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Friday, November 30, 2007 · sitting No. 28

House debates budget bill as Liberals tout past fiscal record

Government Orders on the Budget and Economic Statement Implementation Act, 2007, consumed the largest share of the sitting. Liberal MP Bryon Wilfert said the Conservative government inherited a strong fiscal framework from Liberal management that eliminated the deficit and paid down debt. Conservative MP Ken Epp countered that the Liberals had inherited a deficit, not a debt, and that borrowing had increased under previous Conservative governments.

Question Period featured repeated exchanges on lobbying. Liberal MP Dominic LeBlanc asked whether Brian Mulroney or his associates had contacted ministers or officials on wireless spectrum policy. Conservative MP Peter Van Loan said lobbyists must register under the Federal Accountability Act and that decisions were made in the interest of consumers.

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Who held the floor · 2007-11-30

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 32%, opposition 68% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodRoutine proceedingsGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:00Last speech 13:20Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 3 h 15 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
31Another sitting that went nowhereThe House devoted nearly half its time to the budget implementation act and scattered policy questions yet recorded no votes or bill progress. With most question-period replies deflected and only minor calls to order, the day yielded debate without decisions.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Forestry Industry

Bloc Québécois MP Monique Guay pressed the government to announce a forestry assistance plan during the finance minister's visit to Quebec. Conservative MP Lawrence Cannon said the government had already announced more than $400 million for forestry workers.

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Nuclear Energy

NDP MP Jack Layton asked why Canada joined the Global Nuclear Energy Partnership without a House vote. Conservative MP Gary Lunn said the voluntary partnership expands proliferation-resistant technology and that Canada will never accept spent fuel from other countries.

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Infrastructure

Liberal MP Paul Zed said the building Canada fund recycles previous Liberal programs. Conservative MP Lawrence Cannon listed new allocations including $8.8 billion for the building Canada fund and an eight-billion-dollar gas-tax extension.

