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Thursday, October 25, 2007 · sitting No. 8
Liberals move supply day motion on productivity and taxes
The House spent most of the day on a Liberal opposition motion that called for investments in infrastructure, research, post-secondary education and immigrant skills while criticizing Conservative tax and income-trust policies. John McCallum moved the motion and argued that Liberal economic policy aims to build a richer Canada over the medium term, contrasting it with what he called Conservative cuts and NDP protectionism.
Scott Brison and Mike Wallace traded accusations over budget 2007 spending on universities and research, with McCallum replying that the government had merely restored reduced Liberal programs under new names. The motion remained before the House at adjournment.
In Question Period, Michael Ignatieff pressed Peter Van Loan on Conservative election spending and a court challenge against Elections Canada, while Van Loan countered that the Liberals had chosen to keep the government in office.
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Who held the floor · 2007-10-25
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Elections Canada
Michael Ignatieff said Conservatives had overspent their campaign limit by about $1 million and were seeking rebates they had no right to claim, and Peter Van Loan replied that the Liberal leader had given the government a mandate to govern.
Read the exchangeAfghanistan
Gilles Duceppe questioned the hiring of Saladin and Blackwater, citing past scandals, and Peter Van Loan said the contracts were for basic local security duties under long-standing practice.
Read the exchangeUnemployed Workers
Yves Lessard asked why Conservative Quebec members had done nothing for forestry and manufacturing workers despite an EI surplus of $54 billion, and Monte Solberg said the government had enhanced benefits, cut premiums and created jobs in Quebec.
Read the exchangePublic Works and Government Services
Mark Holland accused the government of selling buildings it was not allowed to sell and losing millions, and James Moore said all relevant First Nations had been consulted and the sales served taxpayers' interests.
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Judy Wasylycia-Leis asked why the minister could do no more than set up a website for dangerous products, and Tony Clement said the government would act after 13 years of Liberal inaction.
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- deflectedElections CanadaMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores the cost question and pivots to Liberal voting record instead.
It was his choice to give us a mandate to govern.
- deflectedElections CanadaMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer evades the rebate and lawsuit cost questions by restating the mandate claim.
Our campaign financing activities are entirely legal.
- deflectedElections CanadaMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer again avoids any direct response by repeating the prior election mandate point.
He had an option, Sir, and he chose to give this government a mandate to govern.
- misdirectedElections CanadaRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer dismisses the question rather than addressing enforcement of the Elections Act.
it is very difficult to take these questions seriously because the members of that party clearly do not take them seriously themselves.
- misdirectedElections CanadaRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the prior Liberal government instead of addressing the spending limit breach.
That is why that party is not in government any more.
- partly answeredAfghanistanMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses the nature of the contracts but not the specific past allegations about Saladin.
these are contracts under which local security officers are hired for basic security duties.
- answeredAfghanistanMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly explains the training use of Blackwater facilities since 2003.
We have used training services in this area since 2003, because the armed forces do not offer this training.
- answeredAfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses the embassy security hiring and training standards directly.
Those people are well trained and perform the duties of security officers.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids any commitment on canceling or tabling contracts by pivoting to safety risks and past practices.
by asking me to table security contracts in the House, my hon. colleague is asking me to jeopardize the safety of our diplomats at the embassy in Kabul.
- deflectedAfghanistanJack Layton (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer sidesteps the specific timeline question by deferring to a future independent commission report.
established an independent commission to study the issue and provide advice to the government.
- misdirectedAfghanistanJack Layton (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer disputes the premise but then attacks the question by claiming the asker does not support the troops.
We hope that all members of the House will also support the work being done by our development workers and our troops.
- deflectedElections CanadaMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer refuses to confirm details and instead attacks the opposition for not acting on the issue.
If those members took it seriously they would have acted that way this week.
- deflectedElections CanadaMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the accusation without addressing the specific claim about bullying candidates.
The Liberals are afraid to admit it but they do not believe their own accusations on this.
- deflectedElections CanadaDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids citing any section of the Act and instead attacks the opposition's credibility.
nobody believes their accusations.
- deflectedElections CanadaDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats a blanket claim of legality without addressing the request for disclosure or citing the Act.
All our practices follow the Elections Act.
- partly answeredUnemployed WorkersMr. Yves Lessard (Bloc) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists some general measures taken but does not explain why no specific help was given to forestry and manufacturing workers.
we have enhanced benefits and have cut premiums.
