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Friday, October 26, 2007 · sitting No. 9
Commons debates tackling violent crime act as afghanistan mission draws fire
The House spent the largest share of its time on government orders debating Bill C-2, the tackling violent crime act. Conservative MP Rob Moore told the House the bill would build safer communities and cited underfunding of police under the previous Liberal government. Bloc Québécois MP Thierry St-Cyr said the measure was largely a publicity exercise and noted that several earlier justice bills had already passed or were ready for Senate approval.
In question period Liberal MP Michael Ignatieff pressed the government on conflicting statements about when Afghan forces could defend their country, citing remarks by General Hillier. Conservative MP Peter Van Loan replied that the Manley panel would advise Parliament on future engagement and pointed to increased school enrolment in Afghanistan. Other exchanges saw Bloc Québécois MP Monique Guay challenge the government's environmental record and Liberal MP David McGuinty accuse Conservatives of delaying scrutiny of election spending.
Decided that day
- C-2 advanced to second reading
- C-4, C-5 and C-6 introduced
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Who held the floor · 2007-10-26
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Bloc Québécois MP Claude DeBellefeuille asked whether a proposed single-window approval process would relax rules for new nuclear plants in Alberta.
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Liberal MP Rodger Cuzner said the government had broken its promise to extend the veterans independence program to all widows of Second World War and Korean War veterans.
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Bloc Québécois MP Serge Ménard defended his private member's bill to protect journalistic sources and argued its definition of journalist could adapt to new technologies.
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- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates throne speech position and defers to Manley panel without addressing who is in charge or competence.
We look forward to receiving the report of the Manley panel, which all parliamentarians will have an opportunity to review and, as we have said many times before, it will be up to this Parliament to decide, in the end, the deployment.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer thanks Liberal for past vote and points to Manley panel instead of addressing leadership or bungling claims.
We thank him for his support for the current mission and we know that he will want to have the opportunity to consider the report of the Manley commission on the future of the Afghan mission.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to panel recommendations and school enrollment stats without resolving who speaks for Canada.
The Afghan people have seen tangible improvements in daily life thanks to our assistance.
- misdirectedAfghanistanScott Brison (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks varying Liberal opinions rather than clarifying timeline discrepancy.
In fact, over on that side of the House there must be at least half a dozen different opinions just in the head of the Liberal leader.
- deflectedAfghanistanScott Brison (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer highlights Manley commission instead of addressing trust in PM versus General Hillier.
We have appointed a commission, headed up by a former Liberal deputy prime minister, the Hon. John Manley, who is a very distinguished gentleman on a very distinguished panel, to provide advice to all members of the House of Commons on the best way to approach the deployment.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Monique Guay (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer blames prior 13 years of inaction instead of addressing Arctic investment versus emissions plan.
For 13 long years, this problem grew much worse.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Monique Guay (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats blame on previous government and restates 20% reduction target without engaging Kyoto or timeline critique.
That is why we have a real plan to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 20% over the next 13 years.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Marcel Lussier (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer claims first real action and criticizes Liberal tax breaks instead of addressing oil sands expansion vision.
The only thing the Liberal Party did was provide big fat tax breaks for one particular industry.
- answeredThe EnvironmentMr. Marcel Lussier (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly confirms action on both requested targets and carbon exchange.
we are in fact doing both of those.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to past NDP votes and Alberta comparisons instead of addressing ongoing subsidies or the mini budget.
at the outset, let me congratulate the leader of the NDP on his clear enunciation of this important issue.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentJack Layton (NDP) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses only the ZENN certification status and ignores the broader subsidy and electric-car policy critique.
ZENN has not yet provided the information requested by Transport Canada to assess the eligibility for the certification process.
- misdirectedElections CanadaMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer immediately attacks the Liberal Party instead of responding to the in-and-out spending questions.
this party and this government are really clean. What is different is the Liberal Party.
- misdirectedElections CanadaMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to Liberal corporate sponsorships and avoids any explanation of Conservative election spending.
I did not hear any explanation from my friend about those corporate sponsorships.
- misdirectedElections CanadaMs. Yasmin Ratansi (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer accuses Liberals of illegal practices rather than addressing repayment of alleged rebate funds.
The fact is this party has not changed. The Liberal Party has not changed.
- misdirectedElections CanadaMs. Yasmin Ratansi (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer again attacks Liberal events and motives instead of committing to repay any disputed funds.
I do not know if the hon. member is going to be at the corporate sponsored Liberal spooktacular tonight
- deflectedNuclear EnergyMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states the minister is new and will consult but provides no position on regulatory changes or single-window approvals.
I am new to this portfolio. I am just becoming aware of the issues with regard to this.
- partly answeredNuclear EnergyMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer denies any plan to weaken rules and notes work with provinces but sidesteps the core concern over unsolved nuclear waste.
