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Monday, October 21, 2024 · sitting No. 355

House deadlocked over document production as privilege debate consumes sitting

The House spent the largest share of its time on a privilege motion concerning the government's refusal to produce documents ordered by the House, leaving Parliament unable to proceed with other business. Conservative MP Pat Kelly said the refusal had created the current paralysis and that the Conservatives would not allow debate to collapse. Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux countered by attacking the Conservative leader's refusal to obtain a security clearance.

Later the House held an emergency debate on RCMP allegations of foreign interference by the Government of India. Liberal MP George Chahal described the RCMP findings as unprecedented and said the government was taking the matter seriously. Bloc Québécois MP Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe pressed the government on its four-year delay in creating a foreign-agent registry after an earlier House motion.

In Question Period, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre asked the Prime Minister to call an election over housing costs and a $400-million scandal. Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland defended the government's economic record and accused Conservatives of opposing programs that help families.

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Who held the floor · 2024-10-21

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 30%, opposition 70% of the words spokenOrders of the DayOrders of the DayEmergency Debate▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 11:0513:0014:0015:0016:0017:0018:0019:0020:0021:00Last speech 23:20Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 12 h 15 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
22Privilege points crowd out sparse businessThe sitting was dominated by extended debate on privilege and allegations of Indian government interference, with 196 points raised and minimal time on other topics. Only one bill was introduced, no votes occurred, and Question Period produced few direct answers.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Pharmacare

Liberal MP Joanne Thompson said every Conservative member voted against the Pharmacare Act at every stage despite its benefits for nine million women and gender-diverse Canadians.

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Public Safety

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh asked whether the Prime Minister had directly urged the Conservative leader to obtain a security clearance after RCMP allegations involving Indian agents.

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Carbon Pricing

Conservative MP John Barlow said the Parliamentary Budget Officer had confirmed that quadrupling the carbon tax would cost Alberta families $2,000 a year.

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Housing

Conservative MP Dominique Vien said the median price of a single-family home in Quebec had risen 74 per cent in five years to $450,000.

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Flight Attendants' Remuneration Act

