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Tuesday, February 5, 2008 · sitting No. 44

Finance committee report on manufacturing aid debated as trust bill passes

The House spent the largest portion of its sitting on concurrence in the first report of the Standing Committee on Finance. Bloc Québécois MP Paul Crête moved the motion and said the report addressed urgent needs in manufacturing and forestry after the government agreed to separate the $1 billion community development trust from budget legislation.

Conservative MP Rick Dykstra defended the government record on economic growth and tax relief during the debate. Several members from the Bloc Québécois pressed for a distribution formula that would reflect job losses in Quebec rather than a per capita split.

In Question Period the prime minister and opposition leaders clashed over the timing and adequacy of the trust fund. Liberal MP Michael Ignatieff and New Democratic Party MP Jack Layton questioned contracting practices at the Department of Finance.

Decided that day

  • Finance committee report passed
  • Bill C-25 read a second time and sent to justice committee
  • C-41 introduced and given first and second reading
  • C-500 introduced

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

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Who held the floor · 2008-02-05

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 30%, opposition 70% of the words spokenRoutine proceedingsGovernment businessPrivate members▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:0018:00Last speech 19:10Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 9 h 5 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
61Bills Move While Orders Pile UpThree recorded votes passed and several bills advanced through early stages. Yet points of order and largely deflected answers in Question Period consumed notable time.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Immigration and Refugee Protection Act

Conservative MP Dave MacKenzie said Bill C-3 protects national security while respecting limited court oversight in security-certificate cases.

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Petitions

NDP MP Chris Charlton tabled petitions opposing the security and prosperity partnership and calling for quick passage of Bill C-22 on the age of consent.

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Omar Khadr

Bloc Québécois MP Vivian Barbot said international jurists view the military commission process for Omar Khadr as contrary to the law protecting child soldiers.

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Chalk River Nuclear Facilities

Liberal MP Carolyn Bennett asked the health minister to table records of efforts to secure medical isotopes from European suppliers.

