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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 · sitting No. 11
Commons devotes day to economic statement amid coalition challenge
The House spent the majority of its time on government orders debating the economic and fiscal statement. Members from all parties addressed the update's measures while raising points of order on relevance and the emerging opposition agreement.
Question period featured repeated exchanges on the proposed Liberal-NDP-Bloc coalition. Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion asked Prime Minister Stephen Harper to reconcile past remarks on avoiding votes with current events and Harper replied that a mandate must come from the people rather than Quebec separatists.
Further questions addressed employment insurance changes, support for older workers and regional development funding in Quebec.
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Who held the floor · 2008-12-02
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Opposition Coalition Proposal
Conservative MP Scott Reid noted that a 2004 letter from opposition leaders sought consultation before dissolution but produced no lasting coalition once the Address in Reply passed.
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Liberal MP Marlene Jennings and NDP MP Thomas Mulcair asserted that two Canadian flags were present at the coalition signing and called on the Prime Minister to withdraw his contrary statement.
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Liberal MP Dan McTeague pressed Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon on delays in evacuating Canadians and the minister replied that chartered flights had already begun.
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Independent MP Bill Casey questioned whether the economic statement would override the offshore accord escalator and Parliamentary Secretary Ted Menzies assured him the cumulative best-of guarantee remains intact.
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Heritage Minister James Moore stated that the government increased arts and culture spending by 8 percent to $2.3 billion while the Bloc Québécois voted against the increase.
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- misdirectedPrime Minister of CanadaStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Harper attacks the Liberal-Bloc deal instead of naming the speaker of the quoted words.
The deal that the leader of the Liberal Party has made with the separatists is a betrayal of the voters of this country
- deflectedPrime Minister of CanadaStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Harper repeats the mandate talking point and avoids confirming or addressing his own past statement.
if one wants to be Prime Minister one gets one's mandate from the Canadian people and not from Quebec separatists
- deflectedPrime Minister of CanadaStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Harper shifts to criticizing the coalition rather than answering whether he will allow a confidence vote.
not a single member of the House, not even a member of the Bloc, received a mandate to have a government in which the separatists would be part of the coalition
- partly answeredThe EconomyJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Flaherty lists specific measures but does not address the PBO assessment that past tax cuts are exhausted.
We have acted, Mr. Speaker, and we are acting
- misdirectedThe EconomyJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Flaherty pivots to attacking the coalition and its spending plan instead of responding to the PBO critique.
The only economic plan we have heard from the separatist coalition is a $30 billion spending program
- deflectedThe EconomyCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). rhetorical question.The exchange consists of sarcastic remarks rather than any substantive question or answer on policy.
Carolyn, relax, you are going to hurt yourself
- misdirectedGovernment of CanadaMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Harper quotes a separatist statement instead of addressing responsibility for the political crisis or the coalition question.
The applause from the Bloc shows why this country needs a government that supports Canada, the best country in the world
- misdirectedGovernment of CanadaMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.Paradis accuses the Bloc of betrayal rather than discussing the government's compromises or loss of confidence.
This is what he has just done: signed a blank cheque, handed over his seats to the Liberal leader, betrayed the people who elected him
- deflectedGovernment of CanadaMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes tax cuts and stimulus instead of addressing the claimed loss of confidence.
the member of the separatist coalition opposite surely has read about the tax reductions and he knows the stimulus that this provides to the economy
- deflectedGovernment of CanadaMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer criticizes the questioning style and lists policies rather than addressing opposition support.
the strident questioning does not help the economy
- misdirectedGovernment of CanadaJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP leader's coalition intentions instead of addressing public confidence in the government.
Instead of being willing to co-operate, the leader of the NDP has admitted that from the beginning of this Parliament his sole objective was to form a coalition with the separatists
- misdirectedGovernment of CanadaJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the coalition's lack of a flag and separatist ties rather than addressing the confidence vote.
They had to be photographed without it because a member of their coalition does not even believe in the country
- misdirectedGovernment of CanadaJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer quotes a Bloc letter to attack the coalition instead of addressing the economic plan or confidence.
