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Monday, February 4, 2008 · sitting No. 43

Youth justice bill debate takes up most of Commons time

Government orders on Bill C-25, which amends the Youth Criminal Justice Act to add denunciation and deterrence as sentencing principles, occupied 29 per cent of the sitting. Liberal MP Dominic LeBlanc said the Liberal Party remains committed to rehabilitation as the paramount principle and criticized the bill for drawing on failed American models. Bloc Québécois MP Guy André said Quebec has long favoured rehabilitation and reintegration over immediate criminalization and detention.

In question period the Leader of the Opposition, Stéphane Dion, accused the Prime Minister of firing public servants who contradict him, citing the dismissal of the Canadian Wheat Board vice-president of farmer relations and other cases. Prime Minister Stephen Harper replied that the Wheat Board operates at arm's length and that Dr. Arthur Carty had retired voluntarily.

Decided that day

  • Bill C-3 passed
  • Amendment deleting Clause 1 of Bill C-3 defeated
  • Bill S-213 advanced in first chamber
  • Bills C-40 and C-499 introduced

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

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Who held the floor · 2008-02-04

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 29%, opposition 71% of the words spokenPrivate membersGovernment businessGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 11:0512:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:55Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 7 h 50 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
65Bills creep forward, answers mostly dodgeThe House devoted most of its time to substantive debate and passed Bill C-3 while moving three other bills forward. Question period produced few direct answers and only one minor procedural interruption occurred.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Forestry Industry

Liberal MP Ken Boshcoff said the natural resources committee had passed a resolution calling on the Prime Minister to release promised funds immediately for hard-hit forest communities.

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Afghanistan

Bloc Québécois MP Denis Coderre said the Minister of National Defence claimed to have discussed allegations against the governor of Kandahar face to face, yet the governor said he did not recall any such meeting.

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Government Contracts

NDP MP Jack Layton said the finance minister had awarded a $122,000 untendered contract to a Conservative insider to write the budget speech, contrary to federal rules.

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Access to Information

Liberal MP Michael Ignatieff said complaints to the Information Commissioner had doubled and asked whether the Prime Minister still believed information is the lifeblood of democracy.

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Request for Emergency Debate

