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Monday, December 10, 2007 · sitting No. 34
Commons debates budget bill amid clashes over climate and manufacturing
The House spent the largest share of its time on the Budget Economic Statement Implementation Act, 2007. Members from all parties continued second-reading debate on the bill, with speakers addressing tax measures, support for the forest sector and corporate tax reductions.
In Question Period the main exchanges concerned the government's performance at the Bali climate conference. Liberal MP Michael Ignatieff and Prime Minister Stephen Harper traded charges over Canada's emission targets and its stance on mandatory cuts for developing countries.
Further clashes arose over aid to the manufacturing sector. Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe pressed the Prime Minister for immediate assistance before adjournment, while the Prime Minister pointed to measures already contained in the economic statement.
Decided that day
- Bill C-28 passed
- Amendment deleting Clause 181 defeated
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Read the exchangeBudget Economic Statement Implementation Act, 2007
Liberal MP Ken Boshcoff urged the government to reinstate the exhibition transportation service so smaller museums and galleries could continue to share works such as those of Norval Morrisseau.
Read the exchangeDarfur
Liberal MP Glen Pearson asked the government to step up diplomatic efforts to save the north-south Sudan peace accord, and Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier replied that Canada had already provided $286 million in aid to the African Union and UN mission.
Read the exchangeAboriginal Affairs
Indian Affairs Minister Chuck Strahl told NDP MP Charlie Angus that the government would not support the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples until first nations in Canada are covered by the Canadian Human Rights Act.
Read the exchangeChalk River Nuclear Facilities
NDP MP Peggy Nash asked why the government had ignored earlier warnings about safety and scheduling problems at the Chalk River reactor, and Natural Resources Minister Gary Lunn said the immediate priority was resuming isotope production.
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- misdirectedGovernment PoliciesMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes abdication of leadership as fact; answer pivots to attacking Liberals instead of addressing the listed international positions.
Why is the Liberal Party blocking that initiative?
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes intent to subvert agreement; answer shifts to provincial targets without addressing Bali strategy.
nothing that this government is doing prevents the Government of Ontario or any other province having stricter admission targets on climate change.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes sabotage; answer criticizes China's and Liberals' positions rather than defending Canada's stance.
It is the Liberals' position that China and other developing countries should not have mandatory targets.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes obstruction; answer attacks the member personally instead of addressing Bali criticism.
if we talk about the hypocrisy award of the day, that member is definitely in the running.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes foot-dragging; answer cites a quote praising Canada without engaging the specific criticisms raised.
Congratulations once again for putting Canada in the ranks of those countries moving aggressively to reduce the emission of greenhouse gases.
- partly answeredManufacturing SectorMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Question asks for immediate manufacturing aid before adjournment; answer references existing measures but does not commit to new pre-adjournment action.
this government has presented Parliament with significant measures for the manufacturing sector in the Minister of Finance
- deflectedManufacturing SectorMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Question presses for immediate measures using surplus; answer attacks Bloc's history instead of addressing timing or specific proposals.
after 17 years in the House of Commons, the Bloc has never taken any measures to help the manufacturing sector.
- misdirectedManufacturing SectorMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.Question asks why specific funding measures are delayed; answer lists job gains in unrelated sectors without addressing the proposals.
According to a Statistics Canada report, jobs in certain areas of the manufacturing sector have increased in recent years.
- deflectedForestry IndustryMr. Jean-Yves Roy (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks Bloc positions on unrelated issues instead of addressing the forestry fund request.
I am surprised by the comments of members of the Bloc Québécois.
- answeredThe EnvironmentJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly rebuts the sabotage claim and states the government's proposal.
nothing could be farther from the truth.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer mocks the questioner about Bush mention then restates position without addressing sabotage allegation.
it has been many months since the leader of the NDP mentioned George W. Bush in a question, so that is an improvement.
- partly answeredDarfurMr. Glen Pearson (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.Answer lists aid amounts but does not address requested diplomatic steps to save the peace accord.
We have given $286 million in aid to the African Union and the UN peacekeeping mission in Darfur.
- deflectedDarfurMr. Glen Pearson (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.Answer praises Pearson legacy and lists other actions but avoids specific steps for Sudan peace accord.
We are proud of that and we are working to honour that legacy.
- misdirectedDarfurIrwin Cotler (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the questioner's past record and shifts to aboriginal rights instead of Darfur priority.
When he was in government, he was not quite that passionate about protecting human rights.