, this government, this party has never and will never sign a document like that
- misdirectedGovernment of CanadaStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer reframes the issue as a choice for the people instead of addressing the accusation of lies.
If the leader of the Liberal Party wants to become Prime Minister with the support of the separatists, he needs to put that option to the people of Canada
- deflectedGovernment of CanadaStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer is cut off and does not engage with the claim that the Prime Minister failed to address the economic crisis.
the leader of the Liberal Party--
- misdirectedGovernment of CanadaStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer ignores the unity claim and instead attacks the Liberal leader over a coalition.
He wants to turn his back on the traditions of his own party and he wants to form a coalition with the Quebec separatists.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMrs. Josée Beaudin (Bloc) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to criticizing Bloc accounting instead of addressing the EI waiting period or confidence loss.
With accounting like that, the Bloc coup is unacceptable, the Bloc price is too high.
- deflectedOlder WorkersMr. Yves Lessard (Bloc) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats the Bloc price line rather than addressing the older workers program or confidence.
We have extended it until 2012 but the Bloc price is too high, the Bloc coup is unacceptable.
- misdirectedStatus of WomenMs. Nicole Demers (Bloc) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to attacking the prior Liberal record instead of addressing the court challenges or new government claim.
under the previous Liberal government, women waited 15 years to get pay equity complaints resolved.
- misdirectedStatus of WomenMs. Johanne Deschamps (Bloc) asked Helena Guergis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ends by attacking the separatist coalition rather than addressing funding cuts or muzzling.
I note that women across this country did not elect a separatist coalition.
- deflectedRegional DevelopmentMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer mocks the timing of the question instead of addressing the funding cuts or credibility.
It has taken more than 10 oral question periods for a Liberal Party MP to notice that there was economic development in the regions of Quebec.
- misdirectedRegional DevelopmentMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer personally insults the asker about space flight instead of addressing the patronage allegation.
perhaps my colleague, who has often flown into space, does not have his feet on the ground in our regions.
- partly answeredArts and CultureMs. Raymonde Folco (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the spending record on arts but does not directly address the confidence question or broken promises.
We increased the spending on arts and culture in this country by 8%.
- deflectedArts and CultureMs. Raymonde Folco (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses funding but pivots to attacking Liberals instead of confidence question.
The Liberals voted against the money intended for the celebrations in Trois-Rivières.
- misdirectedThe EconomyMr. Tony Martin (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to past Liberal actions and avoids addressing social spending stimulus.
We are not going to balance the budget on the backs of the provinces, like the Liberal government did in the 1990s
- misdirectedThe EconomyMr. Tony Martin (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks NDP plan and coalition rather than responding to poverty or stimulus measures.
That is the NDP plan, supported by the separatists, supported by the Liberals.
- deflectedArts and CultureMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats funding stats then attacks Bloc instead of addressing Olympic torch or confidence loss.
The Bloc voted against that. It is against the arts, against culture, against Canada, but for the Liberal Party.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks Bloc on Kyoto shift instead of addressing emissions trading or confidence.
I am surprised that the Bloc abandons its principles so easily.
- deflectedThailandDan McTeague (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Answer notes actions taken but deflects with coalition attack and omits explanation of delay.
while my hon. colleague was building a coalition with the separatists, we were working.
- deflectedThailandDan McTeague (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Answer lists flights arranged but again pivots to coalition attack without addressing piecemeal plan or seniors.
while my colleague was forming strategic alliances with the Bloc Québécois, with the sovereignists, we were acting.
- misdirectedThe EconomyMr. Bruce Hyer (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). loaded question.Answer mentions trust fund then attacks coalition instead of northern jobs or stimulus.
I have to say that the socialist-separatist coalition's concern today is quite self-serving and does nothing more than to indicate there is an attack on Canada
- deflectedThe EconomyMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer avoids the confidence question by citing a 2008 funding announcement instead of addressing recent stimulus or mill shutdowns.
We acted quickly. We acted decisively. We continue to stand up for Canadians.