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Wednesday, December 12, 2007 · sitting No. 36
Commons advances budget bill amid limits on debate
The House spent the largest share of its sitting on third reading of Bill C-28, the Budget and Economic Statement Implementation Act, 2007. Conservative House leader Peter Van Loan moved to curtail further debate and extend sitting hours until the bill passed, a step opposed by NDP members who argued the motion violated their right to vote on amendments.
Liberal and Conservative members combined to support the procedural move while NDP MP Pat Martin protested the arrangement on the floor. The bill contains tax measures including a further one-point reduction in the GST and new benefits for low-income workers and people with disabilities.
Question period featured sharp exchanges over the restart of the Chalk River reactor and the government's handling of medical isotopes, with Liberal MP Michael Ignatieff pressing for an Auditor General inquiry and Prime Minister Stephen Harper defending the decision to seek parliamentary authority.
Decided that day
- Opinion motion urging child-first policy passed
- One debate adjourned by vote
- Bill C-38 received royal assent
- Bills C-35, C-15, C-28, C-12 reached second chamber
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Who held the floor · 2007-12-12
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The Environment
Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe accused the government of sabotaging post-Kyoto talks in Bali and tailoring its climate plan to oil companies by using a 2006 base year. Prime Minister Stephen Harper replied that only future emissions can be controlled and that all major emitters must face mandatory targets.
Read the exchangeGovernment Appointments
Liberal MP Mark Holland said the OPP had reversed a decision to forward bribery files to the RCMP and asked whether government members had contacted police in the preceding 24 hours. Conservative House leader Peter Van Loan called the accusations unfounded and urged Holland to apologize.
Read the exchangeForestry Industry
Bloc Québécois MP Paul Crête pressed Finance Minister Jim Flaherty to adopt the party's proposals for refundable tax credits and loan guarantees to aid Quebec's forestry sector. Flaherty pointed to $1.3 billion in accelerated capital cost allowance and $12 billion in business tax reductions already provided.
Read the exchangeOfficial Languages
Bloc Québécois MP Carole Lavallée asked why the government opposed stronger French-language protections in the Canada Labour Code. Heritage Minister Josée Verner said Ottawa would promote both official languages at the federal level and invited the Bloc to support the next action plan.
Read the exchangeEthics
Liberal MP Diane Marleau asked whether all documents on the Bear Head project had been given to Professor Johnston for the public inquiry. Justice Minister Rob Nicholson said the government had acted quickly and that Johnston should be allowed to set the terms without interference.
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- deflectedChalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Harper sidesteps the timeline question by stressing agency independence and attacking the opposition's prior stance.
this is an interesting question coming from a leader and a party that, as late as yesterday afternoon, was saying that the government should simply sit back and let Ms. Keen and the commission resolve this in their own good time.
- partly answeredChalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Clement addresses contracts and thanks specialists but does not guarantee Canadian patients receive isotopes first.
Those contracts would be honoured.
- deflectedChalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Harper promises future review without committing to an Auditor General inquiry or addressing the 17-month violation claim.
the government will carefully examine the role of all actors in this incident and ensure that accountability is appropriately restored.
- deflectedChalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). substantive question.Lunn restates priority on isotopes and future accountability without detailing concrete measures against AECL.
we will ensure on this side of the House that there is full accountability for all the players involved in this.
- deflectedChalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.Lunn again cites a prior review and vague accountability without agreeing to an Auditor General audit.
we have also launched a review of AECL.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Harper promotes the Montreal protocol approach but ignores the sabotage and hypocrisy accusations.
this government has proposed a Canadian model of success for the next protocol to ensure an effective international protocol, namely the Montreal protocol.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Harper defends the 2006 reference year choice without addressing oil-company favoritism or Quebec industry impacts.
The reason we chose 2006 is that we can control future emissions.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). substantive question.Warawa answers about market location instead of committing to a 1990 reference year or regulatory changes for past reductions.
Whether it is Montreal or Toronto or Winnipeg, the market will decide.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the specific policy demands and pivots to past Liberal failures.
In 2006 this government took over. We now have a plan, a U-turn on emissions.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses the call to rein in polluters by stating that targets apply to tar sands with biggest reductions required.
In fact, the reductions required of the biggest emitters will be the biggest reductions.
- partly answeredChalk River Nuclear FacilitiesJack Layton (NDP) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses the privatization and liability questions by noting a review is underway but provides no commitment.
We want the very best information available and only then will we make a decision.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the question about games and re-gifting by attacking the question and past Liberal record.
I am afraid these kinds of nonsensical questions will only stop when the House ceases sitting.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.The answer turns to attacking the Liberal record and quoting the asker instead of addressing the minister's conduct in Bali.
The deputy leader also said: I accept the point just so it's clear... the next... Kyoto phase has got to have mandatory emission controls for all [major emitters] otherwise the agreement's not going to work.
- misdirectedGovernment AppointmentsMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the asker personally and demands an apology rather than addressing the OPP communications question.
He should show one iota of class and graciously apologize to the minister.