- deflectedUnemployed WorkersMr. Yves Lessard (Bloc) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges intent to improve EI governance but pivots to criticizing 1970s programs instead of addressing the call to create an independent fund.
we will never find the solutions necessary for 2007 in the programs of the 1970s.
- partly answeredForeign AffairsMs. Caroline St-Hilaire (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.Answer states the report will be studied and followed up on, directly addressing the timeline question though without specifics.
We will study this report and follow up on it in due time.
- deflectedForeign AffairsMs. Caroline St-Hilaire (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates general human rights policy without engaging the premise about inaction or profit priority.
we defend human rights and freedom of expression.
- misdirectedGovernment AppointmentsMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to attacking Liberal patronage practices rather than confirming any OPP contacts or investigations.
The Liberal Party continues to engage in a practice where it thinks it is a scandal when patronage is not handed out.
- partly answeredFood and Product SafetyMs. Judy Wasylycia-Leis (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Answer commits to acting on product safety per the throne speech but declines the offer with a partisan jab instead of engaging on legislation.
I have never seen a good law drafted by the NDP so I might decline her offer.
- deflectedFood and Product SafetyMs. Judy Wasylycia-Leis (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Answer highlights the website and past Liberal inaction but avoids committing to stronger legislative powers or inspections.
After 13 long years of Liberal inaction, we will act.
- answeredPublic SafetyMs. Yasmin Ratansi (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states the action taken to address the request about removing Arar from the list.
I wrote a letter today to my counterpart in the United States, the secretary of Homeland Security asking, in light of what the secretary of state said, for them to reconsider their designation of Mr. Arar and remove him from those look-out lists.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMs. Yasmin Ratansi (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). loaded question.The response avoids the current status by repeatedly blaming the prior Liberal government and restating past actions.
the situation with Mr. Arar, which took place entirely under the Liberal regime, is something that we took very seriously.
- partly answeredAir TransportationSue Barnes (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the U.S. regulation context but does not clarify what happens to the remaining 20% of flights.
We have been consulted. We continue to work in order to exonerate Canadians from being put on this list.
- deflectedAir TransportationSue Barnes (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The response gives general assurances without addressing data use or specific guarantees for travelers to Cuba.
we are confident that Canada and the U.S. will be able to work out a solution, so that it will enable Canadians to fly safely and securely across the continent.
- answeredSecuritiesMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the planned committee and model bill process respecting jurisdictions.
As such, a committee will be struck to draft a model bill that we will discuss with our provincial colleagues.
- deflectedSecuritiesMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The response repeats the jurisdictional respect point without engaging the demand to drop the plan or defend Quebec specifically.
There will be a panel reporting to the ministers of finance with respect to a draft, a model bill, that we could use as a basis for discussion, not for a federal regulator but for a common regulator shared among the jurisdictions in Canada.
- partly answeredAir TransportationMr. Mario Silva (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes ongoing work and the passenger protect program but does not address standing up against the U.S. requirement.
We are working with a set of circumstances where, of course, we want to ensure that these regulations have a minimum effect on Canadians.
- answeredHousingMr. Bill Siksay (NDP) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly lists the housing trust and homelessness partnering strategy as the actions taken.
That is why we put in place a housing trust that will provide homes for tens of thousands of people over the next few years.
- deflectedHousingMr. Bill Siksay (NDP) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists existing programs but never addresses when a national housing strategy will be announced.
We are acting, whereas the member who is concerned about this obviously is simply flapping his gums.
- partly answeredInfrastructureMr. Brian Murphy (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes ongoing discussions with New Brunswick but does not commit to restoration of the river.
We are currently discussing this issue with the Government of New Brunswick.
- deflectedSocial HousingMr. Christian Ouellet (Bloc) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The answer recites current spending figures and then shifts to criticizing the previous Liberal government.
I have to point out that it was the leader of the Liberal Party who admitted, not awfully long ago, that it was his party that downloaded a lot of the funding for housing to the provinces back in the 1990s.
- misdirectedVeterans AffairsMr. Peter Stoffer (NDP) asked Greg Thompson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the specific veteran benefit questions and instead attacks the NDP's voting record.
that member and his party have no credibility on issues pertaining to veterans or men and women in uniform or the military.