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Thursday, October 10, 2024 · sitting No. 353

Privilege debate over SDTC documents consumes most of Commons day

The House spent the bulk of its time on a privilege motion arising from the government's refusal to produce unredacted documents on Sustainable Development Technology Canada. Conservative MP Laila Goodridge said the government had turned the agency into a slush fund and was obstructing justice by withholding records ordered by the Speaker. Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux said the matter belonged at the procedure and House affairs committee and accused Conservatives of filibustering.

Question period featured repeated exchanges on carbon pricing. Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer cited a Parliamentary Budget Officer report showing net household costs once indirect effects are included, while Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault quoted passages stating most households receive more in rebates than they pay in direct charges.

Decided that day

  • S-205 received royal assent
  • C-291 received royal assent
  • C-64 received royal assent and advanced in the second chamber
  • S-289, C-77 and C-414 introduced

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Who held the floor · 2024-10-10

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 23%, opposition 77% of the words spokenOrders of the DayQuestion PeriodOrders of the Day▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:30Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 25 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
52Privilege Spat Eats Up Legislative TimeThe sitting was dominated by 221 minutes on privilege and 286 points of order or privilege, leaving only 20 percent of words on substantive business. A few bills received royal assent or were introduced while Question Period produced mostly deflected or misdirected answers and no votes were recorded.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Carbon Pricing

Conservative MP John Barlow said families in Prince Edward Island would pay nearly $1,200 a year after the tax quadruples, and he asked the Prime Minister to call an election on the issue.

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Foreign Affairs

Conservative MP Shuvaloy Majumdar pressed the government to list the Houthis as a terrorist group, noting the United States had done so in January, while Public Safety Minister Jennifer O'Connell said national security agencies were conducting an expedited review.

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International Trade

Bloc Québécois MP Claude DeBellefeuille accused two Liberal senators of blocking Bill C-282 and subverting the will of the elected House, while Agriculture Minister Lawrence MacAulay urged the Senate to pass the measure.

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Grocery Industry

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said 94 per cent of Canadians are worried about food costs and accused both opposition and government parties of failing to restrain grocery chains, while Industry Minister François-Philippe Champagne pointed to new competition reforms and a grocery code of conduct.

