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Tuesday, December 11, 2007 · sitting No. 35

Commons advances budget bill after NDP concurrence motion stalls debate

The House spent the largest share of its sitting on third reading of Bill C-28, the Budget and Economic Statement Implementation Act, 2007. Conservative MP Ted Menzies opened debate by urging quick passage of the tax measures from the fall economic statement and remaining 2007 budget items. New Democratic and Bloc Québécois members pressed for targeted relief for manufacturing and first nations post-secondary education.

Question Period opened with repeated exchanges on the Chalk River reactor shutdown. Liberal MP Michael Ignatieff asked why the nuclear regulator was sidelined from safety assessments during the 120-day restart window. Prime Minister Stephen Harper replied that independent advice showed no safety concern and accused the Liberal-appointed commission of endangering public health by blocking isotope production.

Further clashes arose over Quebec language rights and securities regulation. Bloc Québécois MP Pierre Paquette accused the government of blocking a bill to apply the Charter of the French Language to federal workplaces. Finance Minister Jim Flaherty defended a proposed common securities regulator while rejecting claims it would centralize activity in Toronto.

Decided that day

  • Debate adjourned on reactor resumption act
  • C-38 introduced and advanced through first and second reading
  • C-493 and C-494 introduced

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

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Who held the floor · 2007-12-11

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 34%, opposition 66% of the words spokenRoutine proceedingsGovernment businessGovernment businessPrivate membersGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0512:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:0018:0019:0020:0021:00Last speech 23:10Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 13 h 5 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
62Reactor Bill Advances, Debate AdjournedThe House spent the bulk of its time advancing the Chalk River reactor resumption act and the budget implementation bill, moving multiple bills through stages. One recorded vote passed to adjourn debate while question period yielded few direct answers.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Committees of the House

NDP MP Jean Crowder moved concurrence in the aboriginal affairs committee report on post-secondary education and accused the government of accepting third-world conditions in First Nations communities. Conservative MP James Bezan called the motion a delaying tactic against the budget bill.

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Elder Abuse

Conservative MP Peter Goldring described financial exploitation of seniors as the most perverse form of elder abuse and said lifelong savings were being drained by family members.

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Budget and Economic Statement Implementation Act, 2007

Bloc Québécois MP Thierry St-Cyr told the government its economic statement ignored unanimous committee recommendations for accelerated capital cost allowance and refundable R&D credits to help manufacturers.

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Homelessness

NDP MP Tony Martin said 41 homeless people died in Edmonton last year and asked when the government would adopt a national housing strategy before winter. Human Resources Minister Monte Solberg listed existing federal housing and homelessness funds.

