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Wednesday, January 30, 2008 · sitting No. 40
House begins debate on biofuels bill after Afghanistan and ethics clashes
Government orders on Bill C-33 to amend the Canadian Environmental Protection Act 1999 took the largest share of the sitting. Agriculture minister Gerry Ritz moved second reading and the bill was referred to committee after brief exchanges with Liberal MP Larry Bagnell on impacts for corn prices and livestock feed.
In question period Liberal leader Stéphane Dion pressed Prime Minister Stephen Harper on statements about helicopters for Afghanistan and NATO notification of mission changes after February 2009. Harper replied that procurement is under way and that any extension requires additional NATO troops plus parliamentary approval.
Bloc Québécois leader Gilles Duceppe and Conservative ministers traded charges over alleged political interference by the Prime Minister's Office in a Public Works file involving Rosdev Group and lobbyist Leo Housakos.
Decided that day
- One bill passed third reading
- C-9 advanced in first chamber
- C-27 completed second reading
From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard
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Who held the floor · 2008-01-30
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Public Works and Government Services
Bloc Québécois MP Michel Guimond asked whether Prime Minister Stephen Harper knew of a meeting between Conservative fundraiser Leo Housakos and the Public Works minister's chief of staff on the Rosdev file.
Read the exchangeEthics
Liberal MP Mark Holland charged that PMO spokesman Dimitri Soudas intervened to help an unregistered lobbyist on a $50-million deal for a Conservative-linked company.
Read the exchangeManufacturing and Forestry Industries
Bloc Québécois MP Paul Crête pressed Prime Minister Stephen Harper to release community development trust funds for manufacturing and forestry without waiting for the budget or provincial signatures.
Read the exchangeChalk River Nuclear Facilities
Bloc Québécois MP Claude DeBellefeuille accused Natural Resources minister Gary Lunn of firing Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission president Linda Keen to protect Atomic Energy of Canada commercial interests.
Read the exchangeOld Age Security Program
Independent MP Louise Thibault moved that the government redirect Old Age Security administrative savings to single, widowed and divorced Guaranteed Income Supplement recipients.
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- deflectedAfghanistanStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses only the helicopters claim and pivots to urging support for the mission instead of the other accusations.
In terms of helicopters and UAVs, a year and a half ago the cabinet of the government made a decision to procure this equipment.
- partly answeredAfghanistanStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses NATO awareness and the conditions for extending the mission.
NATO is aware of this government's position and knows that we are ready to extend the mission only if NATO gives us additional troops and capacity.
- deflectedAfghanistanStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates the government's position without addressing the claim of misleading NATO for a year.
Our position is that if we get certain additional contributions, Parliament should approve an extension of that mission.
- misdirectedAfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer calls the premise false and attacks the questioner rather than addressing communication with NATO.
- misdirectedAfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner's past statements instead of addressing the NATO communication issue.
That is what the deputy leader of the Liberal Party had to say to his favourite publication, The New York Times
- partly answeredPublic Works and Government ServicesMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies special treatment but does not address the interference or cronyism claims.
This happened a year and a half ago and the company received no advantages or special treatment from this government.
- deflectedPublic Works and Government ServicesMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to criticizing the Bloc rather than addressing the interference allegation.
It is very odd that the Bloc Québécois would complain that a business owner received no special treatment from this government.
- answeredPublic Works and Government ServicesMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly denies pressuring officials to change strategy on the Rosdev issue.
at no time did we ask the senior officials of a department to change their strategy regarding the management of this issue.
- deflectedPublic Works and Government ServicesMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the specific question about a meeting at 24 Sussex and pivots to ethnicity and conspiracy denial.
The fact that there are two Montrealers of Greek origin does not mean there is a plot.
- partly answeredAfghanistanJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer gives a date for the meeting but hedges on later contacts and shifts some details to the defence minister.
my recollection is that I met the governor on my first visit to Afghanistan in March 2006.
- deflectedAfghanistanJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer sidesteps the question of who ordered secrecy by citing Access to Information rules and the asker’s inexperience.
the leader of the NDP has never been in government.
- misdirectedAfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the Liberals instead of addressing the Federal Accountability Act or ethics code questions.
Only the Liberals could find it outrageous for a staff member looking into an issue not to give special treatment.
- deflectedAfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats that no favours occurred and dismisses the question as a non-scandal without addressing the timing or ties asked about.
There is no scandal, however, but rather behaviour we can be proud of.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the premise as fiction and denies lobbying without engaging the specific claims about access or rules.