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Petitions

Conservative MP Garnett Genuis raised a point of order objecting to a member displaying a prop during petitions, stating the rules must apply equally to all members.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. misdirected
    Foreign AffairsAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses Samidoun instead of the Houthis question.With respect to Samidoun, we heard the Minister of Public Safety reference this yesterday.
  2. deflected
    Carbon PricingAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). substantive question.The answer quotes the PBO on direct costs but ignores the election call and attacks the opposition.The Leader of the Opposition should apologize to Canadians for misleading them all these months.
  3. deflected
    Carbon PricingAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). substantive question.The answer quotes another PBO paragraph but pivots to attacking the opposition on rich CEOs instead of the election.The Leader of the Opposition wants to take money away from the middle class and poorer Canadians to protect his rich CEO friends.
  4. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMr. John Barlow (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). substantive question.The answer shifts entirely to climate impacts on farmers rather than the carbon tax costs or election.The member and his party never talk about the impacts of climate change on farmers and on the price of food in Canada.
  5. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMr. John Barlow (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses indirect costs and farmer support instead of the PBO report or election call.Dairy farmers, the Egg Farmers of Canada, grain growers and the Canola Council all support our plan to fight climate change.
  6. partly answered
    International TradeMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Lawrence MacAulay (Liberal). substantive question.The answer affirms support for supply management and urges Senate passage but does not address calling senators to order.I urge the Senate to pass Bill C-282
  7. deflected
    Grocery IndustryMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). substantive question.The answer highlights Liberal reforms and a code of conduct but does not explain why Liberals voted against the NDP plan.Now we will have less concentration and more choice, and we will stabilize prices in Canada.
  8. misdirected
    Grocery IndustryMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer attacks the NDP leader and shifts to Liberal achievements instead of addressing credit card reliance for groceries.I think that the leader of the NDP should apologize.
  9. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMr. Jasraj Singh Hallan (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer dismisses the question by mocking the asker's economic credibility rather than engaging the PBO report on carbon tax costs.I think everyone in this House and Canadians watching should take everything the finance critic says about the economy with a big grain of salt.
  10. deflected
    Carbon PricingMr. Jasraj Singh Hallan (Conservative) asked Jenna Sudds (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer pivots to defending Liberal programs without addressing the PBO findings or the call for an election.There is more work to be done, which is exactly why, on this side of the House, we continue to fight for Canadians
  11. partly answered
    Carbon PricingMs. Lianne Rood (Conservative) asked Ms. Rachel Bendayan (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer directly counters the claim about net costs using the PBO report but ignores the election call.eight out of 10 Canadian families get more in the carbon rebate than they pay in the price on pollution.
  12. deflected
    Carbon PricingMs. Lianne Rood (Conservative) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer restates a general economic claim without engaging the specific PBO table or election demand.The rich pay more and middle-class Canadians pay less.
  13. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer defends document handling and attacks Conservatives but avoids the core allegation of obstructing the RCMP.The government has already handed over thousands of pages of documents in response to this motion.
  14. misdirected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). loaded question.The answer accuses Conservatives of turning Canada into a banana republic instead of explaining refusal to provide documents.It is because we are not a banana republic.
  15. answered
    International TradeMr. Yves Perron (Bloc) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly affirms support for supply management and urges senators to act on the bill.We support the supply management system.
  16. answered
    International TradeMr. Yves Perron (Bloc) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the request by stating support and urging senators to act on the bill.We urge senators to move swiftly and to respect and recognize the fact that a vast majority of the House wants this bill to move forward.
  17. deflected
    International TradeMr. Yves Perron (Bloc) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids committing to action by emphasizing senator independence instead of addressing the call to intervene.We urge senators to move swiftly, but they are independent senators.
  18. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMr. Jamil Jivani (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the PBO cost question and instead attacks the Conservatives' climate plan.The Conservative Party of Canada has no plan to fight climate change.
  19. deflected
    Carbon PricingMr. Jamil Jivani (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). substantive question.The answer shifts to criticizing Conservative cuts rather than reviewing the PBO table or addressing the election call.The Conservatives refuse to talk about the Canada child benefit, which puts thousands of dollars in the pockets of Canadian families every single year.
  20. misdirected
    The EconomyMr. Philip Lawrence (Conservative) asked Jenna Sudds (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to defending the child benefit and attacking Conservative policy instead of addressing income inequality or the election demand.The Conservatives have made their position very clear.
  21. partly answered
    HealthMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges NDP contributions and highlights dental plan results but does not address the shortage of family doctors.Some 800,000 Quebec seniors now have a Canadian dental care plan card, and 250,000 have been able to access affordable dental care
  22. answered
    Indigenous AffairsMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Patty Hajdu (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly responds by discussing recent meetings, legislation, and ongoing partnership work on water issues.I just met with the chief from Tataskweyak a few hours ago.
  23. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Ryan Williams (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the document production demand by reframing around police independence instead of addressing Parliament's authority.What is at issue here is the fact that the House has decided that it should be the judge and jury and the police should investigate something.
  24. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Ryan Williams (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to police warrants and due process instead of addressing Parliament's request for documents.It is not up to parliamentarians and politicians to direct police because they have a political vendetta.
  25. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Rick Perkins (Conservative) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). loaded question.The answer quotes the RCMP to avoid the demand to hand over documents and instead criticizes the opposition.There is significant risk that the Motion could be interpreted as a circumvention of normal investigative processes and Charter protections.
  26. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Rick Perkins (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer claims documents were handed over and accuses interference rather than addressing unredacted documents.What is of concern is that they are interfering in an investigation and they are interfering in police independence
  27. misdirected
    SeniorsMs. Andréanne Larouche (Bloc) asked Steven MacKinnon (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks the Bloc's past position on retirement age instead of addressing OAS increases for 65-74.it is very interesting to hear my colleague talk about people 65 to 74 when we know that she and her political party, the Bloc Québécois, teamed up with the Conservatives to oppose lowering the age of retirement from 67 to 65.
  28. misdirected
    SeniorsMs. Andréanne Larouche (Bloc) asked Steven MacKinnon (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the Bloc on dental care instead of addressing the OAS increase deadline.we would attach a little more credibility to what the separatist party opposite is saying if it had not acted openly and aggressively to oppose hundreds and hundreds of dollars in dental care for every senior in need
  29. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.The answer warns about Conservatives directing police instead of addressing the House order to hand over documents.The RCMP has been clear. There is a significant risk that the motion will be interpreted as circumventing normal investigative processes and Charter protections.
  30. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). substantive question.The answer accuses Conservatives of wanting to run the police and cites SDTC funding stats instead of addressing document transparency.The Conservatives now want to run the police in Canada.
  31. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Richard Lehoux (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.The answer claims documents were handed over and accuses Conservatives of undermining democracy instead of addressing the demand.We have already handed the documents over to the police.
  32. deflected
    Democratic InstitutionsMr. Michael Cooper (Conservative) asked Ms. Jennifer O'Connell (Liberal). loaded question.Answer ignores the 54-day warrant delay and pivots to attacking Conservatives on foreign interference.It was the Conservative leader , when he was the minister of democratic institutions, who said that he was not going to take foreign interference seriously because it was not in his political interest to do so.
  33. deflected
    Democratic InstitutionsMr. Michael Cooper (Conservative) asked Ms. Jennifer O'Connell (Liberal). loaded question.Answer avoids the Attorney General's view on partisan delay and instead accuses Conservatives of cherry-picking.We will take the issues of foreign interference, no matter where they are coming from, incredibly seriously, and we do not cherry-pick like the Conservatives do.
  34. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsMr. Shuvaloy Majumdar (Conservative) asked Ms. Jennifer O'Connell (Liberal). rhetorical question.Answer addresses the listing process but deflects the 10-month delay criticism by blaming Conservatives for games.These national security organizations in Canada are constantly reviewing the terrorist listing, and the Minister of Public Safety has ensured that it is put forward for urgent review.
  35. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMs. Heather McPherson (NDP) asked Ms. Pam Damoff (Liberal). rhetorical question.Answer restates government positions on Israel and hostages without addressing calls to sanction Netanyahu or recognize Palestine.The loss of innocent lives is something we have not heard Conservatives talk about in the House, and I appreciate the NDP bringing it forward.
  36. partly answered
    HealthMr. Mike Morrice (Green) asked Patty Hajdu (Liberal). substantive question.Answer acknowledges working with First Nations but does not commit to a meeting or expediting the health centre.I will always commit to working with first nations leaders on their infrastructure priorities.
  37. deflected
    Business of the HouseMr. Eric Duncan (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.Answer sidesteps the contempt ruling and document access by accusing Conservatives of procedural games.I am sorry to say that all we saw this week was more Conservative procedural games.