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Wednesday, September 30, 2009 · sitting No. 87
Commons debates Canada-Colombia trade deal as most of day
The House spent the largest share of its time debating the Canada-Colombia Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act at second reading. New Democrat MP Libby Davies said paramilitary groups continue to murder trade unionists and cited the International Centre for Trade Union Rights report. Liberal MP Scott Brison replied that paramilitary groups have been disbanded and that the remaining violence stems from drug gangs rather than ideological conflict.
Question period featured repeated exchanges on the economy between Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff and Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Ignatieff cited Statistics Canada data showing the economy stalled in July and asked when the government would respond. Harper said growth had resumed in June and accused the opposition of seeking an unnecessary election.
Decided that day
- Canada-Colombia trade bill given third reading and passed
- Bill C-268 passed with minimum-sentence clause intact
- Amendment to delete clause 2 of C-268 defeated
- Bill C-304 given second reading and sent to committee
- Seven new bills introduced
From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard
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Who held the floor · 2009-09-30
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Other moments
Softwood Lumber
Bloc Québécois MP Pablo Rodriguez said a London Court of International Arbitration decision requires Canada to pay $68 million and asked whether the government would let the forestry industry collapse. International Trade Minister Stockwell Day replied that nearly $5 billion had already been repaid to Canadian producers under the agreement.
Read the exchangeTax Harmonization
Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe said the federal government is blocking a $2.6 billion transfer owed to Quebec under a 1992 agreement unless Quebec allows Revenue Canada to collect the QST. Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the same terms offered to other provinces remain available to Quebec.
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NDP Leader Jack Layton said the new harmonized sales tax will raise costs on everyday items and that the federal government bribed Ontario and British Columbia with $7 billion to accept it. Prime Minister Stephen Harper said only provincial governments impose provincial sales taxes and that the federal GST will stay at 5 per cent.
Read the exchangeInfrastructure
Liberal MP Gerard Kennedy said British Columbia Conservative MPs received three times as much infrastructure money as opposition members. Transport Minister John Baird said the largest single grant in the country had gone to a clean-energy project in an opposition riding.
Read the exchangeAfghanistan
NDP MP Jack Harris said the government is preparing to keep troops in Kandahar past 2011. Defence Minister Peter MacKay said the government will respect the March 2008 House motion that ends the combat mission that year.
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- deflectedThe EconomyMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to criticizing opposition and election talk instead of addressing the July stall or recovery timeline.
That is why the House of Commons needs to be at work on the economy, passing measures for the unemployed and not out forcing an unnecessary and wasteful election.
- partly answeredThe EconomyMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses the $1B cost and new grievances by comparing to prior Liberal disputes but does not speak to current forestry layoffs.
That is not pleasant news, but it is sure a lot different from the $5 billion that the previous government had tied up in disputes with the United States.
- answeredThe EconomyMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states the government's priority is protecting children and notes the bill introduced, addressing the question on MP views.
However, our priority continues to be to protect children from tobacco.
- partly answeredThe EconomyMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.Answer affirms the bill protects children but acknowledges industry concerns without resolving the caucus split.
Having said that, members from the Quebec City area are also concerned about the impact on Rothmans and we are confident that we will find a solution.
- deflectedSoftwood LumberMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). loaded question.Answer defends the agreement by referencing past repayments but ignores the new $68M penalty and Quebec-specific impact.
One thing is very important, however: after the agreement was signed by this government, close to $5 billion was repaid to the industry here in Canada
- answeredTax HarmonizationMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer confirms negotiations are ongoing and offers the same terms as other provinces, directly addressing the stalled talks.
We are able to offer the same terms to Quebec, and the Minister of Finance is in the process of negotiating with his provincial counterpart.
- deflectedTax HarmonizationMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats the model from previous government but does not address why conditions changed or the Quebec nation recognition angle.
Our government is clear. We are prepared to negotiate the same terms and the same contract with Quebec as with the other provinces
- answeredSoftwood LumberMr. Claude Guimond (Bloc) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Answer states the tribunal ruling applies to the industry as a whole and the government cannot alter it, addressing the Quebec penalty request.
It is not within our power to decide otherwise. The tribunal made that clear.
- deflectedSoftwood LumberMr. Claude Guimond (Bloc) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses general industry support instead of addressing the specific assurance on fines and Quebec liability.
our government is continuing to provide plenty of support to the industry.
- deflectedTaxationJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts focus to NDP tax positions rather than addressing the HST or death tax question.
Yesterday, the members of the NDP were cheering and demanding a 7% GST.
- deflectedTaxationJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the HST signing question by attacking NDP tax history instead.
The NDP is not good at fighting taxes.
- deflectedTaxationJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the aboriginal exemption query and pivots to criticizing NDP tax stances.
I am a serious guy, but I do have trouble keeping a straight face when the NDP claims to be fighting taxes.
- misdirectedInfrastructureMr. Gerard Kennedy (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes infrastructure spending while ignoring the pork-barrelling and trust question.
