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Friday, February 1, 2008 · sitting No. 42

Afghan detainee allegations consume question period

Oral questions on Afghanistan took the largest share of House time. Liberal MP Ralph Goodale pressed the government on reports that it had known since last April of torture allegations against Kandahar governor Asadullah Khalid yet continued dealings with him. Conservative House leader Peter Van Loan and Defence Minister Peter MacKay replied that the government had strengthened the detainee agreement and that opposition members were blocking committee study of the Manley report.

Question period also featured repeated exchanges on manufacturing and forestry job losses. Bloc Québécois MP Mario Laframboise and others demanded immediate aid for Quebec workers while government members pointed to the $1-billion community development trust and tax measures already announced.

Decided that day

  • C-33 advanced to second reading

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Who held the floor · 2008-02-01

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 41%, opposition 59% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodRoutine proceedings▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:00Last speech 13:45Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 3 h 40 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
27Afghanistan talk, one bill nudged forwardThe sitting devoted most hours to debate on Afghanistan and several statutes yet produced no votes and only modest progress on legislation. Question Period yielded mostly deflected answers while the Speaker issued three calls to order.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Canadian Environmental Protection Act, 1999

NDP MP Alex Atamanenko said the push for biofuels was harming the pork and cattle sectors and that producers had received no immediate help despite committee recommendations before Christmas.

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Public Works and Government Services

Bloc Québécois MP Pierre Paquette accused the Prime Minister's Office of political interference in contracting and of launching a leak investigation instead of addressing the conduct.

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Income Tax Act

Liberal MP Wayne Easter moved second reading of Bill C-219 to extend income-tax deductions to unpaid volunteer emergency-service workers and criticized the government's handling of the bill.

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Environment Canada

Liberal MP John Maloney said scientists at Environment Canada were being required to obtain approved lines before speaking to reporters on any topic.

