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Friday, February 29, 2008 · sitting No. 57
Liberals press Conservatives on Cadman insurance offer during question period
Liberal MP Ralph Goodale asked whether Conservatives offered life insurance benefits to Chuck Cadman in exchange for his vote on the 2005 budget. Conservative MP James Moore answered that no offer was made, noting that Cadman himself stated this on two national television interviews.
Goodale then cited a 2005 taped interview in which the prime minister confirmed an offer was discussed regarding financial insecurity. Moore responded that the member for Wascana misrepresented the remarks and that all three people at the meeting confirmed no deal was offered.
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- answeredEthicsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly denies any offer was made in response to the specific insurance question.
Mr. Speaker, no offer was made.
- deflectedEthicsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer accuses the asker of misrepresenting statements rather than addressing the PM's knowledge of an offence.
the member for Wascana is, as usual, misrepresenting what the then leader of the opposition did say.
- deflectedEthicsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to praising Cadman and repeating denials instead of addressing the taped conversation or secret concerns.
I wish the Liberals would go back to where they began on this file, accept that Chuck Cadman was an honest and honourable man, that no deal was offered, because that is the truth.
- deflectedEthicsRaymond Simard (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question as invented stories and reiterates the denial without addressing the PM's responsibilities.
my colleague can invent such stories, but facts are facts, and the fact is, no offers were made to Mr. Cadman.
- misdirectedEthicsRaymond Simard (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks Liberals for their own meetings with Cadman instead of addressing the PM's duty regarding the alleged bribe.
They had their own meetings with Chuck Cadman when they were trying to persuade him to cross the floor to the Liberal Party and to vote their way on the budget.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies the offer and warns against attacking Cadman's integrity but does not address the contradiction with the PM's statements.
my colleague should not attack Mr. Cadman's integrity, because Mr. Cadman himself said that no offer was made here.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats the three-person denial without addressing the PM's taped confirmation of financial considerations.
there were three people at that meeting, and my Bloc Québécois colleague was not among them.
- deflectedEthicsMs. Pauline Picard (Bloc) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer distinguishes meetings but avoids confirming whether any financial offer constituted attempted bribery.
What she is talking about, in terms of impropriety, is in fact not true.
- deflectedEthicsMs. Pauline Picard (Bloc) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies premise of any offer instead of addressing legality of a hypothetical bribe.
Mr. Speaker, the problem with the questions is that there was no offer.
- partly answeredArts and CultureMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Jim Abbott (Conservative). substantive question.Answer confirms no new barriers but restates existing law without directly assuring on guidelines.
filmmakers are free to make movies as they see fit as long as they are within the law.
- deflectedArts and CultureMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Jim Abbott (Conservative). loaded question.Answer dismisses concerns as nothing new and attacks the questioner rather than addressing censorship guidelines.
it is regrettable that the NDP member is trying to make something out of nothing.
- deflectedEthicsHedy Fry (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer reframes meeting as recruitment effort and cites Cadman denials instead of naming May 17 attendees.
- misdirectedEthicsHedy Fry (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer insults the asker personally and reiterates denials without identifying any representative.
I did not know my colleague from Vancouver Centre had the ability to transform herself into a fly
- misdirectedEthicsKeith Martin (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the asker for contradicting Cadman instead of addressing taped statements or RCMP request.
In doing so, he is saying that Chuck Cadman is a liar.
- deflectedEthicsKeith Martin (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats the three-witness denial and refuses to discuss any internal investigation or taped admissions.
There were three people at the meeting. All three of them said that no offer was made.
- deflectedPublic WorksMs. Meili Faille (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer gives a blanket denial of favours without addressing specific meetings or communications mentioned.
the record is clear: no special favours were handed out to the parties involved.
- deflectedPublic WorksMs. Meili Faille (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies interference without addressing the specific claim of PMO involvement.
Mr. Speaker, there was no political interference.
- partly answeredAirbusMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.It explains the delay but does not confirm immediate appointment after hearings ended.
We are waiting for the final report of the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics so that Professor Johnston can finish his work and make recommendations concerning the public inquiry.
- deflectedAirbusMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The response sticks to waiting for the report without addressing the promise directly.
We are therefore waiting for the committee's final report.
- answeredEthicsMs. Yasmin Ratansi (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Provides specific quote from Cadman denying the offer.