I am always excited to get up and talk about the great infrastructure investments that this government is making in the great province of British Columbia.
- misdirectedInfrastructureMr. Gerard Kennedy (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the asker personally and cites unrelated quotes instead of explaining funding allocations.
the member for Parkdale—High Park will always be remembered for making a great contribution to democracy and to the Conservative Party by his actions at the Liberal leadership convention in Montreal some three years ago.
- deflectedInfrastructureMrs. Bonnie Crombie (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer insults the asker and cites local news instead of addressing the delay in providing numbers.
there are very few things that have been more un-Canadian than the actions of the member opposite.
- deflectedInfrastructureMrs. Bonnie Crombie (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer promotes projects and cooperation but avoids opening the books or explaining allocation disparities.
We are working constructively with the Liberal Government of Ontario to make things happen.
- deflectedCanada-U.S. RelationsMr. Serge Cardin (Bloc) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses provincial agreements and actions taken but avoids addressing whether the core issue is the provisions in Obama's plan.
We now have an agreement between our provinces and territories, which, in our opinion, meets the requirements of the buy American act.
- deflectedCanada-U.S. RelationsMr. Serge Cardin (Bloc) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer praises the process and Quebec's premier but does not address potential negative impacts of full reciprocity on small businesses.
I particularly appreciate the work of the Premier of Quebec, Jean Charest, who showed leadership amongst the provinces and encouraged them all to sign the agreement.
- misdirectedLabourMs. Nicole Demers (Bloc) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner for spreading false information instead of stating whether a preventive withdrawal program will be implemented.
the member is spreading erroneous and false information about the rights of pregnant women who are in the federal jurisdiction workforce.
- deflectedLabourMs. Nicole Demers (Bloc) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.The answer reiterates existing rights to refuse work but does not address implementing preventive withdrawal coverage equivalent to CSST for pregnant women.
If they feel in any way any risk to their safety or the safety of their fetuses, they are able to discontinue work.
- partly answeredAutomotive IndustryMr. Francis Valeriote (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains CSCF leveraging and examples but sidesteps the direct question of whether the minister will keep his word on rollout timing.
Private investors and financial institutions have been leveraging the CSCF account in order to ensure there is a market for these kinds of ABS securities.
- misdirectedAutomotive IndustryMr. Francis Valeriote (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the member for seeking an election rather than addressing why the credit facility funds are not yet disbursed.
If he would actually spend his time researching rather than trying to force an unnecessary and expensive election, maybe he would have better questions.
- partly answeredHealthAnita Neville (Liberal) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). loaded question.The answer acknowledges the incident as insensitive and outlines next steps but does not address when or if an apology will be issued.
I have said that what happened before was insensitive and offensive and I have asked my deputy minister to investigate the matter.
- deflectedHealthAnita Neville (Liberal) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists meetings and claims a plan exists but does not reconcile the 90% figure with the grand chief's statement or commit to a national plan.
we have been working with the provinces, territories and first nations communities to develop the pandemic plan.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Denies allegations but pivots to cooperation and national security without addressing hiding torture info.
the reality is that is simply not true.
- misdirectedAfghanistanMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Accuses questioner of falsehoods and redirects to reading the record instead of addressing mission extension.
It is amazing how many falsehoods he was able to get into one question.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.Shifts focus to carbon exchange without addressing electric car incentives or climate denial premise.
We will develop an integrated North American carbon exchange system.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.Attacks opposition's past agreement rather than addressing green economy aid or California standards.
I am surprised today by the change in direction of the opposition, which wants a continental system without the continent.
- answeredAfghanistanBob Rae (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Directly affirms adherence to the motion on troop redeployment.
Yes, we are sticking to that motion.
- deflectedAfghanistanBob Rae (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Gives yes but implies asker misunderstands without clarifying compatibility of statements.
He might not understand what is written, but we all understand that is what it means.
- misdirectedAutomotive IndustryMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Turns to criticizing NDP voting record instead of explaining action on plant closure.
Of course, members of the NDP voted against all of that, as they vote against anything that will help save our economy.
- partly answeredInternational AidMs. Judy Wasylycia-Leis (NDP) asked Bev Oda (Conservative). substantive question.Mentions assessing needs but avoids specifics on DART availability or exact aid amounts.
Currently we are assessing the actual needs, the appropriate medicines and what will be needed for those in all areas facing the storms, the tsunami and the floods that are being experienced.
- partly answeredAgriculture and Agri-FoodWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Answer lists actions taken and next steps but avoids committing to the October 9 deadline asked about.
We are in the consultation phase on the WTO challenge.
- deflectedAirport FacilitiesMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer offers to follow up later without providing any status or explanation for the lack of support.
I would certainly be happy to take the member's renewed interest in the file back to my officials.
- misdirectedNuclear DisarmamentMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to nuclear energy exports and non-proliferation agreements instead of addressing disarmament or verification efforts.
Canada has a lot to offer in that particular aspect.