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Aboriginal Affairs

Liberal MP Roger Valley asked why the government had cancelled a promised school for North Spirit Lake eight days before construction was to begin.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    AfghanistanRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the specific question on the Khalid cover-up and pivots to criticizing Liberals over the Manley report.Yesterday, the Liberal Party blocked a parliamentary study into the Manley report on the future of the Afghan mission.
  2. deflected
    AfghanistanRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the transparency question and attacks the Liberals for blocking Manley debate while repeating talking points.I do not know what confidence Canadians would have in a Liberal Party that considers John Manley and Pamela Wallin to be a dog and pony show.
  3. deflected
    AfghanistanRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question with insults and defends meetings without addressing the investigation requirement under the transfer agreement.cutting through the histrionics, hyperventilating and hyperbole coming from the member opposite, he would know, as a member of the previous government, that we have improved upon an agreement that was flawed under his government.
  4. partly answered
    AfghanistanJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses the meeting and suspension of transfers but sidesteps why transfers occurred under the alleged regime and accuses opponents of wanting press releases.There were assurances given that would happen.
  5. deflected
    AfghanistanJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer evades the Manley briefing question and blames Liberals for blocking committee discussion instead of addressing transparency.if the members opposite were not so intent upon shutting down any further discussions at the committee level by Mr. Manley and members of the committee coming before a parliamentary committee to have a reasonable and rational discussion about this particular report, we could ask him that.
  6. deflected
    Public Works and Government ServicesMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies any problem and mocks the questioners rather than addressing the alleged political interference by Soudas.I do not believe there is any problem.
  7. deflected
    Public Works and Government ServicesMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer changes the subject to past Liberal scandals and avoids the Accountability Act or whistleblower punishment issue.Under the previous Liberal government, the handing out of political favours to friends was so regular that even the media tired of reporting those stories because it was just business as usual.
  8. deflected
    Public Works and Government ServicesMs. Meili Faille (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer quotes a Liberal to dismiss scandal and claims no favours occurred without addressing the definition of political interference.
  9. deflected
    Public Works and Government ServicesMs. Meili Faille (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies any wrongdoing and contrasts with prior government instead of addressing the alleged inconsistent treatment of cases.those are two cases that are entirely similar. No favours were handed out.
  10. partly answered
    AfghanistanMs. Dawn Black (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses the specific allegation about the governor but pivots to defending the agreement and criticizing the prior government.the allegation with respect to the governor is not a Canadian transferred prisoner.
  11. deflected
    AfghanistanMs. Dawn Black (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer affirms support for agreements and courts but shifts to warning about operational risks to the Taliban without committing on transfers.what we will not do is follow the advice of the members of the opposition, the members opposite, who want certain operational details disclosed.
  12. misdirected
    Public Works and Government ServicesMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the Liberal Party's accusations and notes a retraction instead of identifying who approached Soudas.the outrageous kinds of accusations that we have had from the Liberal Party on this issue are wrong.
  13. misdirected
    Public Works and Government ServicesMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer lists unrelated Liberal scandals rather than naming who approached the PMO on Rosdev's behalf.the circumstances are not the same as they were, for example, in the case of the Liberal member for West Nova , who, as minister responsible for ACOA, gave a grant to a harbour for which his brother-in-law has a monopoly
  14. deflected
    Public Works and Government ServicesMr. Todd Russell (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer defends PMO involvement and attacks Liberal expectations of scandal instead of clarifying the nature of the call to officials.apparently my friend thinks the Prime Minister's Office should have nothing to do with running the government or asking questions about the government.
  15. deflected
    Public Works and Government ServicesMr. Todd Russell (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer claims full accountability and highlights a Liberal apology rather than addressing the lobbying law violation or staff accountability.Only one person has had to apologize under this entire sad episode, this invented scandal by the Liberal Party.
  16. deflected
    AfghanistanMr. Réal Ménard (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer recounts government actions taken but does not address the censorship of documents or denial of torture cases.We put in place a new agreement. It leads to the ability to discover any improper treatment.
  17. deflected
    AfghanistanMr. Réal Ménard (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer sidesteps the documents and denial by pivoting to sovereignty and general concerns raised.we are not going to tell the government of Afghanistan who it can put in place as its officials.
  18. partly answered
    Forestry and Manufacturing IndustriesMr. Mario Laframboise (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists existing measures but does not address tabling a new bill immediately.we have just announced $1 billion community development trust.
  19. deflected
    Forestry and Manufacturing IndustriesMr. Mario Laframboise (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer turns the question into a demand for Bloc support rather than addressing the aid plan or oil company claims.Will the Bloc Québécois do its part for the workers and support this measure during the next budget?
  20. misdirected
    Environment CanadaMr. John Maloney (Liberal) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the premise and shifts blame to the prior Liberal policy instead of addressing muzzling.It is also based on the government communications policy which members opposite would well know because it was brought in, in 2002, six years ago by the Liberal Party.
  21. misdirected
    Environment CanadaMr. John Maloney (Liberal) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberals' record on emissions and ignores the muzzling and adviser issues entirely.Canadians want the truth and the truth is that in 13 long years that party caused emissions to go up 33%.
  22. misdirected
    Nuclear EnergyMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer accuses the opposition of misleading Canadians rather than addressing the MAPLE reactor flaws or review.I am sick and tired of opposition members misleading Canadians on this issue.
  23. deflected
    Nuclear EnergyMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer recounts the isotope vote outcome and avoids the muzzling and science adviser firings.At the end of that night, all members supported the government in its initiative to get the reactor up and running again.
  24. deflected
    EthicsMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer reframes the scandal as no favour being asked instead of addressing interference or the Ethics Commissioner request.Now the scandal is: no favour was even asked for.
  25. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner for not amending the bill rather than explaining the delay in implementing Gomery recommendations.the holdup is that this member was part of the committee that passed the Federal Accountability Act
  26. deflected
    Manufacturing IndustryKaren Redman (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to past Liberal inaction and government spending instead of addressing a current manufacturing plan.The Liberals had 12 years to deal with this stuff and they did nothing.
  27. misdirected
    Manufacturing IndustryKaren Redman (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.The answer insults the member's representation of Kitchener Centre instead of addressing family impacts of job losses.I will be very guarded in my response about what Kitchener Centre deserves as representation.
  28. deflected
    Telefilm CanadaMauril Bélanger (Liberal) asked Jim Abbott (Conservative). substantive question.The answer disputes the premise about insufficient funding but does not address when or if the budget will increase.I believe if he were to reflect on the answer of the new commissioner, the new commissioner was not asking for increased funding.
  29. deflected
    Telefilm CanadaMauril Bélanger (Liberal) asked Jim Abbott (Conservative). loaded question.The answer vaguely references steps taken without clarifying who is telling the truth or addressing abandonment of the service.We are very well aware of it. We are not in any way isolating, as he suggested.
  30. partly answered
    Forestry SectorMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the need for a budget vote but deflects by questioning the Bloc's support rather than committing to immediate action.A billion-dollar item has to be voted on in the budget.
  31. misdirected
    Forestry SectorMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer accuses the Bloc of petty politics and pivots to an election threat instead of addressing help for older workers.I still think that the Bloc Québécois is playing petty politics at the expense of workers and the regions of Quebec.
  32. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsMr. Roger Valley (Liberal) asked Mr. Rod Bruinooge (Conservative). substantive question.The answer mentions general support and BC changes but avoids explaining the specific cancellation of the North Spirit Lake school.In fact, the British Columbia government has brought forward an important change to the way that first nations schools will be implementing their education.
  33. deflected
    Agriculture and Agri-FoodMr. Alex Atamanenko (NDP) asked Mr. Guy Lauzon (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists past payments instead of addressing immediate assistance or Wheat Board concerns.Thank God that we have a minister and a Prime Minister who are willing to put farmers first.
  34. deflected
    Natural ResourcesMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer affirms superpower status and general work but offers no energy security strategy.Canada is in fact an energy superpower.
  35. misdirected
    Manufacturing IndustryMaria Minna (Liberal) asked Diane Ablonczy (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies the premise outright and pivots to general job creation without addressing Toronto-specific inaction.none of that is true of course.
  36. deflected
    Points of OrderMauril Bélanger (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer reframes the outburst as concern for troops rather than correcting the record as requested.His point is that we should have some regard for them and that is a sentiment I hope all of us in the House share.
  37. deflected
    Points of OrderRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer accepts the reassurance but immediately pivots to demanding debate on the Manley report.I hope they would honour that by allowing a democratic debate and discussion on the Manley report
  38. partly answered
    Points of OrderKaren Redman (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer agrees to share the release but adds an attack on the Liberals' record instead of an apology.I would be glad to share that press release.