He said, "No, absolutely nothing. There was never any deal--".
- misdirectedEthicsMs. Yasmin Ratansi (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Shifts focus to questioning the MP's consistency instead of addressing the family's statements.
why would the member opposite, the day after she gave a standing ovation saying that Chuck Cadman is an honourable man, now get up in the House and essentially call Chuck Cadman a liar?
- deflectedEthicsMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Avoids confirming or denying specifics about documents, calls it a farce.
The reality is Chuck Cadman said that no offer was made.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Turns the question back on Liberals and accuses the member of conspiracy.
The member for Ajax—Pickering is doing what he usually does. He takes a little bit from here, a little bit from there, tries to mash it together into some kind of conspiracy and, as usual, he falls flat on his face.
- deflectedVeterans AffairsMr. Peter Stoffer (NDP) asked Mrs. Betty Hinton (Conservative). substantive question.Responds with spending figures and other promises but does not address the specific widow's situation.
I might also note that the member who has just spoken did not support any of those initiatives.
- misdirectedVeterans AffairsMr. Peter Stoffer (NDP) asked Mrs. Betty Hinton (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP voting record rather than addressing the claim of misleading widows on clawbacks.
The sad record of the NDP is quite clear.
- answeredEthicsMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly confirms the meeting occurred and denies any bribe offer using Cadman's own statements.
there was a meeting because we wanted Mr. Cadman to join our political party.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts focus to media interviews and Cadman's quotes instead of explaining the Prime Minister's response.
There were three people who were at this meeting: Tom Flanagan, Doug Finley and Chuck Cadman.
- misdirectedEthicsGarth Turner (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the asker personally and defends Cadman's memory rather than addressing the bribery allegation.
how dare he? The member for Halton never served with Chuck Cadman.
- misdirectedEthicsGarth Turner (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the asker's past party membership and ignores the question about the Prime Minister's statements.
We remember well when the member for Halton was a member of the Conservative caucus and our government has never been more on track
- partly answeredAfghanistanMrs. Carole Freeman (Bloc) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists Canadian efforts on prisons and training but does not cite specific assurances from Afghan authorities.
We have put over a million dollars into improvements for the prisons.
- deflectedAfghanistanMrs. Carole Freeman (Bloc) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates that evaluations are case-by-case without addressing the lack of guarantees or Geneva Convention compliance.
The forces evaluate them on a case by case basis because they do take this so seriously.
- partly answeredAfghanistanIrwin Cotler (Liberal) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats prior measures on infrastructure and training but adds no new steps addressing the Federal Court's specific concerns.
we worked very hard in the last four months to make specific changes in terms of the facility, the infrastructure, the training given to the Afghan national police and the judicial system
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks NDP voting record instead of addressing budget pollution claims.
The NDP is guilty of the sin of green-washing, with false bills and false proclamations that it cares about the environment
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.Answer dismisses NDP bill as hot air and questions their votes rather than addressing the call for a free vote.
Why is the NDP voting against real action on climate?
- answeredAfghanistanIrwin Cotler (Liberal) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly addresses detainee concerns by citing the agreement, training, and monitoring efforts.
That is why we have an agreement in place with the Afghan government.
- partly answeredIranMr. Mario Silva (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.Answer covers general human rights stance and UN resolution but omits specific actions on the named labor leaders.
We will continue to ensure that Canada makes its position very well known to the government of Iran about the situation of human rights in Iran.
- deflectedOfficial LanguagesMr. Richard Nadeau (Bloc) asked Mrs. Sylvie Boucher (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids explaining absence of funding by stating a strategy is under development without specifics.
A strategy to implement the next phase of the Action Plan for Official Languages is currently being developed.
- deflectedPoints of OrderGarth Turner (Liberal) asked Mr. Ed Fast (Conservative). rhetorical question.The exchange is a point of order continuation rather than a question requiring an answer.
I rise on a point of order and do so very reluctantly because it involves another member of this House.
- deflectedPoints of OrderMr. Massimo Pacetti (Liberal) asked Mr. Dean Del Mastro (Conservative). rhetorical question.The exchange is a point of order continuation rather than a question requiring an answer.
I encourage you to look at that statement, Mr. Speaker, and compare the treatment he got with the treatment that my colleague got.