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Monday, January 28, 2008 · sitting No. 38

House advances investment disputes bill as Afghanistan detainee row intensifies

The House devoted the largest share of its time to Government Orders on Bill C-9, An Act to implement the Convention on the Settlement of Investment Disputes between States and Nationals of Other States. Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Foreign Affairs Deepak Obhrai told the House the convention would facilitate international investment flows through binding conciliation or arbitration rules. NDP MP Chris Charlton raised concerns over limited appeal grounds and transparency during the debate.

Question Period featured sharp exchanges over the government's handling of Afghan detainee transfers. Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion pressed Prime Minister Stephen Harper on why information about suspended transfers was withheld from the House for three months. Harper replied that lawyers disclosed the details in court to affirm that Canadian forces respected international obligations.

Further clashes arose over aid for the manufacturing and forestry sectors. Bloc Québécois MP Paule Brunelle criticized the government's plan as insufficient and tied to the budget. International Trade Minister Lawrence Cannon defended the measures and noted additional equalization payments to Quebec.

Decided that day

  • Bill C-8 advanced in first chamber
  • Bill C-31 passed second reading
  • Bill C-13 advanced in second chamber
  • Bill S-226 introduced
  • Bill C-497 introduced

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Who held the floor · 2008-01-28

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 35%, opposition 65% of the words spokenPrivate membersGovernment businessQuestion PeriodRoutine proceedingsGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 11:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 17:55Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 6 h 55 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
61Bills creep forward while answers dodgeSeveral pieces of legislation advanced through first or second readings and new bills were introduced during the sitting. Question Period produced mostly deflected or misdirected replies, accompanied by four points of order.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Judges Act

Conservative MP Rob Moore said the bill would allow appointment of 20 new provincial superior court judges to reduce backlogs in family and criminal cases. NDP MP Joe Comartin asked about consultations with bar associations on the number of appointments needed in Ontario.

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Canada Transportation Act

Bloc Québécois MP Robert Carrier resumed debate on Bill C-8 at third reading, saying it would strengthen shipper protections against railway market power. NDP MP Pat Martin announced his party's support for the bill.

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Chalk River Nuclear Facilities

Liberal MP Marlene Jennings accused Health Minister Tony Clement of misleading the House by delaying contact with international isotope suppliers for 19 days. Clement replied that the government acted promptly once informed of the shortage.

