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Thursday, October 1, 2009 · sitting No. 88
Liberals move non-confidence motion in supply debate
The House spent the largest portion of its sitting on a motion by Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff that the House has lost confidence in the government. Ignatieff said the Conservatives have lost control of public finances and have abandoned many Canadians. Conservative minister John Baird replied that the opposition leader had supported the government for years and urged him to consider the needs of Canadians beyond his own riding.
In Question Period, Liberal MP Ken Dryden charged that infrastructure stimulus funds were directed disproportionately to Conservative ridings. Minister John Baird said spending decisions addressed the highest unemployment rates and cited major projects in several opposition ridings, including the Spadina subway extension in Dryden's constituency.
NDP leader Jack Layton asked whether Canadian troops would remain in Afghanistan past 2011 without a further House vote. Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the military mission ends in 2011 and repeated that deployments require House approval.
Decided that day
- Confidence motion defeated
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Who held the floor · 2009-10-01
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Tax Harmonization
Bloc Québécois leader Gilles Duceppe said Ottawa was reneging on the 1992 GST agreement by adding new conditions for compensation to Quebec. Prime Minister Stephen Harper replied that Quebec's existing arrangement differs from other provinces and negotiations seek a uniform contract.
Read the exchangeAfghanistan
NDP leader Jack Layton said the government had blocked diplomat Richard Colvin from testifying before the Military Police Complaints Commission on Afghan detainee treatment. Minister Peter MacKay said the government cooperates with the commission within the limits set by the National Defence Act and a Federal Court ruling.
Read the exchangeAerospace Industry
Bloc Québécois MP Jean Dorion asked why the government would not adopt an aerospace policy for Quebec comparable to support given Ontario's auto sector after Pratt & Whitney announced further layoffs in Longueuil. Minister Tony Clement said Pratt & Whitney plans more than $500 million in Quebec investment over coming years and federal research funding has doubled.
Read the exchangeSeniors
Conservative MP Dean Allison asked the government to note its record on seniors issues on the United Nations International Day of Older Persons. Minister Diane Finley listed pension-income splitting, two increases to the age credit and a rise in the GIS exemption from $500 to $3,500.
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- deflectedGovernment PoliciesMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Question presupposes negative ideology and demands admission; answer shifts to election call and bill promotion without addressing premise.
the opposition leader is looking for a reason to trigger an election no one wants.
- deflectedGovernment PoliciesMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). rhetorical question.Question asserts values betrayal without seeking specific info; answer pivots to urging alternatives and rejecting election.
I invite the Leader of the Opposition to present those alternatives, if he really has any, so that we can debate them in the House, instead of triggering an election no one wants.
- deflectedGovernment PoliciesMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes partisan abuse of trust; answer avoids by claiming election motive and listing measures instead.
This government has important measures before the House, tax measures to help the Canadian economy, to help homeowners and the population.
- misdirectedInfrastructureKen Dryden (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Question asks about riding-based funding disparity; answer defends overall policy and cites one project in asker's riding.
It is the Spadina subway expansion.
- partly answeredInfrastructureKen Dryden (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Question challenges per-riding equity; answer gives examples of high-need areas but does not compare all ridings or address formula.
One of the highest per capita infrastructure stimulus grants is being made in that community.
- answeredTax HarmonizationMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Question accuses reneging on 1992 deal; answer directly states respect for existing agreement and ongoing negotiation for new terms.
We pay Quebec every year to administer the federal GST.
- answeredTax HarmonizationMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Question demands compensation parity and accuses reneging; answer explains differing contract terms and negotiation goal.
All of these contracts, except for Quebec's, are the same.
- misdirectedIntergovernmental RelationsMr. Jean-Yves Laforest (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.Question lists specific shortfalls and demands settlement; answer blames prior Liberal/PQ era and claims resolution without addressing amounts.
If the Bloc still wants to minimize that to cause trouble, it can go ahead, but one thing is certain: we will be building a better federation for Quebeckers.
- deflectedIntergovernmental RelationsMr. Jean-Yves Laforest (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer accuses disinformation and cites rising transfers without addressing the Ontario-Quebec inequity comparison.
So the other side of the House should stop engaging in disinformation.
- answeredAfghanistanJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly confirms the mission ends in 2011 and restates the government's position on House votes.
The military mission in Afghanistan will end in 2011.
- misdirectedAfghanistanJack Layton (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner's facts and pivots to legal limits rather than addressing the refusal to allow Colvin to testify.
as is so often the case, the leader of the New Democratic Party has his facts completely wrong.
- deflectedAfghanistanJack Layton (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats legal compliance claims and implies the asker lacks government experience without addressing muzzling.
He may not understand that, but this is an arm's-length process and we are respecting that process.
- misdirectedForestry IndustryMrs. Alexandra Mendes (Liberal) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer blames global crisis and past Liberal inaction instead of addressing the softwood lumber payment and current forestry aid.
The only way the Liberals supported the forestry industry was to abandon forestry workers from 2000 to 2006
- partly answeredAerospace IndustryMrs. Alexandra Mendes (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the plant closure and transfer but does not address the lack of an aerospace action plan.
