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Monday, March 3, 2008 · sitting No. 58

Commons debates budget as Liberals press Cadman bribe claim

The House spent the largest share of its time on debate of budget 2008 under Government Orders. Conservative members defended the plan's tax reductions, debt repayment and targeted industry support while opposition members questioned its environmental measures and priorities for families.

Question Period was dominated by exchanges on ethics. Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion pressed Prime Minister Stephen Harper on allegations of a million-dollar offer to MP Chuck Cadman while Harper accused the Liberals of making unfounded criminal claims.

New Democratic Leader Jack Layton asked Harper to fire his chief of staff over reported interference in the U.S. presidential primaries concerning NAFTA amendments.

Decided that day

  • Motion urging government to end delays passed
  • Director of Public Prosecutions appointment approved
  • Opposition amendment defeated

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Who held the floor · 2008-03-03

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 45%, opposition 55% of the words spokenPrivate membersGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 11:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:0018:00Last speech 19:10Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 10 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
64Budget inches ahead while questions go astrayThe House spent most of its time on the budget and ethics, passed two motions and advanced several bills. Question period produced few direct answers and four calls to order.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. misdirected
    EthicsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Harper ignores the bribe question and attacks Dion's accusations instead.The truth is that this will prove to be in court the biggest mistake the leader of the Liberal Party has ever made.
  2. deflected
    EthicsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Harper again pivots to Liberal attacks without addressing the tape or knowledge of the offer.What is more, last week, the leader of the Liberal Party and his party posted allegations of criminal conduct on my part on a website.
  3. partly answered
    EthicsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Harper correctly notes government does not direct police but evades the core question about his knowledge.the Leader of the Opposition should know that the government does not direct the activity of police authorities.
  4. deflected
    EthicsMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Moore changes subject to a Liberal scandal and denies facts without engaging the tape evidence.the only financial inducement to change a vote was offered to the member for Newmarket—Aurora and we know what she did with that vote.
  5. deflected
    EthicsMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Moore dismisses the question by claiming facts are invented and repeats denial without addressing the tape.the Liberals can invent their policy, but they cannot invent the facts.
  6. partly answered
    EthicsMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Harper clarifies the offer was only about rejoining caucus but sidesteps the May 17 meeting distinction.Chuck Cadman was very clear. The party representatives asked Mr. Cadman to rejoin the Conservative caucus and therefore to obtain the Conservative nomination.
  7. deflected
    EthicsMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Harper restates prior answer and legality of caucus offer without addressing the criminal offence claim.It is quite proper to have someone who voted regularly with the Conservative Party in the Conservative caucus.
  8. deflected
    EthicsMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Moore denies any financial offer and restates the candidate offer without engaging the tape quote.no such offer was made. The only offer presented to Mr. Cadman was the one the Prime Minister talked about.
  9. deflected
    EthicsMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer cites Cadman's prior statements instead of addressing new family evidence presented.Perhaps my colleague has not yet heard the news. Perhaps he should listen to what Mrs. Cadman said today.
  10. deflected
    TradeJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses embassy statement but avoids question on firing chief of staff or interference.The Government of Canada does not condone this and certainly regrets any implication.
  11. deflected
    TradeJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer mocks the premise of interference rather than addressing NAFTA amendment or standing up for families.I am a little bit amused by the question from the leader of the NDP who is suggesting that we are all so powerful we could interfere in the American election and pick the president.
  12. deflected
    EthicsMr. Brian Murphy (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer reads full interview quote but does not address the claim of twisting words or the specific meeting with PM.She then asked, "You had a meeting with the Prime Minister prior to the vote? Did he offer you a deal?" He said, "No, absolutely nothing.
  13. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Brian Murphy (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to attacking Liberals for timing instead of clarifying what the financial support constituted.If the Liberals are really so outraged, why did they sit on this story for a year?
  14. answered
    EthicsMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly denies any life insurance offer and cites the three attendees' statements.Each of the three people at that meeting all clearly said that no such offer was made.
  15. deflected
    EthicsMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer dismisses the issue as a conspiracy and repeats prior denials without addressing the 2005 non-denial.the Liberals have this incredible way of taking a little bit of this and a little bit of that and, as I have said, trying to mash it together and turn it into some vast conspiracy.
  16. partly answered
    Bill C-10Mrs. Maria Mourani (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.Answer notes prior government origin and SODEC measures but does not commit to immediate correction of the clause.This measure was announced in 2003 by the previous government. It was reintroduced in 2006 and received support from all the opposition parties.
  17. misdirected
    Bill C-10Mrs. Maria Mourani (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the Bloc Québécois for voting without reading the bill instead of addressing the request for an amendment.However, I presume that, as usual in the Bloc Québécois, they voted without even reading the bill.
  18. partly answered