NDP MP Bonita Zarrillo introduced a bill to end unpaid work for flight attendants, noting that successive Liberal and Conservative governments had allowed the practice to continue.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    The EconomyPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer ignores the election question and pivots to inflation success.However, the Conservatives do not want to talk about Canadian success stories.
  2. misdirected
    The EconomyPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks the opposition leader instead of addressing the election call.The House does not have confidence in the Leader of the Opposition.
  3. misdirected
    The EconomyPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks Conservatives' voting record rather than responding to the election question.How can the Conservatives look themselves in the face when they oppose feeding Canadian kids?
  4. misdirected
    The EconomyPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer defends a program with anecdote and accuses Conservatives of opposing feeding kids.The Conservatives are against feeding kids.
  5. deflected
    The EconomyPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer claims to have knocked asker off game then pivots to inflation data.we have clearly knocked the Leader of the Opposition off his game this afternoon.
  6. deflected
    SeniorsMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked Steven MacKinnon (Liberal). loaded question.Answer lists past Liberal actions on seniors instead of addressing the bill deadline or leadership question.we were able to lower the retirement age to 65, increase the GIS and help hundreds of thousands of Quebeckers by providing dental care for seniors.
  7. deflected
    International TradeMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). loaded question.Answer recounts Liberal history on supply management instead of addressing the senators blocking the bill.during negotiations with President Trump, it was a Liberal government that defended the interests of farmers by defending supply management at all costs
  8. answered
    Public SafetyMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.Answer directly addresses the call for security clearance and foreign interference concerns.We think all party leaders in this House should have the required security clearance so that they can receive information concerning the threats to this House or threats to Canada involving foreign interference.
  9. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The answer endorses general security clearance views and India's interference condemnation but avoids whether the PM urged the Conservative leader specifically.the Prime Minister has been clear. We fundamentally believe that all party leaders in the House should have the appropriate security clearance so that they can find out the information they need to manage their parliamentary caucus and understand the threats facing Canadians.
  10. deflected
    TaxationMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Pascale St-Onge (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks Conservatives as being in the pocket of tech giants instead of addressing when the finance minister will admit the taxes are not worth the cost.I am not terribly surprised to see that they are still in the pocket of the U.S. tech giants.
  11. misdirected
    TaxationMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to attacking Conservatives on climate denial and listing projects rather than addressing the finance minister admitting failure on taxes.The Conservatives, who continue to deny the existence of climate change, have a plan that leads backwards, not forwards.
  12. deflected
    Carbon PricingMr. John Barlow (Conservative) asked Jenna Sudds (Liberal). loaded question.The answer promotes the Canada child benefit instead of addressing whether the government will admit the carbon tax is a scam or call an election.Families with children under the age of six can receive almost $7,800 each and every year per child.
  13. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMr. John Barlow (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the idea of cutting cheques and slogans rather than addressing the PBO confirmation or calling a carbon tax election.What is going to get it done in a time of global uncertainty is collaboration and working together, not nonsense slogans.
  14. misdirected
    HousingMrs. Dominique Vien (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks the Conservative leader's past housing record instead of stating what the government intends to do for Quebec homebuyers.When the leader of the Conservative Party was the federal minister responsible for housing, he only built six homes across the country.
  15. misdirected
    HousingMrs. Dominique Vien (Conservative) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). substantive question.The answer mocks the Conservative leader's housing record and invites him on a search rather than outlining new actions for housing affordability.We travelled all over the Quebec region, including my colleague's riding, to look for the six affordable housing units that the Conservative leader built across the country during his entire tenure, and we have yet to find them.
  16. answered
    JusticeMr. Martin Champoux (Bloc) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly states that education is a provincial responsibility and the federal government is not involved with Bill 21.We are not responsible for education.
  17. misdirected
    JusticeMr. Martin Champoux (Bloc) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks the asker personally instead of addressing the question on secularism and the Criminal Code.If he really has a desire to get mixed up in Quebec's jurisdictions, maybe he should run for a seat in the Quebec National Assembly during its next election.
  18. deflected
    JusticeMr. Martin Champoux (Bloc) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). substantive question.Answer claims difficulty responding due to jurisdiction without engaging the multiculturalism question.despite all my efforts, I find it difficult to answer a question about the Quebec government's areas of jurisdiction.
  19. misdirected
    Carbon PricingAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). loaded question.Answer ignores the carbon tax and food prices to attack Conservatives and their allies instead.Danielle Smith believes planes are spraying chemtrails.
  20. partly answered
    Carbon PricingAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). substantive question.Answer addresses the PBO claim on rebates but cuts off without fully rebutting the net cost figures.the Parliamentary Budget Officer and 300 economists across this country have said that eight out of 10 Canadian families get more money back
  21. deflected
    Carbon PricingMr. Dan Mazier (Conservative) asked Jenna Sudds (Liberal). loaded question.Answer changes subject to a school food program announcement instead of addressing the carbon tax on Manitobans.That is what we do on this side of the House to ensure that families are supported.
  22. answered
    LabourMs. Bonita Zarrillo (NDP) asked Steven MacKinnon (Liberal). substantive question.Answer directly explains the government's position on private sector collective bargaining for flight attendants.Flight attendants have a collective agreement that sets out their hours and their wages, and it is not my place to comment on it.
  23. deflected
    HousingMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Soraya Martinez Ferrada (Liberal). substantive question.Answer pivots to criticizing Conservatives rather than detailing new Liberal actions on housing deaths.Unlike the Conservatives, who ignore human dignity in order to exploit human misery, on this side of the House, we are going to work with every municipality
  24. misdirected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMs. Leslyn Lewis (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks the question as disinformation and filibustering instead of addressing the green slush fund conflicts.it is disappointing that after nine years, it is the same slogan, the same type of disinformation, the same type of false accusation.
  25. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMs. Leslyn Lewis (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks Conservative obstruction instead of addressing the demand to release documents.the Conservatives are filibustering their own motion because they do not want to respect the Speaker's ruling, which asks for this unprecedented motion to go to committee.
  26. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. John Brassard (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to accusing Conservatives of obstruction rather than confirming document release.The Conservatives are obstructing their own obstruction because they do not want the truth to come out, which is that they are trying to abuse the extraordinary privileges they have in order to override the rights of Canadians.
  27. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. John Brassard (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer criticizes Conservatives for omitting facts and attacks their motives instead of committing to unredacted release.it is typical for the Conservatives to omit the facts that are inconvenient to them.
  28. answered
    Public SafetyMr. Rhéal Éloi Fortin (Bloc) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly states actions taken on gangs and border enforcement in response to the query.We have added more RCMP members.
  29. partly answered
    Public SafetyMr. Rhéal Éloi Fortin (Bloc) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The answer affirms understanding and ongoing work with partners but does not address the scale or urgency of the gang war.I am very heartened by the RCMP's work with its partners in Quebec, including the Sûreté du Québec, the Montreal police and the Quebec City police.
  30. misdirected
    FinanceMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the Conservatives for personal criticism instead of addressing the request for Carney to testify.Instead of respecting people and their differences of opinions, the Conservatives go after them personally.
  31. misdirected
    FinanceMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to questioning the Conservative leader's security clearance rather than responding to the testimony request.
  32. misdirected
    Financial InstitutionsMr. Ryan Williams (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the credit card fee question and pivots to the security clearance attack on the opposition leader.the question on Canadians' minds this week is why the Leader of the Opposition will not get his security clearance.
  33. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). loaded question.The answer restates provincial responsibility for bail without addressing the bill, police associations, or the posed choice.If the situations are not clear, then they will indeed have to, as I have said in three words, talk to Legault.
  34. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). loaded question.The answer lists government investments and changes but avoids addressing Bill C-5 or the groups cited.We have also made it so that bail is not so readily available to people who repeatedly commit serious violent crimes.
  35. partly answered
    Forestry IndustryMr. Richard Martel (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). substantive question.The answer notes collaboration with stakeholders and Quebec but does not address the sawmill closure, softwood lumber, or job losses.We are also working with the Quebec government to find long-term solutions for sustainable forestry in Quebec.
  36. misdirected
    TelecommunicationsMr. Brian Masse (NDP) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks opposition parties and pivots to past actions instead of addressing Rogers' price hike or subsidies.a lot of members here should take lessons from the NDP about standing up for what is right.
  37. answered
    Foreign AffairsMr. Mike Morrice (Green) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the call for ceasefire, hostages, and humanitarian aid in line with the question.We need a ceasefire that is supported by the UN Security Council, including the U.S.