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Monday, December 3, 2007 · sitting No. 29

Commons advances budget bill amid opposition attacks on broken promises

The House spent the largest share of its time on second reading of Bill C-28, the Budget and Economic Statement Implementation Act, 2007. Liberal MP Paul Szabo said the government had repackaged earlier legislation and broken its word on the Atlantic accord, while NDP MP Peter Stoffer and Liberal MP Paul Szabo both cited unfulfilled commitments to veterans and seniors.

In Question Period, Liberal MP Stéphane Dion pressed the government on its refusal to recognize a two-degree temperature limit in climate talks, and Conservative MP John Baird replied that the previous Liberal government had allowed emissions to rise 32.9 per cent above targets. Other exchanges focused on spectrum auctions and the Mulroney-Schreiber affair.

Private members' business on Bill C-415, which would amend the Canada Labour Code to ban replacement workers, occupied a smaller portion of the sitting.

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Who held the floor · 2007-12-03

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 30%, opposition 70% of the words spokenPrivate membersGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 11:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:05Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 7 h 5 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
67Bills advance amid budget focusThe House devoted nearly all its time to substantive legislation, chiefly the budget implementation act, and moved five bills forward. Procedural interruptions were minimal and no votes were recorded.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Canada Labour Code

Bloc Québécois MP Carole Lavallée asked whether Liberal members would support Bill C-415, and Liberal MP Mario Silva replied that his party allows free votes on private members' bills.

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Budget and Economic Statement Implementation Act, 2007

Liberal MP Paul Szabo said the government had voted against health warning labels on alcoholic beverages and against a national strategy on fetal alcohol spectrum disorder.

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Wireless Industry

Liberal MP Scott Brison asked whether the former industry minister had been moved because he refused to favour Brian Mulroney's company, and Conservative MP Jim Prentice replied that he had never met or spoken with Mulroney about spectrum.

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Landmines

Liberal MP Bryon Wilfert said 122 countries had signed the Ottawa convention ten years earlier and that casualties had fallen sharply as a result.