- deflectedDarfurIrwin Cotler (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.Answer boasts about UN Watch score and criticizes prior government rather than committing to requested resources.
UN Watch said that we got 100% on the promotion and protection of human rights in the world.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies copying Bush but does not address the Bali agreement condition tied to US commitment.
the member is absolutely wrong.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.Answer promotes green tech instead of addressing delegation makeup or Kyoto stance.
we have a very strong delegation going to Indonesia. It includes three Canadian companies which are leading the way in green technology right here at home, strong leadership including gasification of garbage, carbon capture and storage, and cellulosic ethanol.
- partly answeredAboriginals AffairsMr. Marc Lemay (Bloc) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.Answer notes record spending and a recent agreement but does not commit to the requested 10-year action plan.
of course, it has been our pleasure to spend a record amount of money on aboriginal issues, including a record amount of money for both on and off reserve housing, and a record amount of money for education.
- misdirectedAboriginals AffairsMr. Marc Lemay (Bloc) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.Answer pivots to attacking opposition over human rights coverage instead of addressing UN declaration reversal.
It is time the opposition parties got that through their heads.
- deflectedGovernment AppointmentsMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer accuses opposition of smears rather than addressing evidence or stepping aside request.
You owe an apology to that member for continuing these smears.
- misdirectedGovernment AppointmentsMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks Liberal leader's absence instead of addressing Mulroney standard or stepping aside.
it is obvious to me that the leader of the Liberal Party is not in this country right now, because I am sure after last week, he would be ashamed of the conduct he is seeing from across the floor today.
- deflectedGovernment AppointmentsMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer demands apology for smears without addressing meeting or notification claims.
the members of the Liberal Party should be offering an apology to the repeated, baseless, without any evidence smears they have conducted against the Minister of the Environment
- deflectedGovernment AppointmentsMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer reiterates no offer occurred and calls opposition efforts sleaze instead of addressing knowledge or notification.
The continued efforts at sleaze over there should be tried outside the House, and then see how those members feel.
- partly answeredChalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses current isotope priority and contacts made but ignores prior Liberal-era warnings and budget issues.
with respect to the situation with medical isotopes, I can assure the House that our government is very concerned.
- deflectedChalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer focuses on isotope production rather than addressing the ignored warnings or launching a probe.
Our first priority right now is to ensure the production of these isotopes as soon as possible.
- partly answeredHealthMr. Bernard Patry (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer describes actions taken after the shutdown but does not address why no prior emergency plan existed.
The moment we were alerted to this extended shutdown, Health Canada swung into action.
- deflectedHealthMr. Bernard Patry (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the government's actions without admitting fault or directly addressing the call to establish an emergency plan.
We have been responsible. We have been pro-active.
- misdirectedAboriginal AffairsAnita Neville (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner's record on Bill C-21 instead of addressing the UN declaration.
That is the member who moved amendments in committee that gutted Bill C-21
- deflectedAboriginal AffairsAnita Neville (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to the Canadian Human Rights Act and ignores the question on the UN declaration.
We will not ignore the cries of aboriginal people, aboriginal people who have said that 30 years is too long.
- deflectedFinanceMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims the imbalance is corrected and criticizes the Bloc instead of addressing further measures requested.
In fact, not only have we corrected the fiscal imbalance, but over the next five years, we will be giving Quebeckers tax reductions
- deflectedFinanceMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer asserts promises were kept without addressing opt-out powers or spending power reforms.
When this party, this government, says it will do something, it keeps its promise.
- misdirectedFederal-Provincial RelationsMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer accuses the Liberals of resisting change rather than addressing consultation with premiers.
I think we see in that question the real agenda of the Liberal Party on this matter
- deflectedCopyright LegislationMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids addressing stakeholder access or legislation balance by citing inability to discuss pre-tabling and noting the questioner's impatience.
I note impatience in my hon. friend's voice in his question.
- misdirectedCopyright LegislationMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner's clarity and topic focus rather than addressing the claim of insufficient stakeholder consultation.
He seems unclear as to whether a bill has been tabled or not tabled, whether he wants it tabled or does not want it tabled.
- deflectedAirbusDiane Marleau (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer points to an ongoing committee process and an independent review instead of addressing whether the described payment is acceptable.
A hearing is going on at the ethics committee.
- answeredDarfurMs. Louise Thibault (Independent) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly counters the claim of inaction by detailing specific financial contributions made to address the Darfur situation.
We have provided more than $286 million to help the African Union restore peace to a difficult situation in the world.