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Wednesday, January 30, 2008 · sitting No. 40

House begins debate on biofuels bill after Afghanistan and ethics clashes

Government orders on Bill C-33 to amend the Canadian Environmental Protection Act 1999 took the largest share of the sitting. Agriculture minister Gerry Ritz moved second reading and the bill was referred to committee after brief exchanges with Liberal MP Larry Bagnell on impacts for corn prices and livestock feed.

In question period Liberal leader Stéphane Dion pressed Prime Minister Stephen Harper on statements about helicopters for Afghanistan and NATO notification of mission changes after February 2009. Harper replied that procurement is under way and that any extension requires additional NATO troops plus parliamentary approval.

Bloc Québécois leader Gilles Duceppe and Conservative ministers traded charges over alleged political interference by the Prime Minister's Office in a Public Works file involving Rosdev Group and lobbyist Leo Housakos.

Decided that day

  • One bill passed third reading
  • C-9 advanced in first chamber
  • C-27 completed second reading

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

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Who held the floor · 2008-01-30

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 41%, opposition 59% of the words spokenQuestion PeriodRoutine proceedingsGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 14:0515:0016:0017:0018:00Last speech 19:05Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 5 h 0 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
53Bills creep ahead while answers dodgeThe House passed one bill at third reading and moved two others forward during mostly substantive debate. Yet Question Period produced few direct answers and five points of order slowed the sitting.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Public Works and Government Services

Bloc Québécois MP Michel Guimond asked whether Prime Minister Stephen Harper knew of a meeting between Conservative fundraiser Leo Housakos and the Public Works minister's chief of staff on the Rosdev file.

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Ethics

Liberal MP Mark Holland charged that PMO spokesman Dimitri Soudas intervened to help an unregistered lobbyist on a $50-million deal for a Conservative-linked company.

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Manufacturing and Forestry Industries

Bloc Québécois MP Paul Crête pressed Prime Minister Stephen Harper to release community development trust funds for manufacturing and forestry without waiting for the budget or provincial signatures.

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Chalk River Nuclear Facilities

Bloc Québécois MP Claude DeBellefeuille accused Natural Resources minister Gary Lunn of firing Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission president Linda Keen to protect Atomic Energy of Canada commercial interests.

