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Monday, October 22, 2007 · sitting No. 5

House resumes debate on reply to throne speech

The House spent the largest share of the sitting on resumption of debate on the Address in Reply to the Speech from the Throne. Liberal MP Rodger Cuzner said the speech was innocuous and could have been a past Liberal document after a change of 25 words. He added that the government offered no hope for students and post-secondary education.

Conservative MP Joy Smith asked Cuzner whether he supported Senate reform. Cuzner replied that the question was an attempt to throw smoke over the absence of measures for students. NDP MP Yvon Godin noted that the Liberals had left a $50-billion surplus without reforming employment insurance during 13 years in office.

In Question Period the main clashes concerned accountability in Public Works contracting, application of the Charter of the French Language to federal workplaces in Quebec and allegations of improper election financing by Conservative candidates.

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Who held the floor · 2007-10-22

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 43%, opposition 57% of the words spokenSpeech from the ThroneQuestion PeriodSpeech From The Throne▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 12:0013:0014:0015:0016:00Last speech 17:35Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 5 h 35 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
50Debate fills the day, answers stay scarceThe sitting devoted the bulk of its time to resuming debate on the address in reply, with only a small share of words given to substantive business. One amendment was defeated and several bills were introduced, while Question Period produced few direct answers.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Public Works and Government Services

Liberal MP Michael Ignatieff said references to accountability had been removed from the Public Works procurement handbook and asked when Prime Minister Stephen Harper would stop the abdication of ministerial responsibility.

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Charter of the French Language

Bloc Québécois MP Gilles Duceppe asked whether recognition of the Quebec nation required French to be the language of work in all federally regulated workplaces in the province.

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Elections Canada

Liberal MP Todd Russell asked whether Environment Minister John Baird had hired defeated Conservative candidate Aaron Hynes because of his alleged role in an election-spending scheme.

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Finance

Finance Minister Jim Flaherty said he had spoken directly to retailers and encouraged them to reflect the higher value of the Canadian dollar in their prices as soon as possible.