Whether it is in Alberta or in Ontario, this government has absolutely no intention whatsoever to water down any environmental or any nuclear safety regulation.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Guy André (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights action on raw sewage but never addresses whether the government will support the Bloc bill on phosphates.
In September, we made a major announcement to the effect that this government will be the first one in Canadian history to act.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Guy André (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer calls for a broader strategy and notes phosphates are only 1% of the problem but avoids committing to amend the law as asked.
We believe that a more holistic approach is required.
- misdirectedElections CanadaMr. Brian Murphy (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the Elections Canada compliance question and instead attacks Liberal fundraising events.
I do not hear anybody from the Liberal Party answering the question on its "Spooktacular Carnival" with the corporate sponsorships
- misdirectedElections CanadaMr. Brian Murphy (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer again pivots to Liberal sponsorship scandal attacks rather than addressing the in-and-out scheme or lawsuit.
That is the party that took over $40 million of taxpayers money in the sponsorship scandal and never gave it back.
- misdirectedElections CanadaMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims legality but shifts to criticizing Liberals for not forcing an election instead of addressing the candidates' statements.
If there was any hint of a scandal, if the Liberals believed anything that they are saying, on Wednesday they would have voted to have an election.
- misdirectedElections CanadaMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats that activities are legal but again attacks Liberals for not calling an election rather than engaging the legal-compliance question.
Clearly, they do not believe their own allegations on this, and the reason they do not believe it is because this party is clean.
- partly answeredAfghanistanMs. Dawn Black (NDP) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the timeline and panel review but does not clarify whether Hillier informed the minister or PM of his statements.
It was passed in the throne speech which was endorsed by the Liberals.
- deflectedAfghanistanMs. Dawn Black (NDP) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner's rhetoric rather than addressing the query on civilian control.
the only thing fuming in here is the rhetoric and exaggeration from the NDP.
- partly answeredRoyal Canadian Mounted PoliceHedy Fry (Liberal) asked Mr. Dave MacKenzie (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states procedures exist but avoids further comment due to an ongoing investigation.
Because there is an ongoing investigation, it would be inappropriate for me to comment further.
- deflectedRoyal Canadian Mounted PoliceHedy Fry (Liberal) asked Mr. Dave MacKenzie (Conservative). substantive question.The answer refers back to prior statements and defers to an ongoing review without new assurances.
This matter is under review. It would be inappropriate for me to comment further on a particular incident.
- misdirectedVeterans AffairsMr. Rodger Cuzner (Liberal) asked Greg Thompson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the previous Liberal government's record instead of addressing the broken promise claim.
The previous government had 13 years to do it and it did not get the job done.
- misdirectedVeterans AffairsMr. Rodger Cuzner (Liberal) asked Greg Thompson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer accuses the asker of playing politics and cites Liberal cuts rather than addressing the specific promise.
Sadly, he is obviously playing politics with this issue.
- partly answeredAfghanistanMs. Johanne Deschamps (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains the parliamentary process but does not reconcile the conflicting statements on the mission end date.
We are waiting for the panel's report, and I hope that all members of the House will contribute to this debate.
- deflectedAfghanistanMs. Johanne Deschamps (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.The answer praises the panel without addressing the accusation of smoke and mirrors or the timeline discrepancy.
This is an independent group that will report to Parliament.
- misdirectedAutomobile IndustryMr. Lloyd St. Amand (Liberal) asked Mr. Brian Pallister (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberal Party's past record instead of addressing the South Korea trade deal concerns.
it is ironic that the member would speak about doing things for the auto sector given the fact that during the 13 years that the Liberal Party was in power it failed to negotiate.
- answeredPost-Secondary EducationMr. Alex Atamanenko (NDP) asked Mrs. Lynne Yelich (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the call for government support by detailing existing student funding programs.
The government offers $5 billion annually in direct support to students, including the Canada student loans program which provides loans or grants to students based on assisted financial payments.
- misdirectedPost-Secondary EducationMr. Alex Atamanenko (NDP) asked Mrs. Lynne Yelich (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to criticizing prior governments instead of addressing the current investment request.
We have provided more for students and those people did not get it done.
- deflectedCanadian Radio-television and Telecommunications CommissionMr. Massimo Pacetti (Liberal) asked Jim Abbott (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the specific policy question by noting CRTC independence without addressing the review request.
we all know that the CRTC is a body that is independent of the House but our government continues to monitor these things very closely.
- answeredAboriginal AffairsGerry Byrne (Liberal) asked Mr. Rod Bruinooge (Conservative). substantive question.The answer confirms ongoing negotiations under the referenced framework and projects near-term resolution.
We continue these negotiations and we are hopeful that there will be resolution in the short term.
- misdirectedAgriculture and Agri-FoodMr. Luc Malo (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to partisan attacks on opposition parties rather than detailing the long-term plan.
Say what you like, but we know that with the Liberals nothing would have happened, with the Bloc nothing could happen, and with us there is leadership.