- misdirectedGovernment AppointmentsMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer accuses the asker of suggesting a cover-up and insults him instead of answering the yes-or-no question on communications.
It is an embarrassment to Parliament. He is not a rat pack; he is just a sad hack.
- partly answeredForestry IndustryMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the request for $1 billion by citing existing investments exceeding that amount.
It is $1.3 billion in accelerated capital cost allowance, which was announced in the budget in March.
- deflectedForestry IndustryMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the forestry proposals and pivots to debt repayment.
However, for the member opposite, in terms of a surplus, yes, we have an operating surplus, but we have a public debt in Canada, built up in the seventies, eighties and nineties, of well in excess of $400 billion.
- deflectedOfficial LanguagesMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the Labour Code question by accusing the asker of pointless confrontation.
I invite the Bloc to heed Mr. Landry's sage advice. The former Parti Québécois premier of Quebec asked the troops to cease provoking pointless confrontations.
- deflectedOfficial LanguagesMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the accusation by restating commitment to official languages without addressing the bill.
The Bloc could have supported us when we announced consultations.
- misdirectedGovernment AppointmentsMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks Liberal members by name and demands apologies instead of addressing the RCMP question.
The following are members who have been complicit in dragging this smear on for months and they should apologize: the members for Ajax—Pickering , Hull—Aylmer , Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine , Mississauga—Erindale , Halifax West , Vancouver Centre , York West , Beauséjour , and Saint Boniface .
- misdirectedGovernment AppointmentsMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats the OPP quote and again demands apologies rather than confirming any internal investigation.
Opposition members should apologize to the minister and to this House, and if they wish to persist in these smears, in the context of being cleared by the police, they should do it outside and face the consequences.
- partly answeredEthicsDiane Marleau (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes the ethics committee process and Johnston's role but does not confirm documents were provided.
there is a process in place that is now at the ethics committee.
- deflectedEthicsDiane Marleau (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question as incredible and redirects to letting Johnston work without addressing documents or shredding.
it is incredible, the questions that come from the Liberal Party of Canada today.
- deflectedFederal Accountability ActMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists past achievements instead of addressing the specific unfulfilled promises listed.
The Federal Accountability Act is the toughest anti-corruption legislation in Canadian history.
- misdirectedFederal Accountability ActMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner for killing the process instead of addressing current appointments.
that member has the audacity and the nerve to stand up in the House to ask why the public appointments commissioner was not in place when it was that member and his party who killed that process.
- deflectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMaurizio Bevilacqua (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates comparisons to the prior government and lists programs without addressing funding shortfalls or broken promises.
we are very proud of our record on immigration, especially when we compare it to the one of the previous government.
- deflectedChalk River Nuclear FacilitiesMs. Ruby Dhalla (Liberal) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses general expert selection and thanks participants but avoids confirming the appointee's partisan role.
The deputy minister provided those names.
- partly answeredTourist IndustryBryon Wilfert (Liberal) asked Diane Ablonczy (Conservative). loaded question.The answer acknowledges negotiations take time and ongoing talks but does not explain the delay or prior agreement status.
- partly answeredCanadian ForcesMr. Francis Scarpaleggia (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes priority to family and intent to deliver packages but provides no specific plan or timeline for Christmas delivery.
we will endeavour to get these packages to soldiers.
- deflectedPort InfrastructureMr. Raynald Blais (Bloc) asked Loyola Hearn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer uses a Santa Claus metaphor without stating any funding amount or commitment.
When the fat, jolly fellow comes to put toys in his stocking, I depend on another short, fat, jolly person to put money in my stocking and we will see what happens.
- answeredInfrastructureMr. Gérard Asselin (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states no application has been received and points to the new infrastructure program as the funding route.
we have not officially received an application.
- answeredAgriculture and Agri-FoodMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.The answer confirms new federal funding of $600 million to be delivered in January for the pork sector.
We have put $600 million of new federal money only into play that will be delivered to this sector in January.
- misdirectedHealthMr. Don Bell (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to a specific disease and attacks Liberal premiers instead of addressing the rare disorders policy request.
If the Liberal Party wishes to press the Liberal premiers that exist in this country to work with us, that would be of great help to us.
- deflectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Answer promises to investigate but offers no explanation for the policy or decisions cited.
I assure you that this government will respect Canada's two official languages.
- deflectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMs. Denise Savoie (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Answer again promises review without addressing the systemic concern or the minister's responsibility.
I can assure Canadians that as a government we are committed to respecting both official languages in this country.
- misdirectedPoints of OrderMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer reframes the request as opposition parties needing to take responsibility rather than retracting the statement.
They blocked that appointment, which is why this commission has not proceeded.
- misdirectedPoints of OrderMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the member with accusations of smears instead of tabling the requested document.
I am really surprised because I thought the member was getting up to apologize finally for the smears that he continues to make.
- answeredHon. member for Westmount—Ville-MarieMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). rhetorical question.No actual question is posed; both sides deliver matching tributes without substantive inquiry.
These values are what have always defined her.