    Securities IndustryMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the plan for a single commission and respect for jurisdictions but does not address focusing on economic crimes.a single commission would provide better enforcement of the acts and regulations.
  19. misdirected
    Securities IndustryMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). rhetorical question.The question is an accusation rather than a query, and the answer responds by attacking the Bloc's position on exchanges.it is somewhat strange that, at the same time that the TSX and the Montreal Exchange are getting together willingly, the Bloc advocates for the location of a national carbon exchange in the city of Montreal at the same time that the member opposite argues against a common securities regulator for Canada.
  20. deflected
    EthicsJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The question assumes meetings and offers occurred; the answer restates prior statements without engaging the May 17 meeting claim.Doug Finley and Tom Flanagan have publicly stated that they did not meet with Mr. Cadman on May 17.
  21. deflected
    EthicsJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the claims as conspiracies and restates the only offer was candidate support, avoiding the book and widow statements.They cannot develop a conspiracy that is devoid of facts and the facts on the table are clear: there was no such offer.
  22. misdirected
    EthicsKen Dryden (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberals for calling Cadman a liar and questions their motives rather than addressing the differing statements to family versus TV.the member for York Centre may want to call Chuck Cadman a liar in what he said on TV but we will not call Chuck Cadman a liar.
  23. misdirected
    EthicsKen Dryden (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer accuses the member of lacking guts to repeat the claim outside the House instead of addressing the resignation implication.it is one thing for a member of Parliament to get up in this place and accuse somebody of a crime under parliamentary privilege but if that member has the guts and he believes in what he is saying he should say it outside the House of Commons where people can defend themselves.
  24. deflected
    EthicsMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts blame to the opposition for delaying the appointment rather than agreeing or refusing to assign an independent investigator.I know the resistance we received in moving forward with the appointment earlier did not come from this government; it came from that party over there.
  25. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Joe Comartin (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids directing independent counsel and instead pivots to attacking the Liberal Party leadership.I have no doubt this matter will probably end up in court, but the people answering charges will be the leadership of the Liberal Party.
  26. deflected
    Federal-Provincial RelationsJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer gives a vague non-response without addressing working with Ontario or ending bickering.Mr. Speaker, the reality is a question of fact.
  27. misdirected
    Federal-Provincial RelationsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer insults the asker for being noisy then shifts to attacking Ontario policies instead of addressing the rhetorical jab.Mr. Speaker, the member for Wascana is being very noisy today.
  28. deflected
    Federal-Provincial RelationsJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites facts and quotes the asker but does not address why the minister is not helping Ontario families.
  29. deflected
    Arts and CultureMauril Bélanger (Liberal) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes prior government action and questions the asker rather than naming who was consulted on new guidelines.Our government pursued them in 2006, and received the support of all the parties in this House.
  30. misdirected
    Arts and CultureMauril Bélanger (Liberal) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The answer accuses the asker of hypocrisy and pivots to a loaded question about pornography instead of listing consulted parties.that is pure hypocrisy on the part of the member opposite
  31. answered
    TransportMr. Mario Laframboise (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states federal participation in updating the study with Quebec and Ontario.The Government of Canada is actively participating in this initiative.
  32. deflected
    TransportMr. Mario Laframboise (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims no request received and attacks the Bloc instead of confirming concrete support for the project.We know full well that the Leader of the Bloc Québécois has always preferred to favour the State of New York over the rest of Canada.
  33. deflected
    Fisheries and OceansLawrence MacAulay (Liberal) asked Loyola Hearn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer affirms opposition to the text and notes its long history but avoids committing to fighting the specific WTO challenges or instructing negotiators.We certainly will stand up. Not only Canada but every fishing nation in the WTO would never go along with that stuff.
  34. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends sequestration and past spending but ignores the question's core demand to redirect funds from polluters to conservation for families.we do not need to take any lessons from the NDP.
  35. partly answered
    The BudgetMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists federal health transfers but does not address the specific need for home care and long-term care investments to end hallway medicine.in budget 2006 we added $1.1 billion of federal transfers for health care across the country.
  36. misdirected
    AgricultureWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to attacking the questioner's past statements instead of addressing whether the minister consulted the Wheat Board as required by law.It doesn't matter what politicians or bureaucrats think about grain marketing. What matters is what farmers think and want
  37. partly answered
    AfghanistanMs. Louise Thibault (Independent) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer promises future accountability after a vote but does not explain concrete current mechanisms to ensure transparency on the Afghanistan mission objectives.I can assure the hon. member of this House that we will do our utmost to have this vote as soon as possible.
  38. deflected
    Points of OrderShawn Murphy (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer raises a new point of order about insulting language rather than responding to the apology or retraction.I therefore ask the leader of the Bloc Québécois to withdraw his comments.
  39. answered
    Points of OrderMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Mr. Luc Harvey (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer directly withdraws the unparliamentary remark as requested.