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Official Languages

Bloc Québécois MP Yvon Godin asked why the Prime Minister had rejected restoring the court challenges program before appointing Bernard Lord to lead consultations, and Conservative MP Pierre Lemieux replied that the government was keeping its promise to consult communities.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    The EnvironmentStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer attacks Dion's record and restates government commitments instead of addressing why science is allegedly ignored.that is interesting coming from the man who oversaw a 32.9% increase above our targets in the last protocol.
  2. deflected
    The EnvironmentStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to criticizing past Liberal inaction rather than explaining the stance on the two-degree threshold.We saw far too many reports and far too little action from the previous government.
  3. misdirected
    The EnvironmentStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly insults Dion personally and shifts to past failures instead of addressing the Bali stance.it is just a bit rich to have that member of Parliament, a former minister of the environment, the man whose own deputy leader said he did not get it done, lecture this government on targets.
  4. partly answered
    The EnvironmentMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states willingness for binding targets while requiring major emitters to participate, addressing the core question.we are prepared to commit to binding targets in any forum around the world.
  5. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks Liberal deputy leader's past statements instead of addressing the Bali targets question.Let us look at the deputy leader of the Liberal Party.
  6. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates need for all major emitters without addressing the two-degree threshold or the internal note.we think it is mandatory for all wealthy countries like Canada, and the major emitters like China, India and the United States, to take action together.
  7. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer emphasizes urgency of action and past reports but avoids reconciling the Europe-Canada standard discrepancy.The reports mention that the planet has already warmed up by 0.6 ºC.
  8. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats position on including all emitters without addressing oil companies or scientific consensus claims.it is absolutely clear that any agreement to fight climate change must include targets for all countries, especially such large emitters as China, India and the United States.
  9. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The response promotes government actions without addressing the accusation about opposition exclusion or denying science.It is imperative that we not wait for temperatures to rise by two degrees.
  10. answered
    The EnvironmentJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states that a 2° rise is unacceptable and references UN reports.a rise of 2° in the earth's temperature as a result of human activity contributing to global warming, simply put, is unacceptable.
  11. deflected
    The EnvironmentJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The response blames the previous Liberal government and outlines new plans instead of addressing Kyoto obligations or penalties.I cannot take responsibility for the failures of the previous administration.
  12. misdirected
    Wireless IndustryScott Brison (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies the meeting but attacks the asker for opposing competition rather than addressing the shuffle claim.The real question is the hon. member for Kings—Hants seems to be the only one who is opposed to more competition
  13. misdirected
    Wireless IndustryScott Brison (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.The response attacks Liberal economic policies and the asker instead of addressing the loan or spectrum decisions.the hon. member will never be sitting on this side of the House as long as the Liberals subscribe to Liberal Party backwater economics.
  14. misdirected
    AirbusSue Barnes (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question as irrelevancies and smear tactics without addressing the timeline of leery feelings.It is really time opposition members get off this kind of smear tactic and deal with the serious issues facing our country.
  15. misdirected
    AirbusSue Barnes (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer accuses the asker of smear tactics and references personal age instead of addressing recusal or interventions.If the member opposite wants to continue to engage in fear and smear, she will have plenty of time to do that.
  16. answered
    Nuclear EnergyMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the decision is about international cooperation not energy source selection by provinces, addressing why no parliamentary vote.That is a matter for the provinces to decide, and we completely accept their decision in that regard.
  17. deflected
    Nuclear EnergyMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies the premise outright and pivots to provincial jurisdiction without addressing federal promotion or the lack of debate.nothing could be further from the truth. The hon. member should know this is purely a provincial decision to decide on its energy mix.
  18. deflected
    Court Challenges ProgramMr. Richard Nadeau (Bloc) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights the new appointment but ignores the explicit question about restoring the court challenges program.Our government made a promise and we are keeping it.
  19. deflected
    Court Challenges ProgramMs. Nicole Demers (Bloc) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). loaded question.The answer praises the process and Mr. Lord without addressing the credibility concern tied to the prior rejection of the program.Official language communities want to participate in the process we are undertaking.
  20. answered
    Public Works and Government ServicesMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly responds to the specific question about contacts with the minister.
  21. answered
    Blackstone Equity GroupJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly denies any discussions with Mr. Mulroney on the topics raised.I have never had any discussions with Mr. Mulroney about the subject of spectrum option, telecommunications or Blackstone in any way at any time on any occasion.
  22. answered
    Archer Daniels MidlandWayne Easter (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses whether discussions occurred with the minister on the Canadian Wheat Board or ADM matters.Brian Mulroney has never had any discussion with me about the Canadian Wheat Board, about barley or about any other grain or oilseed.
  23. misdirected
    Barrick Gold CorporationMaria Minna (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the opposition rather than addressing the question about dealings with Mr. Mulroney or Barrick.When we look at the pathetic fishing expedition the Liberals are on, we can understand why the fisheries were in such trouble under the Liberal government.
  24. deflected
    Official LanguagesMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the appointment and process but does not address the patronage accusation or payment details.This is going to be led by Bernard Lord, an eminently qualified individual.
  25. misdirected
    Official LanguagesMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner for being stuck on one program instead of addressing the recommendations.every time we want to call in witnesses from the official language communities to discuss their priorities and their concerns, that member shoots it down because he is stuck on the court challenges program.
  26. deflected
    InfrastructureMr. Paul Zed (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer promotes the building Canada fund without addressing the claimed cut or when mayors get money.Once again he is ignoring the work that this government did with the Federation of Canadian Municipalities to set up the building Canada fund.
  27. misdirected
    InfrastructureMr. Paul Zed (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer refuses numbers and instead attacks the opposition leader with an insulting historical comparison.Contrary to the Leader of the Opposition who over the weekend compared himself to General Kutuzov, the Russian who burned Moscow, we are building towns in this country.
  28. deflected
    Minister of the Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of QuebecMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer justifies policy and attacks Liberals but does not explain preference for private flights over the limousine.the minister's actions are in line with the department's policy for small aircraft rental.
  29. answered
    Minister of the Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of QuebecMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the flight logs and lists specific regional visits made.In April 2007 alone, the minister went to central Quebec, northern Quebec, Abitibi-Témiscamingue, the Lower St. Lawrence, the Eastern Townships, Montérégie, and Laval—Laurentides—Lanaudière.
  30. answered
    Older WorkersMr. Yves Lessard (Bloc) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the purpose of the pilot project and the data-gathering timeline.It is put in place so data can be gathered to make a determination about the future of that type of programming.
  31. misdirected
    Older WorkersMr. Yves Lessard (Bloc) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to questioning the member's faith in Quebec people rather than addressing a program for older workers.I think the real question is, when is the member going to have some faith in the people of Quebec?
  32. deflected
    Federal-Provincial RelationsMr. Anthony Rota (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights consultation and the new program while ignoring the question about insults and fairness.We consulted the province and we consulted the Canadian Federation of Municipalities.
  33. partly answered
    InfrastructureMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists specific Ottawa projects funded but does not address the broader demand to increase federal infrastructure support beyond those measures.I think that over the course of the last couple of months we have done darn good for the cities and the communities across this country, particularly Ottawa.
  34. deflected
    InfrastructureMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to criticizing past Liberal actions and party history instead of addressing the property tax increase question.Those folks on the other side of the House, for a number of years, were bickering.
  35. deflected
    Democratic ReformMr. Francis Scarpaleggia (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the insult question entirely and instead attacks the Liberal Party's position on representation.I do not know where the Liberal Party is coming from.
  36. answered
    Canadian HeritageMs. Louise Thibault (Independent) asked Jim Abbott (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the reason for discontinuing the service and states that private corporations will provide the same service.We have put in place a relationship with private corporations that can do exactly the same thing and perform exactly the same service.
  37. misdirected
    Veterans AffairsMr. Peter Stoffer (NDP) asked Greg Thompson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner for piggybacking rather than addressing the VIP or agent orange compensation issues.I say shame on the member for piggybacking and tailgating.
  38. answered
    AirbusRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states there are no known cabinet discussions on the matter.