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Old Age Security Program

Independent MP Louise Thibault moved that the government redirect Old Age Security administrative savings to single, widowed and divorced Guaranteed Income Supplement recipients.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    AfghanistanStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses only the helicopters claim and pivots to urging support for the mission instead of the other accusations.In terms of helicopters and UAVs, a year and a half ago the cabinet of the government made a decision to procure this equipment.
  2. partly answered
    AfghanistanStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses NATO awareness and the conditions for extending the mission.NATO is aware of this government's position and knows that we are ready to extend the mission only if NATO gives us additional troops and capacity.
  3. deflected
    AfghanistanStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates the government's position without addressing the claim of misleading NATO for a year.Our position is that if we get certain additional contributions, Parliament should approve an extension of that mission.
  4. misdirected
    AfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer calls the premise false and attacks the questioner rather than addressing communication with NATO.
  5. misdirected
    AfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner's past statements instead of addressing the NATO communication issue.That is what the deputy leader of the Liberal Party had to say to his favourite publication, The New York Times
  6. partly answered
    Public Works and Government ServicesMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies special treatment but does not address the interference or cronyism claims.This happened a year and a half ago and the company received no advantages or special treatment from this government.
  7. deflected
    Public Works and Government ServicesMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to criticizing the Bloc rather than addressing the interference allegation.It is very odd that the Bloc Québécois would complain that a business owner received no special treatment from this government.
  8. answered
    Public Works and Government ServicesMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly denies pressuring officials to change strategy on the Rosdev issue.at no time did we ask the senior officials of a department to change their strategy regarding the management of this issue.
  9. deflected
    Public Works and Government ServicesMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the specific question about a meeting at 24 Sussex and pivots to ethnicity and conspiracy denial.The fact that there are two Montrealers of Greek origin does not mean there is a plot.
  10. partly answered
    AfghanistanJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer gives a date for the meeting but hedges on later contacts and shifts some details to the defence minister.my recollection is that I met the governor on my first visit to Afghanistan in March 2006.
  11. deflected
    AfghanistanJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer sidesteps the question of who ordered secrecy by citing Access to Information rules and the asker’s inexperience.the leader of the NDP has never been in government.
  12. misdirected
    AfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the Liberals instead of addressing the Federal Accountability Act or ethics code questions.Only the Liberals could find it outrageous for a staff member looking into an issue not to give special treatment.
  13. deflected
    AfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats that no favours occurred and dismisses the question as a non-scandal without addressing the timing or ties asked about.There is no scandal, however, but rather behaviour we can be proud of.
  14. deflected
    EthicsMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the premise as fiction and denies lobbying without engaging the specific claims about access or rules.No such lobbying took place in the Prime Minister's Office.
  15. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer turns to past Liberal scandals and personal attacks rather than addressing the current PMO actions raised.That is when we would have seen the member for West Nova giving a grant as ACOA minister to a wharf and boat yard where his brother in law has a monopoly.
  16. partly answered
    Manufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the process of finalizing agreements but does not commit to acting before the budget as asked.we are in the process of working out agreements with all the provinces and territories for the community development trust.
  17. answered
    Manufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly explains the legal and parliamentary requirements preventing immediate action.we cannot spend money without having concluded legal agreements with the provinces, or without the approval of this Parliament.
  18. deflected
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the alleged motive for dismissal and instead highlights prior parliamentary support.We acted and every single member in this House supported that legislation, every single party.
  19. deflected
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the premise as nonsense and pivots to the Auditor General quote without addressing the commercial interests claim.that is absolute, complete nonsense.
  20. misdirected
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberal Party's consistency instead of addressing the international standards question.the only bungling here is the Liberal Party position, because the Liberal members do not know what they stand for.
  21. deflected
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer reiterates safety and parliamentary action while ignoring the call to respect regulator independence.It became absolutely clear that there was not an issue of safety, that this reactor would be absolutely safe, and that we needed to overrule the regulator.
  22. deflected
    Science and TechnologyScott Brison (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.The answer praises Dr. Carty but shifts to describing the new science strategy without addressing the dismissal reason.Dr. Carty is a respected Canadian whom I hold in very high regard.
  23. misdirected
    Science and TechnologyScott Brison (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.The answer accuses the asker of not knowing the truth and pivots to the new advisory group instead of addressing the Bush comparison.what is inconvenient is that my friend is not acquainted with the truth.
  24. deflected
    Public Works and Government ServicesMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer quotes a third party to downplay the issue without addressing the suspension request.I would like to quote a former minister of the Liberal government, Jean Lapierre.
  25. deflected
    Public Works and Government ServicesMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids the direct question on issuing a directive and instead defends by denying favours while attacking opposition parties.At no time were departmental officials asked to change the strategy they had for dealing with the file.
  26. partly answered
    Manufacturing IndustrySue Barnes (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses manufacturing concerns by citing meetings with auto CEOs but does not specify immediate actions for workers.I can assure the member that just yesterday, the Minister of the Environment , Minister of Finance , Minister of Transport, Infrastructure and Communities and I collectively met with the chief executive officers of the auto industry
  27. deflected
    Manufacturing IndustrySue Barnes (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to citing a CIBC report and insults the asker rather than addressing immediate policy actions.I encourage my friend to perhaps focus on CIBC rather than CBC as a source to quote in the House.
  28. misdirected
    Manufacturing IndustryJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks Liberal record instead of responding to Conservative inaction on manufacturing job losses.That is the record of Liberal government in Canada.
  29. deflected
    Manufacturing IndustryJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Answer is cut off but begins by referencing the asker rather than engaging the deficit history question.Mr. Speaker, the member opposite's--
  30. deflected
    Public Works and Government Services CanadaMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the specific question about meeting Leo Housakos and pivots to denying special treatment.This company has not received any special favours or treatment.
  31. answered
    Public Works and Government Services CanadaMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly addresses whether a meeting occurred by stating lack of recall and offering to check records.I do not recall him visiting me at 24 Sussex, but I can check my agenda for the leader of the Bloc Québécois and get back to him.
  32. misdirected
    IndustryMrs. Susan Kadis (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks Liberal voting record instead of addressing the manufacturing crisis or Dell job cuts.what did the member opposite and her colleagues in the Liberal Party do? They voted against it.
  33. deflected
    Softwood LumberMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked David Emerson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer discusses US opposition without addressing the delay, veto claim, or voting on the trust fund.The U.S. government has not brought this issue to arbitration. I do not expect it will.
  34. deflected
    Softwood LumberMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked David Emerson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains US constraints under the agreement but ignores the veto claim and community aid request.It prevents them from bringing anti-dumping cases.
  35. partly answered
    IndustryMs. Colleen Beaumier (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists supports and meetings but does not acknowledge a manufacturing crisis.cumulatively in budgets 2006 and 2007 and in the fall economic statement, there is more than $8 billion in tax relief for Canadian manufacturers
  36. misdirected
    PrivilegeMr. John Cannis (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the Prime Minister's intent rather than addressing the privilege point about insulting the Greek community.In fact, I believe the Prime Minister was defending the people of Greek origin from what seemed to be unremitting attacks from the opposition.