Independent MP Louise Thibault asked for an emergency debate on the forestry and manufacturing crisis, saying she had the support of the three opposition parties and independent members.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Canadian Wheat BoardStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer states the Wheat Board operates at arm's length and makes its own decisions.The Wheat Board makes its own decisions in terms of which employees it hires and fires.
  2. partly answered
    Government Boards, Agencies and CommissionsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Responds by correcting the retirement fact for one cited case.Dr. Carty has retired. He can check with that gentleman.
  3. deflected
    Government Boards, Agencies and CommissionsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Turns to attacking the opposition's past electoral loss.The fact of the matter is that the people of Canada have a right to fire any of us when they choose to do so, as they did in the last election with the crowd opposite.
  4. deflected
    Access to InformationMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.Addresses the principle but not the specific complaint about doubled complaints.In his last report, the Information Commissioner said that our response to access to information has improved under our government.
  5. misdirected
    Access to InformationMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.Shifts blame to the questioner's party for past votes.it is interesting that the member would complain about this issue given that that party voted against the expansion of access to information.
  6. deflected
    Access to InformationMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Avoids admitting and instead points to opposition's refusal.this government invited opposition parties to review the Manley report and the mission in Afghanistan, but they refused to hold public hearings
  7. partly answered
    AfghanistanMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Directly states there is no credible evidence regarding the allegation.There is no credible evidence in this case.
  8. answered
    AirbusMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Explains the logical sequence based on the recommendation.Therefore, it makes sense for the committee to finish its work before the public inquiry begins.
  9. partly answered
    AirbusMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Addresses appointment search but ignores timing and secrecy accusations.the government is already looking for someone.
  10. partly answered
    Government ContractsJack Layton (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Admits procedural failure but emphasizes value without addressing trust issue.It is correct, though, that administrative functions were not followed with respect to the contracting.
  11. deflected
    Government ContractsJack Layton (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Labels question repetitive without addressing consequences for rule-breaking.the question is repetitive. I hope the House will forgive me if I am repetitive also.
  12. misdirected
    Canadian Wheat BoardWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Criticizes the member instead of addressing the firing or democracy claims.the member for Malpeque just proved he is on a slippery slope as he leaped to his feet there.
  13. partly answered
    Government Boards, Agencies and CommissionsMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). rhetorical question.Explains one retirement and new council but sidesteps the pattern of firings.Dr. Carty, as the Prime Minister has indicated, announced his retirement for March 2008.
  14. deflected
    Public Works and Government ServicesMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Demands apology rather than providing a new factual version.The leader of the Liberal Party had to apologize for the accusations he made regarding this matter. The hon. member should do the same.
  15. misdirected
    Public Works and Government ServicesMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Attacks Liberals' past practices instead of addressing the comparison of treatment.The thing that upsets Liberals is that special favours were not handed out. We are not practising politics the way they always did.
  16. partly answered
    Manufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Defends debt repayment but does not address the specific allocation or irresponsibility claim.paying down debt, coupled with our tax back guarantee, guarantees lower personal income taxes year after year.
  17. deflected
    Manufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the proposal but pivots to general economic caution without addressing the specific plan.This is not a time for excess spending.
  18. deflected
    Older WorkersMr. Yves Lessard (Bloc) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights existing programs and rejects Bloc proposals broadly rather than addressing the older workers measure.One thing we will not do is adopt every measure the Bloc proposes and drive this country back into deficit.
  19. misdirected
    Post-secondary EducationMr. Thierry St-Cyr (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses auto sales and tax cuts instead of responding to the post-secondary education funding request.That is why we have good numbers in January.
  20. deflected
    AfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses allegations against the governor but avoids confirming whether the minister met him.Officials have reported to the Afghan government with regard to these allegations and I can tell you that the Afghan government is following up on this matter.
  21. misdirected
    AfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to calling for debate and questions the asker's motives rather than addressing the prison plan.If my colleague opposite truly cares about the Canadian mission in Afghanistan, he would want an open, honest and transparent debate on the Afghan mission in order to discuss all aspects of the mission.
  22. deflected
    Canadian Wheat BoardMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.The answer uses sarcasm about the member's location and avoids confirming the reason for the firing.those must have been awfully loud boots if he could hear that all the way out in Salt Spring Island where he lives.
  23. deflected
    Canadian Grain CommissionMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.The answer acknowledges knowing the appointee but pivots to praise without addressing patronage or qualifications.I have made no bones about the fact that I have known Elwin for a number of years.
  24. deflected
    Manufacturing and Forestry SectorsMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.The response reiterates plans to help sectors and seek support without admitting any prior error.We want to help the most vulnerable sectors and we are definitely counting on support from the opposition parties.
  25. deflected
    Manufacturing and Forestry SectorsMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights upcoming opposition support and measures without admitting any mistake.For the first time, we will see the opposition get up and defend something that we have supported for a long time since the budget.
  26. partly answered
    Government ContractsJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses value for money and that administrative issues were fixed but does not address how many times rules were broken.What was not done was the administrative functions were not properly followed.
  27. deflected
    Government ContractsJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The response repeats that value for money was provided and issues were corrected without addressing the scam or friends allegation.As I have said four times now, and I urge the member for Markham—Unionville to listen, that has been corrected.
  28. misdirected
    Guaranteed Income SupplementMr. Jean-Yves Laforest (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to tax reductions for seniors instead of addressing payments to banks versus retroactive GIS payments.This is very important for seniors who have pensions in Canada.
  29. deflected
    Canada Mortgage and Housing CorporationMr. Christian Ouellet (Bloc) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists existing spending programs without addressing use of the CMHC surplus specifically.That is why today, through social housing, the affordable housing initiative, the housing trust, the first nations housing trust, the homelessness partnering strategy and the residential rehabilitation assistance project, the government is spending more money on helping people get that housing than any government in history.
  30. answered
    Canadian ForcesAlbina Guarnieri (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the Auditor General report by noting quick implementation of recommendations and steps for more treatment spaces.we have already moved very quickly to implement some of the recommendations of the Auditor General's report.
  31. misdirected
    AfghanistanMs. Dawn Black (NDP) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the question on detainee information and prison plans to attack the asker's motives instead.Why does the member opposite not want an open, transparent debate on the Afghan mission?
  32. deflected
    Canadian Human Rights ActMr. Wayne Marston (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids addressing the Liberal motion or voting stance and pivots to general statements on free speech.This government and this party believe in our constitutionally entrenched and protected rights to freedom of expression, freedom of speech and freedom of the press.
  33. answered
    Canadian ForcesCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses mental health support with specifics on examinations and follow-up for returning troops.rigorous post-examinations are done upon return from deployment.
  34. misdirected
    Lumber IndustryMs. Louise Thibault (Independent) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.The answer turns from the trust's impact on producers to attacking the asker over a past vote against funding.I remind my hon. colleague that even she and the members of her former party, the Bloc Québécois, resisted and voted against $12 billion for Quebeckers in the mini-budget that was tabled and passed in this House.
  35. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsMs. Johanne Deschamps (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer expresses concern and notes travel but does not address joining calls to end the blockade or meet international obligations.we are deeply concerned about the current humanitarian situation in Gaza.