No such lobbying took place in the Prime Minister's Office.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer turns to past Liberal scandals and personal attacks rather than addressing the current PMO actions raised.
That is when we would have seen the member for West Nova giving a grant as ACOA minister to a wharf and boat yard where his brother in law has a monopoly.
- partly answeredManufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the process of finalizing agreements but does not commit to acting before the budget as asked.
we are in the process of working out agreements with all the provinces and territories for the community development trust.
- answeredManufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly explains the legal and parliamentary requirements preventing immediate action.
we cannot spend money without having concluded legal agreements with the provinces, or without the approval of this Parliament.
- deflectedChalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the alleged motive for dismissal and instead highlights prior parliamentary support.
We acted and every single member in this House supported that legislation, every single party.
- deflectedChalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the premise as nonsense and pivots to the Auditor General quote without addressing the commercial interests claim.
that is absolute, complete nonsense.
- misdirectedChalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberal Party's consistency instead of addressing the international standards question.
the only bungling here is the Liberal Party position, because the Liberal members do not know what they stand for.
- deflectedChalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer reiterates safety and parliamentary action while ignoring the call to respect regulator independence.
It became absolutely clear that there was not an issue of safety, that this reactor would be absolutely safe, and that we needed to overrule the regulator.
- deflectedScience and TechnologyScott Brison (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.The answer praises Dr. Carty but shifts to describing the new science strategy without addressing the dismissal reason.
Dr. Carty is a respected Canadian whom I hold in very high regard.
- misdirectedScience and TechnologyScott Brison (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.The answer accuses the asker of not knowing the truth and pivots to the new advisory group instead of addressing the Bush comparison.
what is inconvenient is that my friend is not acquainted with the truth.
- deflectedPublic Works and Government ServicesMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer quotes a third party to downplay the issue without addressing the suspension request.
I would like to quote a former minister of the Liberal government, Jean Lapierre.
- deflectedPublic Works and Government ServicesMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids the direct question on issuing a directive and instead defends by denying favours while attacking opposition parties.
At no time were departmental officials asked to change the strategy they had for dealing with the file.
- partly answeredManufacturing IndustrySue Barnes (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses manufacturing concerns by citing meetings with auto CEOs but does not specify immediate actions for workers.
I can assure the member that just yesterday, the Minister of the Environment , Minister of Finance , Minister of Transport, Infrastructure and Communities and I collectively met with the chief executive officers of the auto industry
- deflectedManufacturing IndustrySue Barnes (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to citing a CIBC report and insults the asker rather than addressing immediate policy actions.
I encourage my friend to perhaps focus on CIBC rather than CBC as a source to quote in the House.
- misdirectedManufacturing IndustryJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks Liberal record instead of responding to Conservative inaction on manufacturing job losses.
That is the record of Liberal government in Canada.
- deflectedManufacturing IndustryJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Answer is cut off but begins by referencing the asker rather than engaging the deficit history question.
Mr. Speaker, the member opposite's--
- deflectedPublic Works and Government Services CanadaMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the specific question about meeting Leo Housakos and pivots to denying special treatment.
This company has not received any special favours or treatment.
- answeredPublic Works and Government Services CanadaMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly addresses whether a meeting occurred by stating lack of recall and offering to check records.
I do not recall him visiting me at 24 Sussex, but I can check my agenda for the leader of the Bloc Québécois and get back to him.
- misdirectedIndustryMrs. Susan Kadis (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks Liberal voting record instead of addressing the manufacturing crisis or Dell job cuts.
what did the member opposite and her colleagues in the Liberal Party do? They voted against it.
- deflectedSoftwood LumberMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked David Emerson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer discusses US opposition without addressing the delay, veto claim, or voting on the trust fund.
The U.S. government has not brought this issue to arbitration. I do not expect it will.
- deflectedSoftwood LumberMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked David Emerson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains US constraints under the agreement but ignores the veto claim and community aid request.
It prevents them from bringing anti-dumping cases.
- partly answeredIndustryMs. Colleen Beaumier (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists supports and meetings but does not acknowledge a manufacturing crisis.
cumulatively in budgets 2006 and 2007 and in the fall economic statement, there is more than $8 billion in tax relief for Canadian manufacturers
- misdirectedPrivilegeMr. John Cannis (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the Prime Minister's intent rather than addressing the privilege point about insulting the Greek community.
In fact, I believe the Prime Minister was defending the people of Greek origin from what seemed to be unremitting attacks from the opposition.