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Security Certificates

Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day told Conservative MP Rick Norlock that legislation incorporating the Supreme Court’s recommendations on special advocates and appeal processes would be tabled that afternoon.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. answered
    Public Works and Government ServicesMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains the division of responsibilities and claims it meets Auditor General requests.Obviously Public Works is responsible for the contracting process.
  2. deflected
    Public Works and Government ServicesMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates talking points about the Auditor General without addressing waste or the minister's role.What we are doing is making absolutely clear that the public works department is responsible for the integrity of the process of contracting.
  3. misdirected
    Public Works and Government ServicesMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner's understanding rather than addressing ministerial responsibility.what is preposterous are the statements of the deputy leader of the Liberal Party, who clearly does not understand the policy.
  4. misdirected
    Public Works and Government ServicesMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberals and lists unrelated achievements instead of addressing the deletion of accountability.We have no lessons to learn on accountability of procurement from Liberals.
  5. deflected
    Public Works and Government ServicesMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to unrelated government actions and insults the questioner's understanding.If my hon. colleague does not understand that, I am not surprised.
  6. deflected
    Charter of the French LanguageMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The answer changes the subject to the Bloc's relevance and irony instead of addressing federal jurisdiction.Since coming to power, Canada's new government has respected Quebec's areas of jurisdiction.
  7. deflected
    Charter of the French LanguageMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the Labour Code comparison and pivots to elections and official languages.That being said, the results of the latest provincial elections make it clear that Quebeckers believe in federalism and in our policy of open federalism.
  8. misdirected
    Charter of the French LanguageMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the Bloc's motives and offers an anecdote instead of addressing language rights under federal jurisdiction.The Bloc Québécois is trying to start arguments.
  9. deflected
    Charter of the French LanguageMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer discusses language of service at banks but never addresses Bill 101 applying to federal workers under the Canada Labour Code.The partners we consulted told us that in Quebec, in Quebec's regions, the language of service is French.
  10. deflected
    Government LegislationJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer reframes the split proposal as a delay tactic instead of agreeing or refusing on the merits of splitting.everybody knows that the attempt to split the bill is simply a delaying tactic.
  11. deflected
    Government LegislationJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer accuses the asker of wanting to delay the other bill rather than addressing the specific impaired driving bill motion.the leader of the NDP wants to advance one bill so that he can in fact delay the other bill.
  12. partly answered
    Access to InformationMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites the Information Commissioner's grades but does not address deliberate blocking or what is being hidden.Nine institutions got better grades from the Information Commissioner over the previous year, three moving from an F under the previous Liberal government to an A under our government.
  13. deflected
    Access to InformationMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to defending inclusion of new institutions and attacks the opposition's past positions instead of addressing transparency concerns.what the statistics show is that the number of requests have grown significantly over the past year and it is because we have now included more institutions available to access to information, such as the Wheat Board.
  14. misdirected
    Elections CanadaMr. Todd Russell (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer threatens the asker with consequences outside the chamber and avoids confirming or denying the hiring motive or scheme approval.I know the hon. member is a decent man and, being a decent man, I know he will want to make that kind of allegation outside of this chamber where he will face the consequences for doing so.
  15. deflected
    Elections CanadaMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question as repetitive and lists future opposition reactions instead of addressing the hiring of Patrick Robert.I feel like it is last week again. The questions have not changed. I thought they would for a while, but the answers are the same.
  16. deflected
    UNESCOMr. Maka Kotto (Bloc) asked Bev Oda (Conservative). loaded question.The answer praises the government's recognition of Quebec but does not address the restriction on public disagreement or the explanatory note.We have enabled Quebec to make representation at the United Nations and UNESCO because these things are important to all Canadians and we know these are things that Quebeckers take a special interest in.
  17. deflected
    UNESCOMr. Maka Kotto (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the funding cutoff but avoids addressing the UNESCO affiliation or Quebec access to UNESCO.Our government takes very seriously its obligation to use public funds responsibly.
  18. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The response attacks the prior government and Bloc instead of answering whether the minister will admit disbelief in Kyoto.Unfortunately, in the past 10 years the previous government did absolutely nothing to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
  19. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights funding to Quebec but sidesteps the question of penalizing companies due to abandoning Kyoto.This government has granted $350 million to the Government of Quebec.
  20. misdirected
    Government AppointmentsMr. Brian Murphy (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer dismisses the specific appointment query by pivoting to general claims about legality and opposition complaints.I know there are some appointments that we did not make that have upset opposition members and they like to ask questions about that
  21. misdirected
    Elections CanadaMr. Brent St. Denis (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The response attacks another party's past actions rather than addressing the reward-for-scheme allegation.The difference is there is one party in the House that dipped into the public taxpayers' money to fund its campaign activities.
  22. deflected
    Elections CanadaScott Brison (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer threatens the asker and reframes the issue as a smear instead of addressing the adviser's role.I invite the member to make the same kinds of comments outside the House.
  23. partly answered
    FinanceMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses retailer engagement but does not commit to stronger action beyond encouragement.I have spoken to many of the retailers directly in the course of the past month.
  24. deflected
    FinanceMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). rhetorical question.The response defends the no-price-control stance and cites ATM improvements but ignores the call for direct intervention.I am sure the member believes in price controls.
  25. deflected
    PrivacyGarth Turner (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the Conservative CIMS question by pivoting to Liberal software.It is not CIMS. It is ElectSYS, the Liberal Party of Canada software application.
  26. deflected
    PrivacyGarth Turner (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer continues discussing Liberal software and adds a sarcastic byelection remark instead of addressing ethics.I guess it is time for the member to go to the byelection with or without his database.
  27. deflected
    PrivacyKaren Redman (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer again quotes Liberal software details without addressing Conservative privacy or fundraising use.I would like to know from the hon. member if she uses it.
  28. deflected
    PrivacyKaren Redman (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats Liberal software references and cuts off without addressing database disconnection or consent issues.
  29. answered
    Metallurgy IndustryMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the net benefit test and lists specific commitments secured from Rio Tinto.Rio Tinto promised certain things, such as setting up its head office in Montreal and investing in real estate—$2 billion, to be exact—in the Saguenay region.
  30. answered
    Metallurgy IndustryMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.The answer rebuts the premise and details the extensive undertakings obtained, including headquarters and investments.Montreal will be the headquarters of the one of the world's largest mining companies, the largest aluminum company in the world.
  31. partly answered
    Fisheries and OceansLawrence MacAulay (Liberal) asked Loyola Hearn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the gear type by noting it follows the prior Liberal management plan but does not engage the safety or quota concerns.In fact, the management plan I am using, which allows this, is the same management plan brought in by the Liberals.
  32. partly answered
    Drugs and PharmaceuticalsMs. Judy Wasylycia-Leis (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the goal of affordability and notes transfer payments but does not address the specific report or generic drug awareness.We are working with the provinces and territories on a national pharmaceutical strategy.
  33. deflected
    Drugs and PharmaceuticalsMs. Judy Wasylycia-Leis (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the specific proposal to inform doctors about generic drug costs and instead rebuts the jab about the finance minister while mentioning unrelated transfer payments.May I say to the hon. member, one can never be too close to the finance minister .
  34. misdirected
    Fisheries and OceansLawrence MacAulay (Liberal) asked Loyola Hearn (Conservative). loaded question.The response defends the trawler by citing quotas and jobs but pivots to attacking the opposition's past policies rather than addressing the demand to halt the vessel.an area that has been devastated because of the policies of the members opposite.