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Privilege

NDP MP Dawn Black raised a question of privilege alleging that Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier misled the House on detainee tracking capacity in Afghanistan. Conservative MP Tom Lukiwski said no misleading statements had been made.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    AfghanistanStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies premise of misleading without addressing the three-month delay in disclosure to the House.that allegation is completely false.
  2. deflected
    AfghanistanStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to lawyers' decision and praise for troops instead of explaining the contradiction on disclosure.the lawyers decided to disclose this information to the court to clearly demonstrate that Canadian forces and government officials, no matter their level, always respect their international and humanitarian obligations.
  3. deflected
    AfghanistanStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats court disclosure rationale and operational details without addressing why information was withheld from the House.for their own legal reasons the lawyers in that case chose to disclose this information principally to once again demonstrate that Canadian troops and Canadian government officials at all levels always respect their international obligations.
  4. misdirected
    AfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer defends the statement as true then pivots to attacking the questioner's suggestion rather than addressing the minister's knowledge.Surely the member is not suggesting that we simply accept every allegation without--
  5. misdirected
    AfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores the questions on resumption date and measures, instead quoting the asker's past statements to change subject.He seems to have changed his position somewhat and has now focused his concerns greatly on the issue of torture.
  6. deflected
    AfghanistanMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges advice but avoids committing to an early vote by urging parties to review the report.I hope all the parties in this House will take the time to look at the report and all the considerations before making a decision.
  7. answered
    AfghanistanMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly denies the premise and states the condition for extension.extending this mission depends on the other combat soldiers sent by the allies.
  8. deflected
    AfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer claims the agreement is working due to operational decisions without addressing the claim of misleading the House.The reason why this agreement is working is of course because of the current ability of Canadian Forces to make operational decisions on the ground in Afghanistan.
  9. deflected
    AfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids specifics on current detainee handling by shifting to decision-making authority.decisions on the ground, during military operations, are made by the chain of command.
  10. misdirected
    AfghanistanJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner's suggestion instead of addressing disclosure of transfers.I am surprised that the Leader of the NDP would suggest that we follow the American example, which is to transfer prisoners to Guantanamo Bay.
  11. deflected
    AfghanistanJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates the agreement status while again attacking the questioner rather than clarifying current practice.Once again the leader of the NDP is now suggesting that we adopt the policy of the Bush government, which involves transferring detainees to Guantanamo Bay.
  12. deflected
    AfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the minister's knowledge claim by reiterating military vs. political roles.the military in the field in Afghanistan are responsible for operational decisions and our government is responsible for political decisions.
  13. misdirected
    AfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer insults the asker and pivots to attacking the prior government instead of answering where prisoners are now.I see that the break has not tempered the member opposite at all in his flirtations with the truth.
  14. deflected
    AfghanistanBryon Wilfert (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the agreement but avoids confirming whether the minister knew transfers had stopped.This exemplifies why the agreement was put in place.
  15. partly answered
    AfghanistanBryon Wilfert (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the Afghan counterpart discussion but cuts off without full details on notifications to partners.I contacted my foreign affairs counterpart and told him that we had found a possible case of abuse.
  16. deflected
    Manufacturing and Forestry SectorsMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists unrelated spending items instead of addressing the timing or adequacy of the manufacturing and forestry plan.a number of things have happened since the last time we members of this House got together.
  17. misdirected
    Manufacturing and Forestry SectorsMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the aid disparity and instead attacks the Bloc for not supporting unrelated funding.The Bloc Québécois refused to support us in allocating $12 billion to Quebeckers over the next five years.
  18. deflected
    Manufacturing and Forestry SectorsMr. Jean-Yves Roy (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids the per capita fairness issue by shifting to municipal leaders and blaming the Bloc.It is important to recall that the government acted with the communities in mind.
  19. misdirected
    Manufacturing and Forestry SectorsMr. Jean-Yves Roy (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Answer dodges the minister's approval of the formula by praising past actions and attacking the Bloc.One thing is sure: no jobs have been created and no projects have been approved by the Bloc Québécois.
  20. answered
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly denies the claim of refusing help and explains actions taken on isotopes.We in fact did scour the world for replacement isotopes.
  21. deflected
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats a prior denial without addressing the 19-day delay or misleading claim.that is the same question and it will be given the same answer.
  22. deflected
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.Answer defends the firing but avoids accountability for the minister by focusing on the regulator.She was issued a cabinet directive.
  23. deflected
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.Answer claims transparency but sidesteps the call for an independent review of the firing.We stayed here until every last question was answered.
  24. partly answered
    Manufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.Answer explains the budget process for the $1 billion but ignores the blackmail and oil company comparison.This process is called a "budget".
  25. deflected
    Manufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to auto sector achievements without addressing oil company favoritism or blackmail claim.It is a record to be proud of and it is yielding results for Canadian workers.
  26. deflected
    Manufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMs. Bonnie Brown (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.Answer emphasizes general fiscal strength but ignores request for targeted manufacturing assistance.We have the most solid fiscal finance record anywhere in the G-7.
  27. partly answered
    Manufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMs. Bonnie Brown (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges structural adjustments in manufacturing while claiming overall job growth.More jobs are being created than jobs that are being lost.
  28. misdirected
    Manufacturing and Forestry IndustriesJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the questioner's irony instead of addressing spending priorities or economic downturn help.it is rather ironic that the hon. member stands in the House and raises that sort of a question.
  29. misdirected
    Manufacturing and Forestry IndustriesJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.Answer defends economic record and scolds the asker rather than responding to job loss concerns.Perhaps he should talk to his former colleagues about the strength of this economy.
  30. deflected
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies inaction but does not address the 19-day delay or blame-shifting premise.Once I had the information, I took action.
  31. answered
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly refutes the capacity claim and restates actions taken for isotope supply.The reactor in Belgium does not have the capacity to produce isotopes.
  32. partly answered
    Forest IndustryMr. Ken Boshcoff (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.Answer notes need for provincial agreements but avoids explaining the June delay or hostage claim.Of course, this will require agreement with the provinces that are affected.
  33. deflected
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMs. Catherine Bell (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies the premise and restates the shortage details without addressing the timing of contacting other suppliers.No, Mr. Speaker, that is completely false yet again.
  34. partly answered
    TransportMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses funding timeline and feasibility but ignores the climate and sinking rhetoric.I have contacted Mayor Arsenau and I told him that it was too late to do anything this year, but next year we could certainly work on acquiring the necessary funding to ensure year-round service.
  35. misdirected
    Manufacturing IndustryMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Answer pivots to an unrelated lock-out and industry minister instead of addressing laid-off workers or immediate action.I understand that my hon. colleague may have asked a question because the Writer's Guild is presently in a lock-out.
  36. partly answered
    Manufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMs. Louise Thibault (Independent) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.Answer explains provincial approval process and flexibility but does not address the delay or electoral strategy claim.First and foremost, this requires approval from the provinces, or an agreement with them.