancouver.
- deflectedStatus of WomenAnita Neville (Liberal) asked Mrs. Sylvie Boucher (Conservative). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the question about the Prime Minister's agreement or denunciation by pivoting to general statements on opinions and personal choice.
our government has been clear on this subject: all members of Parliament have the right to their own opinion.
- partly answeredRoyal Canadian MintMr. Richard Nadeau (Bloc) asked Rob Merrifield (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the lack of theft and external audit but does not confirm or refute the claim of loss during refining.
There is an external audit that has provided all of the explanations of where the unaccountable gold is, and that is in the hands of the Auditor General for validation.
- answeredMuseumsMr. Claude Gravelle (NDP) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the legal requirement for both parties to agree before an arbitrator can be appointed.
Under the law, the Minister of Labour cannot appoint an arbiter unless both parties agree.
- deflectedConservative Party of CanadaAnita Neville (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer rejects the premise of a divide-and-conquer strategy with a single word but offers no further engagement or evidence.
- deflectedAgriculture and Agri-FoodMs. France Bonsant (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses general concerns and ongoing talks but ignores the specific false statement about Terminator technology.
we are concerned about any measure that interferes with the export of any agricultural product, including canola.
- misdirectedPoints of OrderDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Mr. Rick Dykstra (Conservative). rhetorical question.The question is rhetorical and the answer shifts to demanding an apology from another member rather than addressing the initial remark.
I know the banter and the discussion in the House sometimes gets heated up, but I think the good member for Kings—Hants would rise in his place, apologize and withdraw those remarks from question period.