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Point of Order

Bloc Québécois MP Yves Lessard retracted remarks after Conservative MP Daniel Petit objected to language used during an earlier exchange.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Community DevelopmentStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains the program rollout but avoids addressing the accusation of partisanship.I said last week that we saw no need to delay this if we could get the support of all parties and continue to sign agreements with the provinces.
  2. answered
    Community DevelopmentStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly explains the timing due to the House not sitting and confirms action taken.I must remind the Leader of the Opposition that when we announced the community development trust a month ago, the House of Commons was not sitting.
  3. misdirected
    Community DevelopmentStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberal Party's positions instead of addressing the proposed investments or the budget tie-in.What I did hear and what I always hear from the leader of the Liberal Party is that no matter what we do, the Liberals are against it.
  4. deflected
    Automotive IndustryMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.The answer criticizes past Liberal positions rather than clarifying who speaks for the government on auto sector help.the Liberals have arrived lately at concern about auto policy in this country.
  5. deflected
    Automotive IndustryMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses value for money but avoids the question of returning the payment or the minister's spending advice.the Minister of Finance answered four repetitive questions I believe and stated that this company provided good value for money in the work that it did in support of this budget.
  6. partly answered
    Manufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes the $1 billion allocation and past tax cuts but does not address improving the package with the surplus.Here in the House of Commons, we have just allocated another $1 billion to help these struggling sectors, as we promised to do in the Speech from the Throne.
  7. deflected
    Manufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Bloc's demands instead of discussing use of the surplus for affected communities.It is easy for the Bloc Québécois to say, "We want $8 billion or $50 billion".
  8. misdirected
    Manufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer mocks the Bloc's position and shifts to unrelated topics like equalization instead of addressing the surplus use.to hear the Bloc Québécois, I am amazed that they are not actually demanding control of our currency and the ability to print dollar bills.
  9. deflected
    Manufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores the proposed refundable R&D tax credit and instead attacks the Bloc's past voting record.I hear the Bloc Québécois lecturing us about what we should do, but where were they—where was that party?—when we reduced corporate taxes in the mini-budget
  10. partly answered
    Government ContractsJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges the minister took responsibility but does not address whether there will be consequences or further action.the Minister of Finance took responsibility for the mistake.
  11. deflected
    Government ContractsJack Layton (NDP) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.Answer defends the contract value instead of addressing the rule-breaking or future contracts.the company in question, as was stated yesterday and again today, did provide good value for money in the work that it did in support of the budget speech.
  12. misdirected
    Forestry IndustryMr. Roger Valley (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to praise from an Ontario premier rather than comparing aid size to the softwood deal or explaining prioritization.
  13. partly answered
    Forestry IndustryMr. Roger Valley (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.Answer explains provincial delivery and national scope but does not address targeting details or U.S. lumber concerns.we are very pleased that we have the opportunity to work with the provinces to deliver this funding.
  14. deflected
    Manufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMr. Anthony Rota (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer restates the trust's purpose without offering further measures or addressing the 'main course' metaphor.the new trust announced and adopted here is a measure that will help vulnerable communities directly.
  15. misdirected
    Manufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMr. Anthony Rota (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Answer blames Senate delay and the questioner instead of explaining timing or distribution clarity.Obviously, we are waiting for the Senate to give its adoption.
  16. answered
    Manufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly explains the per-community allocation rule in the legislation.It is fair and reasonable to proceed in this way.
  17. deflected
    Manufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the questioner's party for inconsistency rather than addressing fund distribution.The Bloc Québécois voted in favour of this bill and now wants to criticize it.
  18. partly answered
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Raynald Blais (Bloc) asked Loyola Hearn (Conservative). substantive question.Answer states intent to work together but provides no timeline or details on the federal plan.Last Friday, I spoke with Mr. Lessard, the Quebec fisheries minister.
  19. answered
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Raynald Blais (Bloc) asked Loyola Hearn (Conservative). loaded question.Answer explains historic allocations and independent review without confirming bias toward Newfoundland.These are historic allocations.
  20. misdirected
    Manufacturing IndustryJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to praising a Liberal member's quote instead of addressing inaction on manufacturing job losses.
  21. deflected
    Manufacturing IndustryJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to criticizing opposition fiscal policy rather than explaining lack of auto sector commitments.If Canadians listened to the member's party, we would be running deficit budgets and no one is interested in that.
  22. misdirected
    Manufacturing IndustryDiane Marleau (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks prior Liberal government record instead of addressing current help for Neelon Casting workers.The question that I put to the hon. member opposite is why, in the time when her party was in government, did it not deal with the competitiveness issues?
  23. deflected
    Manufacturing IndustryDiane Marleau (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.Answer offers anecdote about one plant while avoiding any plan for the broader manufacturing sector.Last week I went to northern Ontario to the community of Lindsay.
  24. partly answered
    Public SafetyMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Answer notes collaborative arrangements but gives no immediate steps for the specific conditions described.This particular situation is of concern to us and is being looked at by a variety of people at a number of levels.
  25. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). loaded question.Answer evades the specific two-tier safety claim by shifting to general funding increases and accusing the asker of ignorance.the person posing the question obviously has no understanding of the fact that these agreements work at a local level.
  26. answered
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly rebuts the premise of favoring a company by explaining the bill passed to reopen the reactor.We put a bill before Parliament to do the best thing and the quickest thing and the most effective thing to restore isotopes which was to get the Chalk River reactor open again.
  27. misdirected
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the asker and opposition as partisan scoundrels instead of addressing the request to table phone records.Clearly those on the other side of the House were acting in a partisan political way and that is shocking.
  28. answered
    AfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly denies any plan to build or manage prisons in Afghanistan.The Government of Canada will not build prisons in Afghanistan.
  29. deflected
    AfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats a denial then pivots to criticizing the opposition on the Manley report debate.Why is the member opposite against an open and transparent debate on the Manley report?
  30. partly answered
    Omar KhadrMrs. Vivian Barbot (Bloc) asked Helena Guergis (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses humane treatment assurances but ignores the child-soldier treaty violation request.I can assure the hon. member that we have sought and received assurances that Mr. Khadr is being treated humanely.
  31. deflected
    Omar KhadrMrs. Vivian Barbot (Bloc) asked Helena Guergis (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats prior points and notes limited comment due to judicial process without engaging the child-soldier or prison-transfer query.Apparently she did not hear it.
  32. answered
    Department of National DefenceMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly explains that mail handling follows safety regulations and will be corrected if issues arise.I can assure the hon. member that all safety precautions are taken.
  33. deflected
    HealthMs. Judy Wasylycia-Leis (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates support for Canada Health Act pillars and attacks the prior government without addressing 100% public funding and operation.We support the five pillars of the Canada Health Act, which include universality, accessibility and affordability.
  34. deflected
    HealthMs. Judy Wasylycia-Leis (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer opens with a personal remark about stature then pivots to general patient focus without addressing the ombudsman or appeal process.she and I at least share one thing, diminutive statures.
  35. misdirected
    Department of National DefenceMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the opposition with a contamination metaphor instead of addressing mail-sorting safety concerns.the contamination in the House, frankly, is from some of the questions across the way.