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Tuesday, October 23, 2007 · sitting No. 6

Commons spends half day resuming debate on throne speech

The House devoted half its sitting to the resumption of debate on the address in reply to the Speech from the Throne. Bloc Québécois MP Réal Ménard told the House the Bloc was disappointed with the speech and set out conditions on justice and Kyoto protocol commitments. He said the party had expected the government to confirm it would reduce greenhouse gases to 1990 levels.

Question Period featured repeated exchanges on the Conservative election financing practices ruled illegal by Elections Canada. Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion asked what Prime Minister Stephen Harper knew about the scheme. Government House Leader Peter Van Loan replied that the financing activities were legal and consistent with practices of other parties.

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Who held the floor · 2007-10-23

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 41%, opposition 59% of the words spokenRoutine proceedingsSpeech from the ThroneQuestion PeriodSpeech from the Throne▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0011:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:00Last speech 17:50Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 7 h 50 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
53Debate dominates, answers scarceThe sitting devoted the bulk of its time to resuming debate on the Address in Reply, with little else advancing. Question period produced mostly deflected replies and several procedural interventions, while only a handful of bills were introduced.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Resumption of Debate on Address in Reply

Conservative MP Ken Epp asked Ménard about reverse onus provisions in Bill C-2. Ménard replied that American states that tried reverse onus later reversed their decision because indefinite incarceration is not automatic sentencing.

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Charter of the French Language

Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe said the federal government creates two classes of workers by refusing to recognize Bill 101 for those under the Canada Labour Code. Heritage Minister Josée Verner replied that Quebec has its own language legislation and the government promotes both official languages.

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Budget Statement

NDP Leader Jack Layton asked whether the Prime Minister would table a mini-budget with large tax cuts for big business. Harper replied that the budget will be presented in the spring and the government will cut taxes for all Canadians.

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Government Appointments

Liberal MP Marlene Jennings asked whether five participants in the Conservative election scheme were rewarded with federal jobs. Van Loan replied that the government always follows the law.

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Aboriginal Affairs

Liberal MP Anita Neville said overcrowding in first nations homes is almost double the Canadian rate and asked whether this is a human rights issue. Indian Affairs Minister Chuck Strahl replied that first nations deserve human rights on reserve now.

