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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 · sitting No. 7
Bloc to oppose throne speech as MPs resume debate
The House resumed debate on the address in reply to the Speech from the Throne, the item that consumed the largest share of sitting time. Bloc Québécois MP Pierre Paquette said the party would vote against the speech because it fails to meet five conditions set by the party and gives insufficient weight to issues such as poverty and the forestry crisis. NDP MP Jack Layton told the House the throne speech offers nothing for students, manufacturing or child care and sets the wrong direction for Canada.
In Question Period the main exchanges concerned alleged Conservative election financing irregularities. Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion challenged the Prime Minister to state what he knew of the scheme and when he knew it. Government House Leader Peter Van Loan said all Conservative election financing activities are legal.
Other exchanges dealt with contracts awarded to private security firms for work in Afghanistan and with the retail price gap between Canada and the United States.
Decided that day
- Bill C-287 on National Peacekeepers' Day passed
- Address to the Governor General passed
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Who held the floor · 2007-10-24
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Afghanistan
Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe asked why the government had contracted Blackwater to train soldiers in Afghanistan after the firm was linked to civilian deaths in Iraq. Prime Minister Stephen Harper replied that the contracts cover only security guard services at the embassy in Kabul.
Read the exchangeMinister of Finance
Liberal MP John McCallum accused Finance Minister Jim Flaherty of political posturing on retail prices after reversing an earlier threat to force retailers to match U.S. levels. Flaherty said several large retailers have already announced price reductions.
Read the exchangeAutomobile Industry
Liberal MP Scott Brison said the government still lacks a plan for the auto industry and called for a five-year accelerated capital cost allowance. Industry Minister Jim Prentice said the opposition had voted against the two-year measure already in place.
Read the exchangeStatus of Women
Bloc Québécois MP Nicole Demers demanded that Status of Women Minister Josée Verner apologize to women's groups for program cuts and office closures. Verner said the groups had told her office they do not wish to be drawn into Bloc politics.
Read the exchangeEqualization
Liberal MP Gerry Byrne asked whether a secret side deal with Nova Scotia still imposes a cap on equalization payments. Finance Minister Jim Flaherty said the government has honoured the Atlantic accords and introduced per capita transfers as requested by the provinces.
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- misdirectedElections CanadaStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer insults the asker with a literary reference instead of addressing the PM's role in the alleged scheme.
Walter Mitty over there is having some delusions of grandeur.
- deflectedElections CanadaStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The response restates that activities follow the law without addressing the requested promises or clarification of the PM's role.
Our election financing activities are entirely legal and we know that they are because they follow the law.
- misdirectedElections CanadaStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the yes-or-no question by making a sarcastic personal remark about the asker's age.
I think perhaps the Liberal member for Laval—Les Îles was correct when she said that perhaps he is too old to change.
- misdirectedElections CanadaMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer diverts to attacking the Liberal Party's past financing instead of addressing the requested commitment on in-and-out financing.
What they are dramatically different from is the election financing practices of that party, which are to dip into taxpayers' dollars to the tune of over $40 million, to use that, steal it, and use it for its campaigns.
- misdirectedElections CanadaMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The response avoids the question about triggering an election to hide issues and instead criticizes the Liberals.
The Liberal Party of Canada may be in a position to have some moral authority to ask questions on election financing once it finally returns the 40 million taxpayer dollars the Gomery commission found missing that went into Liberal coffers.
- answeredAfghanistanMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains that the contracts are for security guard services and not military activities.
these are contracts for security guard services.
- answeredAfghanistanMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The response clarifies that the hires are traditional security guards for the embassy in Kabul.
We have hired security guards for the Canadian embassy in Kabul.
- partly answeredAfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the tendering process but does not confirm whether a background check on Saladin's past activities occurred.
these contracts were awarded through a very clear public tendering process, a comprehensive process that respects the rules and legislation.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses general transparency and accountability but ignores the specific query on mercenaries' backgrounds.
These contracts were awarded properly through a call for tenders.
- misdirectedGovernment ProgramsJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question by disagreeing with every word and pivots to attacking the asker's stance rather than addressing policies.
all I can say is that I do not agree with a single word the leader of the NDP said but I do know where he stands.
- deflectedGovernment ProgramsJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates government priorities without addressing the specific omissions listed in the question about students, manufacturing, and families.
the Speech from the Throne sets out good priorities for Canada.
- deflectedMinister of FinanceJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the question about political posturing and instead makes a sarcastic self-deprecating joke about being an elf.
as the member opposite knows, I am, at best, a mere elf, which brings me to the Christmas season.
- misdirectedMinister of FinanceJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the opposition's GST position instead of addressing the listed policy failures of the finance minister.
the member opposite is a wizard at one thing and so is his leader.
