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Tuesday, January 29, 2008 · sitting No. 39

Commons advances identity theft bill amid Afghan detainee clashes

The House spent the largest share of its sitting on second reading of Bill C-27, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (identity theft and related misconduct). Justice Minister Rob Nicholson told members the bill implements a Speech from the Throne commitment and forms part of the government's broader crime agenda. NDP MP Joe Comartin said the bill's core provisions enjoy cross-party support but urged stronger rules on database security in both public and private sectors.

Question Period focused on the handling of Afghan detainees. Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion pressed Prime Minister Stephen Harper to accept personal responsibility for transfer decisions and to outline concrete steps to prevent torture. Harper replied that a single credible allegation of abuse by Afghan authorities had been disclosed by the government and that no Canadian soldier had been accused of misconduct.

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Who held the floor · 2008-01-29

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 34%, opposition 66% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:40Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 35 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
33Another sitting that went nowhereThe sitting devoted most time to debate on the Criminal Code and Afghanistan yet recorded no votes and advanced no bills. Twenty-nine points of order or privilege consumed attention while Question Period produced few direct answers.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Privilege

Health Minister Tony Clement told the House that asking a constituent whether their MP was in opposition was not standard procedure at Health Canada and promised an investigation.

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Settlement of International Investment Disputes Act

Bloc Québécois MP Vivian Barbot argued that treaties such as the ICSID Convention are negotiated without parliamentary debate or provincial consent and called for all treaties to be brought before the Commons.

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Manufacturing Industry

NDP MP Peggy Nash cited Statistics Canada data showing one-third of manufacturers plan production cuts and one in five intend layoffs, and demanded immediate introduction of the community development trust.

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Chalk River Nuclear Facilities

Liberal MP Omar Alghabra accused Natural Resources Minister Gary Lunn of protecting himself while shifting blame onto the former head of the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission.

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Half-Masting of Peace Tower Flag