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Lumber Industry

Liberal MP Navdeep Bains said the softwood lumber agreement left $1 billion with the United States and asked whose side the government is on. International Trade Minister David Emerson replied that the agreement protects the industry against trade actions.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Elections CanadaStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the question about the Prime Minister's knowledge by challenging the asker to repeat the claim outside the House.I encourage him to have the courage of his convictions.
  2. deflected
    Elections CanadaStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer dismisses the premise and restates the government's position without addressing what the Prime Minister knew.We happen to believe that our election financing activities are entirely legal.
  3. misdirected
    Elections CanadaStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer turns to attacking the Liberal record instead of addressing Conservative knowledge or actions.It was investigated by the Gomery Commission, which made some pretty conclusive findings: $40 million missing through Liberal Party coffers.
  4. deflected
    Elections CanadaMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates a general claim of legality and truth-telling without addressing why the government is not disclosing details inside the House.On the matter of accountability, our record is clear and our election financing activities are entirely legal.
  5. deflected
    Elections CanadaMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer denies the allegation and asserts compliance with the law without explaining the Prime Minister's knowledge or actions.What we did was engage in financing activities in our campaigns that fully followed the law.
  6. misdirected
    Charter of the French LanguageMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the question by accusing the Bloc of creating conflict and pivots to an unrelated PQ bill.I would like the leader of the Bloc to tell us if he supports the new Quebec identity bill introduced by his colleague, Pauline Marois, leader of the Parti québécois.
  7. deflected
    Charter of the French LanguageMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The answer is an irrelevant statement about the Bloc website that does not engage with the question on classes of workers.In the weeks and months ahead, we will add the most important and most frequently consulted Bloc Québécois documents.
  8. deflected
    Charter of the French LanguageMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates the government's general respect for French without acknowledging any lack of political will to amend the Canada Labour Code.We respect the French language and its importance to Quebec.
  9. deflected
    Charter of the French LanguageMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to bilingual services instead of addressing the call to amend the Labour Code.Our role is to enable all Canadian workers to work in both official languages.
  10. answered
    Budget StatementJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states when the budget will be presented.the budget will be presented in the spring, as is the usual practice for this House and this government.
  11. deflected
    Budget StatementJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP premise rather than engaging the housing or tax-cut question.what this government understands, unlike the NDP, is they do not want the government to spend Canada into oblivion.
  12. deflected
    Government AppointmentsMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats a generic legal-compliance claim without addressing the specific appointments.There has been no change. We always follow the law.
  13. misdirected
    Government AppointmentsMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer accuses the asker of having facts wrong and shifts to comparing parties.the hon. member has her facts wrong.
  14. deflected
    Government AppointmentsDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question by claiming the opposition has nothing else to discuss.what is punishing is that the Liberals still have nothing to talk about, so I am left with the same answer.
  15. deflected
    Government AppointmentsDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer again claims legality and pivots to mocking the Liberal leader's speech.it is interesting that the Liberal Party thought so much of its leader's stirring response, his alternate throne speech this weekend, that I have not heard a single question on it yet.
  16. misdirected
    Status of WomenMs. Nicole Demers (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). loaded question.The answer counters by demanding an apology from the asker instead of addressing the alleged comments.The hon. member for Westmount is asking for an apology, but I think she is the one who should apologize for voting against our 2007 budget
  17. misdirected
    Status of WomenMs. Nicole Demers (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner rather than addressing the request for an apology.it is the hon. Bloc member who should apologize.
  18. partly answered
    International TradeMr. Serge Cardin (Bloc) asked David Emerson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses free trade negotiations but ignores the specific CAW study and job loss concerns raised.I can assure the hon. member that the government would not enter into a free trade agreement with Korea or any other country unless there were substantial benefits to Canada.
  19. deflected
    Manufacturing IndustryMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to general economic praise instead of addressing the requested manufacturing measures.After 21 months of Conservative government, we have a very strong economy.
  20. deflected
    AfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies secrecy but avoids committing to tabling the contract as asked.
  21. misdirected
    AfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.The answer accuses the member of distorting reality instead of addressing the hiring rationale.The hon. member for Bourassa is trying to distort reality.
  22. misdirected
    Aboriginal AffairsAnita Neville (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the member's past committee statements rather than addressing the UN declaration position.do we know what she said in committee when the Liberals delayed this bill in the last Parliament?
  23. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsAnita Neville (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats the human rights talking point and ignores the housing and UN declaration questions.It is time for first nations to have human rights.
  24. misdirected
    Security CertificatesMs. Penny Priddy (NDP) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer insults the member's understanding and suggests rephrasing instead of addressing the Criminal Code alternative.we are collectively astonished at the lack of understanding the member has just demonstrated.
  25. deflected
    Security CertificatesMs. Penny Priddy (NDP) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to Supreme Court compliance and Liberal support without addressing problems in other countries.We have followed those very carefully.
  26. answered
    Canada Elections ActMr. Scott Simms (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states the Chief Electoral Officer will use adaptation powers to protect voting rights.I am confident that, should we have an electoral event before we can correct it in another fashion, he is prepared to use his adaptation power to ensure that no Canadian loses the right to vote.
  27. deflected
    Canada Elections ActMr. Scott Simms (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains background on post office boxes and Bill C-31 instead of committing to a fix.In an effort to put through Bill C-31 , all parties in this House supported amendments to tighten up the identification--
  28. misdirected
    Lumber IndustryNavdeep Bains (Liberal) asked David Emerson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the premise by suggesting congratulations instead of addressing the Nova Scotia impact or US lawsuits.the hon. member should be congratulating the government for putting in place the softwood lumber agreement because what he is pointing to is the very protectionist group that repeatedly, for years and decades, brought actions under chapter 19 of NAFTA against the Canadian industry.
  29. misdirected
    Lumber IndustryNavdeep Bains (Liberal) asked David Emerson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the opposition's record rather than addressing the $1 billion or sovereignty concerns.The provisions in the softwood lumber agreement are far better, far more flexible and protect Canadian forest policies much better than anything that party could have ever achieved.
  30. deflected
    Human ResourcesMr. Yvon Lévesque (Bloc) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites general job growth and labour surveys without addressing the specific 47 permits or local unemployment.when we make judgments regarding temporary foreign worker permits, these judgments are made on the basis of labour market surveys.
  31. partly answered
    Employment InsuranceMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The answer expresses sympathy and lists other programs but does not commit to making the pilot project permanent.we have great sympathy for people who are caught in situations like that where there is nothing but seasonal work.
  32. partly answered
    Air TransportationMr. Mario Silva (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses mitigation efforts but does not explain inaction or privacy protections for non-US flights.Our government has been working with the U.S. to minimize the impact on air travellers.
  33. deflected
    Automobile IndustryMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked David Emerson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids the specific Korea auto deal and instead attacks NDP protectionism without addressing the deficit or promise.I guess I will repeat the question back to the hon. member of the NDP.
  34. answered
    Automobile IndustryMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked David Emerson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states that any free trade agreement will come before the House for debate and vote.when there is a free trade agreement, it will come before the House, be viewed by the House and voted on by the House.
  35. misdirected
    Canadian Wheat BoardWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the court ruling and appeal question to personally attack the questioner as a one-trick pony.I can pledge to the people of Malpeque that after the next election they will be rid of that one-trick pony.
  36. partly answered
    Guaranteed Income SupplementMs. Louise Thibault (Independent) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses seniors' issues via panels and a minister but does not commit to reviewing or increasing the guaranteed income supplement.We have also put in place a seniors' panel that will look at seniors' issues and make recommendations to the government.
  37. deflected
    Summer Career Placement ProgramMs. France Bonsant (Bloc) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to past Liberal scandals instead of explaining the Wal-Mart funding in the minister's own riding.However, I can assure all members that the one thing we will never do is allow individuals to funnel money to their friends, which is what happened under the previous government.
  38. deflected
    Border SecurityMs. Alexa McDonough (NDP) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates general border policy without addressing the specific cases of Ann Wright and Medea Benjamin or the Arar comparison.in the exercise of our sovereign rights, we have very distinct guidelines in terms of who may come into the country and who may not.