- partly answeredAutomobile IndustryScott Brison (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the auto sector challenges and mentions collaboration but does not present a specific plan of action.
We spent extensive time working together with Mr. Hargrove and with other people from the industry and all the presidents of the companies.
- misdirectedAutomobile IndustryScott Brison (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to attacking the Liberals' voting record instead of addressing the request for a five-year capital cost allowance extension.
It has been the opposition, the Liberals.
- deflectedUNESCOMr. Maka Kotto (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the historical question about the UNESCO agreement and shifts to promoting the Francophonie summit.
I will be attending the first Francophonie Summit held in Africa.
- deflectedUNESCOMr. Maka Kotto (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The minister restates general funding criteria without addressing the specific procedure used on October 5, 2006.
Our programs are funded according to very specific criteria.
- deflectedStatus of WomenMs. Nicole Demers (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids apologizing and instead attacks the Bloc while pivoting to an unrelated funding example.
women's groups have called my office to let me know that they do not wish to become involved in the conflict
- misdirectedStatus of WomenMs. Nicole Demers (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). loaded question.The minister refuses to address the apology demand and instead attacks the questioner for playing politics.
it is the Bloc Québécois member who should apologize, for playing petty politics on the backs of women
- deflectedAutomobile IndustryJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked David Emerson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer denies an agreement exists and dismisses job-loss claims without addressing when the government will stand up for workers.
there is no free trade agreement with Korea.
- partly answeredAutomobile IndustryJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked David Emerson (Conservative). substantive question.The minister states focus on non-tariff barriers but does not commit to eliminating them before presenting any deal.
We clearly are focused on non-tariff barriers.
- deflectedEqualizationGerry Byrne (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer discusses per capita transfers without confirming or denying the existence of a cap in the Nova Scotia deal.
one of the fundamental principles that was involved in the equalization discussions and one of the requests was for per capita transfers.
- deflectedEqualizationGerry Byrne (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The minister claims the accords are honoured but does not explain the 50% versus 100% discrepancy or table legislation.
the accords are being honoured.
- partly answeredGovernment ContractsMs. Dawn Black (NDP) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses rules of engagement under Afghan law but ignores the request to table the contracts.
The security firm employed by the Canadian embassy in Kabul operates in accordance with Afghan law.
- deflectedGovernment ContractsMs. Dawn Black (NDP) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids any specific promise on aircraft or command and instead blames the NDP.
We are assessing options to mitigate the shortage of helicopters in Afghanistan, a shortage that has been exacerbated by the fact that the NDP has opposed any defence spending in this area.
- deflectedForeign AffairsDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer praises the guards and warns against partisanship but does not commit to tabling the contract.
That is the type of operations they are involved in; these are not military operations, and that is important to note.
- misdirectedForeign AffairsDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the Liberals' past actions and internal divisions rather than addressing the hiring of Blackwater.
There is therefore two positions within the Liberal Party: that of its official critic and that of the member opposite.
- deflectedAir TransportationSue Barnes (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.The answer simply denies the statement without clarifying what the 20% includes.
- deflectedAir TransportationSue Barnes (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates general cooperation with the US but ignores privacy, Cuba flights, and the terrorism rationale.
Our purpose is to ensure that Canadians can fly securely and safely, and that is the objective we are pursuing.
- partly answeredMinister of FinanceMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes one existing measure but does not address the specific Bloc proposals for tax credits or loans.
we have brought in a very generous accelerated capital cost allowance provision
- deflectedMinister of FinanceMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights positive statistics and calls for tax cuts instead of new actions on manufacturing.
the unemployment rate is as low as it has been in 33 years.
- partly answeredPost-Secondary EducationMr. Michael Savage (Liberal) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites an $800 million increase but spends most of the response attacking the Liberals' record.
The member has a lot of gall because it was his party that cut the Canada social transfer support for post-secondary education by $25 billion.
- misdirectedPublic Works and Government ServicesMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner's past statements instead of addressing whether the remaining building sales will be halted.
He was opposed to it, then he was in favour of it when it might benefit his riding.
- deflectedPublic Works and Government ServicesMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer dismisses the question with general praise for the deal and attacks on the NDP rather than addressing the specific cost example or accountability.
- partly answeredCanada Elections ActRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the ability to protect voting rights via adaptation powers but deflects on guaranteeing a legislative fix before an election.
he is confident he would be able to use his adaptation powers to ensure no Canadians lose their legal right to vote.
- partly answeredAgricultureWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims stability will exist but pivots to criticizing Liberal programs instead of confirming an extension of the programs.
Of course, about two-thirds of them that the Liberals put in are not worth saving.