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Child Care

Liberal MP Ken Dryden reported that child-care providers in Napanee said the taxable allowance had produced zero new spaces or improved facilities. Human Resources Minister Monte Solberg countered that the government was investing three times the previous amount.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. misdirected
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberal-appointed regulator and party rather than explaining the regulator's exclusion or AECL's competence.On the contrary, what we do know is the continuing actions of the Liberal appointed Nuclear Safety Commission will jeopardize the health and safety and lives of tens of thousands of Canadians.
  2. misdirected
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts blame to the Liberals and regulator while asserting public interest without addressing the minister's inaction over 18 months.The Liberals should stop protecting their appointee and get on with getting these medical isotopes produced.
  3. misdirected
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberal Party and its appointee instead of explaining the delay in assessing the health situation or the Prime Minister's expertise.Since when does the Liberal Party have a right, from the grave through one of its previous appointees, to block the production of necessary medical products in the country?
  4. deflected
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids detailing steps taken over 17 months and instead blames Liberals for blocking isotopes production.The question is whether the Liberals will continue to block the production of medical radioisotopes in the country.
  5. misdirected
    Chalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the accident scenario and pivots to blaming Liberals for obstructing the reactor rather than addressing responsibility in case of accident.What there will be is a growing crisis in the medical system in Canada and around the world if the Liberal Party continues to support the regulator obstructing this reactor from coming back online.
  6. partly answered
    Official LanguagesMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer notes the committee has not decided yet but does not address the hypocrisy charge or the bill's merits.The committee has not made a decision yet and we are waiting for that decision.
  7. deflected
    Official LanguagesMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates general policy on linguistic powers without explaining the contradiction with the Prime Minister's earlier statement.In the meantime, the federal government applies its policies in its own jurisdictions.
  8. deflected
    Official LanguagesMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). loaded question.The answer emphasizes open federalism and jurisdiction respect but sidesteps the bill's application to private companies under the Canada Labour Code.As the Prime Minister said, we will continue to respect the provinces' jurisdiction, we will assume our responsibilities, and we will promote linguistic duality in Canada.
  9. deflected
    Official LanguagesMr. Richard Nadeau (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.Answer evades the specific question on will to act by referencing an unrelated PQ statement and restating jurisdiction.The federal government will continue to work within its jurisdiction while respecting areas under provincial jurisdiction.
  10. misdirected
    JusticeJack Layton (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores the white-collar crime question and instead attacks the NDP on violent crime.I would like to know why the NDP is so soft on violent criminals in this country.
  11. misdirected
    JusticeJack Layton (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to questioning the asker's intent about emulating US system and again attacks NDP on a bill.if I caught the first part of that question, does the hon. member now want us to emulate the American justice system?
  12. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids current targets question by attacking past Liberal record instead of addressing science-based demands.the fact is that after 13 years of Liberal inaction emissions climbed 33%.
  13. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.Answer sidesteps the Bali ridicule question by quoting the Liberal leader on Kyoto rather than defending the minister.the Kyoto protocol is "too bureaucratic", and its shortcomings must be addressed to eventually draw the United States into a new climate-change deal.
  14. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Raymonde Folco (Liberal) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores the apology request and instead quotes a Quebec minister on mandatory targets.She said that "we believe that mandatory targets must be imposed upon everyone, and that is, yes, countries must participate in the fight against climate change, including the United States and emerging economies like China and India".
  15. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMs. Raymonde Folco (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores the environmentalists participation question and pivots to demanding an apology over unrelated smears.I would like the Liberal Party members who have engaged in that questioning in the past to apologize now for their repeated smears.
  16. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Marcel Lussier (Bloc) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids the economy-vs-environment conclusion by restating Canada's targets without addressing isolation or priority.That is why Canada has taken the leadership role of requiring a mandatory regulatory framework that reduces greenhouse gas emissions by 20% by 2020 and by 60% to 70% by 2050.
  17. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Marcel Lussier (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to criticizing the Bloc's stance on international emitters instead of addressing Quebec's funding request.But I do not understand why the Bloc Québécois is taking the position that China and other countries, which are the world's largest emitters, should not have targets.
  18. partly answered
    SecuritiesMr. Thierry St-Cyr (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Acknowledges respect for jurisdictions but pivots to congratulating exchanges rather than committing to action on manufacturing.As stated in the Speech from the Throne, we respect the jurisdictions of Canada's governments.
  19. deflected
    SecuritiesMr. Thierry St-Cyr (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Denies the premise aggressively and redirects to enforcement issues.that suggestion is absolute nonsense.
  20. misdirected
    Electoral ReformJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Instead of addressing the bill, questions the Liberal Party's position and criticizes Ontario Liberals.The real question for the hon. member is this: what is the position of the Liberal Party?
  21. misdirected
    Electoral ReformJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Responds by contrasting premiers' views and questioning the asker's stance rather than admitting or fixing the bill.I would like to know, since she is quoting people on opposite ends of the spectrum, which side she comes down on
  22. deflected
    Wireless IndustryScott Brison (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.Dismisses the relevance of the lobbying registration issue to the spectrum decision.the alleged facts to which he refers are not germane to the spectrum decision that was made.
  23. deflected
    Wireless IndustryScott Brison (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Rejects the premise and labels the questions as baseless fishing expeditions.All of these are complete fishing questions where the opposition has no facts of any kind.
  24. answered
    SecuritiesMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Directly addresses the location of the derivatives exchange in Montreal.I understand, from speaking to the principals, that the idea has been that the derivatives exchange would remain in Montreal.
  25. deflected
    SecuritiesMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids any yes/no commitment on a carbon exchange by redirecting focus to the Montreal Exchange's existing success.It is a success story in capital markets in Canada.
  26. misdirected
    Child CareKen Dryden (Liberal) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the Napanee anecdote and instead attacks the questioner's prior child care plan via a third party.Do members know how many spaces she said that his child care plan created?
  27. deflected
    Child CareKen Dryden (Liberal) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The answer sidesteps the direct accusation by listing government spending and choice without addressing Napanee providers.The truth is that this government is investing three times as much in child care as the previous government did.
  28. partly answered
    Correctional Service CanadaKaren Redman (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer references upcoming recommendations and new funding but does not commit to a funded mental health strategy.We also receive good advice from the investigator at Correctional Service Canada.
  29. answered
    Correctional Service CanadaKaren Redman (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the Ashley Smith case by noting ongoing investigations and protocol reviews.Virtually from the moment that happened I insisted that the entire process of protocols and what happens in situations like that be reviewed, updated and monitored.
  30. deflected
    Manufacturing IndustryMr. Guy André (Bloc) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.The answer rejects immediate action and pivots to unrelated rankings of Quebec business locations.As was mentioned yesterday, many of these sectors are growing.
  31. deflected
    Manufacturing IndustryMr. Jean-Yves Laforest (Bloc) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses general Service Canada support and job creation instead of committing to an income support program for older workers.I think the most important way to support workers is to give them the skills they need to take advantage of the extraordinarily hot job market.
  32. deflected
    Manufacturing IndustryMr. Jean-Claude D'Amours (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges plant closures but highlights overall job growth without addressing an ACOA survival fund.The place in Canada where job creation is the highest is in New Brunswick at a 4.2% increase year over year.
  33. deflected
    HomelessnessMr. Tony Martin (NDP) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists existing spending but never addresses establishing a national housing strategy or taking the deaths seriously.There is $1.4 billion in the housing trust today.
  34. deflected
    HomelessnessMr. Tony Martin (NDP) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The answer corrects a factual point and asserts concern without providing or outlining any plan.I hate to break it to the member, but the NDP has never been in power so there was no budget from the NDP.
  35. partly answered
    AgricultureWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.The answer disputes the premise of inaction and states work is underway but offers no immediate cash measures.We are in constant contact working with the farm groups, with the livestock sector, with the pork sector, with the processors and with the provinces.