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Veterans Affairs

NDP MP Peter Stoffer asked when atomic veterans would receive compensation for Nevada testing. Conservative MP Greg Thompson said the government would respond fairly, as it had on agent orange.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Wireless IndustryDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directs inquiry to the Registrar and pivots to consumer benefits without confirming or denying contacts.The question the member raises is a question that should be raised with the Registrar of Lobbyists.
  2. deflected
    Wireless IndustryDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer reiterates lobbyist responsibility and shifts to policy outcomes instead of addressing reporting by ministers.It includes a lobbyist registrar who is responsible for dealing with lobbyist registration.
  3. deflected
    Wireless IndustryDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats lobbyist registration duties and consumer benefits without addressing the specific meetings or invitations.It is the responsibility of lobbyists to obtain the proper qualifications.
  4. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer acknowledges meetings and notes CSR efforts but does not explain the choice of Barrick despite the stated controversies.as is the case when the Prime Minister or ministers of the government travel abroad, we do meet with Canadians doing business and investing abroad.
  5. misdirected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks prior Liberal practices and pivots to general economic promotion rather than addressing Mulroney's involvement or tabling records.for many, many years the practice of lobbying under the Liberal government was something that brought shame to this country and our political system in an actual culture of corruption
  6. answered
    Forestry IndustryMs. Monique Guay (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly references the announced $400 million program for forestry workers.The Minister of Natural Resources has announced a program worth over $400 million to help these forestry workers.
  7. misdirected
    Forestry IndustryMs. Monique Guay (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the Bloc Québécois for voting against measures instead of addressing the call for new forestry assistance.the only people in Parliament who have no heart are the members of the Bloc Québécois, who for years now have accomplished exactly nothing in this House.
  8. misdirected
    Forestry IndustryMs. Pauline Picard (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer criticizes the Bloc for not reading documents and repeats that action has been taken without detailing new measures.The only problem in this House is that the members of the Bloc Québécois do not take the time to read, the time to see what is being done, the time to do anything, full stop.
  9. deflected
    Forestry IndustryMs. Pauline Picard (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes ecotrust funding instead of addressing creation of a carbon exchange.This is action. They call for action and that is what we deliver.
  10. deflected
    Nuclear EnergyJack Layton (NDP) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer describes the partnership but ignores the promise of a parliamentary vote.the Global Nuclear Energy Partnership that we are signing on to is a voluntary agreement to actually expand technology, to reduce spent nuclear fuel and to develop technology that is proliferation resistant.
  11. deflected
    Nuclear EnergyJack Layton (NDP) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes leadership and attacks the NDP instead of answering yes or no on a vote.I find it completely ridiculous that the NDP would not want us to be there.
  12. misdirected
    LobbyistsRobert Thibault (Liberal) asked Mr. Rob Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the member for speaking in the House and cites courts rather than addressing the project cancellation.it is always interesting to see that the hon. member, when he is under the protection of the House, feels quite free to say things that he would never say outside the House.
  13. partly answered
    LobbyistsRobert Thibault (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses recent meetings but omits the period when the minister held foreign affairs.neither the Minister of Public Works and Government Services, nor the Minister of National Defence , nor I have met with Fred Doucet to talk about this matter.
  14. deflected
    EthicsJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses relevance to the government instead of providing the fax details requested.It obviously has no involvement of the Minister of National Defence .
  15. deflected
    EthicsJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats denial of knowledge but does not address disclosure of conflicts.He had no knowledge of that letter.
  16. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the Liberal record instead of addressing the carbon market beyond 2012.My question is why he would support greenhouse gas emissions increasing, which was the Liberal plan.
  17. partly answered
    Natural ResourcesMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.Addresses provincial choice and nuclear safety but ignores the call for a U-turn to clean energy.it is up to the provinces to decide on their own energy mix.
  18. partly answered
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMs. Meili Faille (Bloc) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). substantive question.Notes review of ruling but does not address renegotiation of the agreement.the safe third agreement continues to remain in effect.
  19. deflected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMs. Meili Faille (Bloc) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). substantive question.Repeats prior points without addressing negotiation of a new agreement.The agreement continues to remain in effect.
  20. misdirected
    AirbusKaren Redman (Liberal) asked Mr. Rob Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Shifts to court process instead of identifying who shut down the review.The issue is before the courts and it would be inappropriate to comment.
  21. deflected
    AirbusKaren Redman (Liberal) asked Mr. Rob Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Labels question irresponsible and points to inquiry without naming the responsible party.Our government and the Prime Minister have done the responsible thing.
  22. deflected
    InfrastructureMr. Paul Zed (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.Highlights new funding but avoids addressing the minister's past quote on slashing infrastructure.we put an unprecedented amount of money forward to be able to address the infrastructure needs in the country.
  23. deflected
    InfrastructureMr. Paul Zed (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.Lists funding amounts but does not address the claim of recycled Liberal programs.
  24. misdirected
    AfghanistanMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.Criticizes Liberals instead of providing projected total cost by February 2009.Unlike the Liberals who starved the armed forces and did not give them the right tools, this government is working to provide the soldiers with what they need for an effective mission in Afghanistan.
  25. deflected
    AfghanistanMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the requested combat-to-aid spending ratio and instead repeats general talking points on resources and democracy.It is all about making Afghanistan a democratic country, and as a world member, it is absolutely important that we provide these resources to our armed forces.
  26. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner personally rather than addressing the Bali conference or Kyoto stance.I would encourage him to stop watching so much of the Travel Channel.
  27. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question as pathetic and pivots to attacking the prior Liberal record instead of addressing Canada's leadership on emissions.
  28. partly answered
    Forestry IndustryMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists past spending and programs but does not specify what further action would be taken in response to the new closures.
  29. partly answered
    Forestry IndustryMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes meetings and existing support measures but does not address why the federal government will not match Quebec's targeted assistance.We recognize we do need to do more.
  30. answered
    FirearmsMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Mr. Dave MacKenzie (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly confirms the two-year deferral of the marking regulations.on consultation with stakeholders and requests from Liberal MPs, the government decided to defer the firearms marking regulations until December 1, 2009.
  31. answered
    FirearmsMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Mr. Dave MacKenzie (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states the deferral date and explains the purpose of consultations with law enforcement and industry.Our decision to defer it will allow us to consult with law enforcement agencies and industry in order to look at all the options for marking and to examine similar initiatives in other countries.
  32. deflected
    JusticeMr. Mario Silva (Liberal) asked Mr. Rob Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids addressing the execution or torture cases and instead claims superior human-rights record while citing an appeal.no government, especially the previous government, has stood for international human rights, as well as human rights here in Canada, more than our government.
  33. misdirected
    Veterans AffairsMr. Peter Stoffer (NDP) asked Greg Thompson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP's voting record instead of addressing the compensation timeline for atomic veterans.It voted against a bill of rights. It voted against an ombudsman for veterans.
  34. partly answered
    Veterans AffairsMr. Peter Stoffer (NDP) asked Greg Thompson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses agent orange and VIP commitments but does not fully respond on atomic veterans compensation.We responded to it fairly and compassionately.
  35. deflected
    National DefenceKeith Martin (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer dismisses the question as speculative and insults the asker rather than addressing the contract award process.my colleague from Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca is close to setting the indoor record for missing the point on this file.
  36. deflected
    Federal Government Research CentresMr. Richard Nadeau (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer congratulates Gatineau on an unrelated event and reframes the issue around the national capital region instead of addressing research centre promises.I would like to begin by joining my colleagues from Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel and Hull—Aylmer in congratulating the City of Gatineau on its winning submission to host the Quebec Summer Games.
  37. answered
    Points of OrderMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Mr. Tom Lukiwski (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states that the minister was not reading from a document and thus nothing exists to table.Clearly, Mr. Speaker, the minister was not reading from a document. There is nothing to table.