Liberal MP Andrew Telegdi moved a private member's motion to lower the Peace Tower flag and observe a moment of silence whenever Canadian personnel die on overseas missions.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    AfghanistanStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes misleading as fact and demands responsibility; answer denies premise and pivots to military record instead.The fact is there has not been a single credible allegation made against any member of the Canadian military, and that is something of which we are proud.
  2. deflected
    AfghanistanStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Question asks for personal accountability promise; answer restates agreement without addressing who makes decisions.that is the reason this government created a new agreement with the Afghan government to monitor our prisoners and meet Canada's international obligations.
  3. deflected
    AfghanistanStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Question demands concrete plan and rejects scapegoating; answer defends agreement and praises military without specifics on resuming transfers.The government has not attempted to scapegoat the military for anything.
  4. partly answered
    AfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Question seeks specific leadership changes; answer acknowledges ultimate responsibility but offers no concrete fixes.Obviously the prime minister is ultimately responsible for everything in the government.
  5. deflected
    AfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Question asks for specific management changes; answer gives vague assurance of continued work without details.I can assure the hon. member that the government intends to continue working alongside its allies to achieve success in Afghanistan.
  6. misdirected
    AfghanistanMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Question probes detainee transfer workaround; answer attacks report accuracy instead of addressing policy.I cannot comment on the details of this report.
  7. deflected
    AfghanistanMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Question accuses complicity in torture risk; answer pivots to praising forces and training without addressing Geneva compliance.The Canadian Forces have always respected their international obligations under the agreement we signed with the Government of Afghanistan.
  8. deflected
    AfghanistanMrs. Vivian Barbot (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Question equates government actions to Bush lies; answer denies hiding info and restates process without engaging comparison.The government never hid information about the mission in Afghanistan.
  9. deflected
    AfghanistanMrs. Vivian Barbot (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses past actions and an agreement but avoids directly guaranteeing no complicity or full Geneva compliance.We have an agreement that is working, and the armed forces have the discretion to apply this agreement in the field.
  10. deflected
    AfghanistanJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the comparison to other countries by stating Canada sets its own policies without addressing the national security claim.I guess what it means is that Canada makes its own policies.
  11. misdirected
    AfghanistanJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the question's sources and shifts to unrelated personal details about General Hillier instead of addressing openness.the leader of the NDP could do better than rely simply on anonymous sources to ask his question.
  12. misdirected
    AfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the asker's past statements about General Hillier rather than addressing prisoner transfers since November 5.He now appears to be quite interested in protecting the reputation and well-being of General Hillier, but it was just a short time ago that he said, "I never thought I would see the day when the general and the Canadian army would be a prop for the Government of Canada".
  13. deflected
    AfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies the practice but then insults the asker instead of providing details on transfers or the agreement.What we will not do is take lessons on patriotism or military operations from a man who made up his mind about the mission, went to Afghanistan and hung out at Tim Hortons.
  14. partly answered
    National DefenceKaren Redman (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the procurement process being underway but does not confirm signed contracts or table them.We have already well begun the procurement process.
  15. misdirected
    National DefenceKaren Redman (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to criticizing the previous government's record instead of confirming contract status or explaining the Prime Minister's statement.The party opposite when in government starved our military.
  16. answered
    Manufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the process of signing agreements with provinces to implement the funding without delay.we are currently in the process of signing agreements with the provinces.
  17. deflected
    Manufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer redirects focus to the Bloc's support rather than addressing the Prime Minister's position or immediate action.The only decision still left up to the Bloc is whether to support or oppose this assistance.
  18. partly answered
    Employment InsuranceMr. Yves Lessard (Bloc) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.It discusses EI improvements and spending but pivots to economic strength without committing to the specific suggestions.we did commit in the budget to improving the governance and management of the EI account.
  19. deflected
    Older WorkersMr. Yves Lessard (Bloc) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The response criticizes the questioner's faith in Quebecers and promotes training over a specific program for older workers.I am shocked at how little faith the member has in the people of Quebec.
  20. deflected
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer justifies actions without directly naming responsibility as asked, focusing on the former president's inaction.Ultimately we had to bring a bill before Parliament, which every single member in the House supported, to ensure that Canadians did not need to die.
  21. deflected
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.Reiterates facts about the former president without addressing the accountability question directly.
  22. misdirected
    Government AppointmentsDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). rhetorical question.The response turns the question back on the Liberals instead of addressing the pattern of firings.Really, Mr. Speaker, there was a higher authority making the decisions two years ago in January: the Liberal Party was fired.
  23. misdirected
    Government AppointmentsDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). rhetorical question.Lists past Liberal firings instead of responding to the current government's actions.Jean Pelletier was fired. Chuck Guité was fired. Alfonso Gagliano was fired. All of them were fired.
  24. answered
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMs. Catherine Bell (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer provides specific details on supplier capacities and timing of actions.The problem was that the European suppliers could only add 10% to 15% more to supply and then only at the end of December.
  25. answered
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMs. Catherine Bell (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses contacts with Belgium, inability to supply quantities needed, and South Africa's reactor being closed.We contacted them on December 7 and December 10. We had a conference call with all of the European suppliers. It became clear that they could not supply Canada with the radioisotopes in the quantities we needed.
  26. deflected
    Forestry IndustryScott Brison (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.The response lists general tax and competitiveness measures but avoids the specific request to reinstate the forestry fund.it is not correct to say that the government has taken no action.
  27. deflected
    Forestry IndustryScott Brison (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the demand for an apology and restates prior actions on forestry without addressing the minister's comments.we announced a $1 billion community development trust fund.
  28. deflected
    IndustryMs. Yasmin Ratansi (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.The response discusses general economic focus and factory visits but does not outline a strategy for the named industries.The government has been focused on creating a strong economy for Canadian jobs and that, frankly, is why we differentiate ourselves from some of the other countries that face difficulties as the American economy begins to slow.
  29. partly answered
    IndustryMs. Yasmin Ratansi (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains the community trust fund process and agreements with premiers but sidesteps the call to introduce legislation immediately.We will continue to put in place the agreements across Canada with all of the premiers so that these dollars can be expended to aid workers and to aid communities that are in transition.
  30. answered
    TransportMr. Raynald Blais (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer details meetings, reports, and plans for a pilot project starting next year to address the ferry gap.In my correspondence with the mayor, Mr. Arseneau, I indicated that the government intends to go forward with this issue and to be in a position to offer a service beginning next year as a pilot project.
  31. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The response mentions meetings and a plan with the community but does not commit to providing the requested raw data or documents.There is a plan in place, which is to continue to work with the community in Shannon and work toward a solution to this issue with the water.
  32. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer states general commitments to regulations and reductions but does not address provincial rejections or the claim of missing leadership.We are committed to working constructively and to bringing forward national regulations to require that emissions be reduced.
  33. deflected
    Manufacturing IndustryMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to government praise instead of addressing the community trust or job loss data.thanks to the almost two years of a Conservative government led by Prime Minister Harper, Canada has very strong--
  34. misdirected
    Automotive IndustryMr. Brian Masse (NDP) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP rather than responding to the Ford plant or investment timeline.the NDP, of course, is all strategy and no action.
  35. deflected
    The EnvironmentDiane Marleau (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites supportive Liberal premiers instead of addressing the plan's targets or leadership.Do members know who said that? A Liberal member for Ottawa South by the name of D. McGuinty, the Premier of Ontario.
  36. answered
    PrivilegeMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer supplies the exact quote and context behind the association and offers to withdraw if wrong.I went on to cite part of the press release issued by that organization.
  37. deflected
    PrivilegeCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts focus to the member's own prior statement rather than addressing the alleged misleading of the House.it sounds like it was the member for St. Paul's who had to withdraw her comments after she made them.
  38. answered
    PrivilegeRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer provides the transcript excerpt that supports the inference about the member's position.I do have here a transcript of the member for St. Paul's appearing on the Michael Coren show last week in which she said, "And if we are not there, how do we stand up?"
  39. answered
    PrivilegeMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer identifies the justice critic referenced and notes the differing messages sent by the party.I referred to the Liberal justice critic who I understand is the member for Beauséjour