The activities will be transferred, however, to other leading Pratt & Whitney facilities on the south shore.
- partly answeredEmploymentMr. Gerard Kennedy (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer provides a revised job number but does not specify how many were actually created with infrastructure funds to date.
the job figure now is about 220,000, not 190,000 and that is--
- deflectedEmploymentMr. Gerard Kennedy (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer redirects to reports and work-sharing without addressing the specific job-creation shortfall or slush-fund allegation.
I suggest the member for Parkdale--High Park might want to read them.
- deflectedAerospace IndustryMr. Jean Dorion (Bloc) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights existing investments instead of addressing the request for a new aerospace policy.
Pratt & Whitney's real investment in Quebec over the next few years is expected to exceed $500 million.
- deflectedAerospace IndustryMr. Jean Dorion (Bloc) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer calls the premise false and lists general spending rather than explaining differential treatment of industries.
that is totally false. There is an announcement in Montreal for CAE and other aerospace companies.
- deflectedLabourMs. Nicole Demers (Bloc) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses the right to refuse work but does not address salary differences or CSST coverage.
she is entitled under the law to refuse to go to work.
- deflectedLabourMs. Nicole Demers (Bloc) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats the refusal-to-work point without addressing an agreement with Quebec on preventive withdrawal.
she has the right under the law to refuse to go to work and continue to be paid until a determination is made.
- misdirectedInfrastructureHedy Fry (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer corrects Liberal figures and attacks their math instead of addressing the fairness of fund allocation.
the Liberal math is quite interesting.
- misdirected2010 Winter Olympic GamesHedy Fry (Liberal) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies involvement then attacks the Liberals for criticizing companies rather than addressing politicization of the Olympics.
Why do they not support our athletes while they are training to win gold at home
- deflectedHealthCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). loaded question.The answer quotes a Liberal and affirms pride in the system without denouncing the senator.
Keep Canada out of the U.S. debate...and hope our friends in the U.S. will find their own answers to the questions that lie at the heart of [their] health care.
- deflectedHealthCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists transfer payments without addressing defense of the system against external criticism.
we have continued to increase the transfers to the provinces and territories in the last year by 6%.
- misdirectedHarmonized Sales TaxMrs. Carol Hughes (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the heating tax question and instead attacks NDP inconsistency.
Perhaps the member for the NDP can explain that contradiction to the House.
- misdirectedHarmonized Sales TaxMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids confirming Quebec payment and instead attacks the asker's past record.
What is this inconsistency? What is this lack of understanding of the process that the provincial governments follow, including the government that he was part of?
- deflectedScience and TechnologyMr. Robert Vincent (Bloc) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses the email inaccuracy but pivots to funding totals and Bloc voting record.
the research council in question has clearly stated that the email is inaccurate.
- misdirectedScience and TechnologyMr. Robert Vincent (Bloc) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the science policy accusation and instead criticizes the Bloc's votes on funding.
Why are those members voting against help for scientists and students in their own province?
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMr. Jean-Claude D'Amours (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Answer discusses general EI help for long-term workers but does not address seasonal workers' eligibility.
It is often these people who have the hardest time finding a new job.
- partly answeredEmployment InsuranceMr. Jean-Claude D'Amours (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Answer states five extra weeks were delivered for all workers but does not explain exclusion of seasonal workers.
we have already announced and delivered five extra weeks for all workers in Canada, up to a new maximum of 50 weeks per claim.
- answeredNatural ResourcesMs. Olivia Chow (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states that government resources must not be used for political fundraising.
Such practices are totally inappropriate and totally unacceptable.
- misdirectedToronto Port AuthorityMs. Olivia Chow (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to defending the airport instead of addressing board appointments or fundraising.
the basis of the member's concern about the Toronto Port Authority is that it operates an airport.
- deflectedNatural ResourcesMr. Paul Szabo (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates a general principle on resources without addressing the request for investigations.
government resources, those of taxpayers, of agencies, boards and commissions, are not to be used for partisan political fundraising.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses US collaboration but provides no timeline for introducing legislation.
our government will make sure that our policies protect the environment without compromising our economic recovery.
- partly answeredEmployment InsuranceMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the promise but gives no expected delivery date.
We made that promise. We will deliver the goods, and when we do so, I hope that the NDP will support us.
- answeredInternational CooperationMs. Raymonde Folco (Liberal) asked Bev Oda (Conservative). substantive question.The answer confirms contributions have been directed to the francophone countries mentioned.
we have made contributions through the World Food Programme, particularly directed to the francophone countries that are being affected by the disasters.
- partly answeredBusiness of the HouseRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Jay Hill (Conservative). substantive question.The answer outlines some schedule but attacks the opposition motion instead of fully addressing the NAFO debate request.
provided the opposition motion of today is defeated, we will begin debate on Bill C-51
- deflectedPoints of OrderThe Speaker (Liberal) asked Jay Hill (Conservative). substantive question.The answer accepts the ruling but immediately raises a new unrelated point of order.
I might not agree with it but I accept it.