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Tuesday, October 8, 2024 · sitting No. 351

Liberals resist speaker order on SDTC documents as privilege debate fills house

The house spent the largest share of its sitting on a privilege motion concerning government refusal to hand over unredacted documents related to Sustainable Development Technology Canada funding decisions. Conservative MPs argued the government was defying a house order and the speaker's ruling, while Liberal MPs said the matter should move to the procedure and house affairs committee as the speaker recommended.

Bloc Québécois MP Nathalie Sinclair-Desgagné said Parliament's duty required obtaining the documents before any committee referral. Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux said continued debate only aided Conservative obstruction of other business.

Question period featured repeated exchanges on the same documents, with Conservative MP Melissa Lantsman pressing for their release and Liberal house leader Karina Gould insisting the speaker's recommended path to committee was the correct next step.

Decided that day

  • 11th report of the Standing Committee on Transport, Infrastructure and Communities passed
  • Bill S-250 advanced in first chamber
  • Bill C-291 advanced in second chamber

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

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Who held the floor · 2024-10-08

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 29%, opposition 71% of the words spokenRoutine proceedingsQuestion PeriodOrders Of The Day▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:40Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 35 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
38Privilege fights crowd out modest bill movesThe sitting devoted most time to privilege and committee matters while Question Period produced almost no direct answers. Only two bills advanced a stage and one committee report passed amid 120 points of order or privilege.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Committees of the House

Bloc Québécois MP Xavier Barsalou-Duval pressed for concurrence in a 2023 transport committee report on commercial shipping and shoreline erosion, saying the government had done nothing in 18 months.

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Public Safety

Conservative MP Pierre Paul-Hus said Bill C-75 had removed consequences for firearms offences, citing Montreal police officers who reported suspects no longer feared arrest.

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International Trade

Bloc Québécois MP Alain Therrien said two unelected senators were delaying Bill C-282, which protects supply management, despite unanimous support in the elected house.

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Seniors

Bloc Québécois MP Andréanne Larouche said 79 per cent of Canadians supported raising OAS for those aged 65 to 74 and called on the government to grant royal recommendation to Bill C-319.

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Emergency Preparedness

Conservative MP Gerald Soroka said environment minister Steven Guilbeault's officials cancelled prescribed burns for political reasons and later turned away Alberta firefighters.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. misdirected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). loaded question.Answer shifts entirely to Vancouver protests instead of the documents requested.We unequivocally condemn those events and those actions.
  2. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.Restates Speaker ruling and pivots to blaming Conservatives for not sending to committee.We are ready to send this matter to a committee.
  3. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.Attacks Conservatives for obstruction rather than addressing the documents or cover-up claim.The only party that does not want that to happen is the Conservative Party.
  4. misdirected
    Public SafetyMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). loaded question.Blames provincial government and judges instead of addressing federal bail or crime policy.That would be a good question to ask Premier Legault.
  5. misdirected
    Public SafetyMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). loaded question.Again deflects responsibility to Quebec judges and premier rather than federal legislation.the people who grant bail are the judges appointed by Mr. Legault
  6. answered
    International TradeMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). substantive question.Directly agrees on supply management and states expectation for Senate action on the bill.we expect the Senate to work diligently on this issue
  7. deflected
    International TradeMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). loaded question.Defends Senate independence without addressing the delay or intervening with senators.we have appointed senators who are independent.
  8. deflected
    HousingMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.Pivots to general housing investments instead of explaining the blocked motion on AI rent collusion.It is not enough to just identify problems.
  9. deflected
    HousingMs. Bonita Zarrillo (NDP) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.Question assumes unproven collusion with Conservatives to protect landlords; answer ignores the question and pivots to NDP criticism and government spending.If the New Democrats want to turn their minds to solutions, I will listen. Until then, I am going to continue acting.
  10. misdirected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.Question accuses government of contempt and cover-up; answer attacks Conservatives for obstruction instead of addressing the order or documents.The only party that is holding Parliament up are the Conservatives, because they do not want the truth out there.
  11. misdirected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.Question demands documents and accuses obstruction of justice; answer shifts to criticizing Conservatives for abusing powers rather than committing to handover.There is only one group of MPs that does not want that to happen, because what will come out is that the Conservatives are trying to abuse the extraordinary powers of this place
  12. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.Question asks for immediate document turnover to RCMP; answer repeats call for committee referral and attacks Conservative motives without addressing production.There is only one group of MPs that is afraid of that going to committee.
  13. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.Question presses for documents and accuses hiding corruption; answer mocks Conservatives as blockers and cites reports without committing to handover.The Conservatives are blocking their own motion, if we can imagine that.
  14. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). substantive question.Question asks for quick action on the scandal; answer claims prior reports and action but attacks Conservatives instead of outlining new steps.the Conservatives are waking up, as though this were news.
  15. misdirected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). loaded question.Question demands documents for RCMP; answer quotes RCMP independence to avoid addressing production of documents.I would like to emphasize...that the RCMP is operationally independent and strictly adheres to the principle of police independence.
  16. misdirected
    SeniorsMs. Andréanne Larouche (Bloc) asked Steven MacKinnon (Liberal). substantive question.Question asks when Liberals will support OAS increase via royal recommendation; answer attacks Bloc record on other senior supports instead of addressing the bill.the Bloc Québécois has never taken a single opportunity to support our seniors.
  17. misdirected
    SeniorsMs. Andréanne Larouche (Bloc) asked Steven MacKinnon (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the Bloc's voting record instead of addressing the request for a royal recommendation on the bill.The Bloc members voted against dental care.
  18. misdirected
    SeniorsMs. Andréanne Larouche (Bloc) asked Steven MacKinnon (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to criticizing the Bloc's alliance with Conservatives rather than responding to the call for a royal recommendation.These seniors, certainly seniors in Gatineau, are wondering what the Bloc Québécois is doing with the Conservative Party in favour of austerity
  19. partly answered
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Rick Perkins (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer addresses the Speaker's ruling on committee referral but uses sarcasm and avoids the core demand to turn over documents.If the members opposite would like to read the full ruling, they can go do that, or I can table it in the House for them to read.
  20. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Rick Perkins (Conservative) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to legal principles and insults the Conservatives instead of addressing the House order or documents request.every time I meet a Conservative, I have to search for some semblance of reason.
  21. misdirected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Larry Brock (Conservative) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner personally and invokes authoritarianism rather than addressing the scandal or documents.Instead of emulating authoritarianism, how about the member joins this side and learns how to fight against it?
  22. partly answered
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Larry Brock (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer directly references the ruling and committee process but frames it as expert opposition to the request.your ruling was clear to send this matter to committee for further study.
  23. deflected
    Indigenous AffairsMs. Lori Idlout (NDP) asked Anita Anand (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges concerns but shifts to general connectivity and collaboration without addressing the specific contamination issue.It is crucial that remote northern and indigenous communities have access to the safe and reliable connectivity that they need.
  24. partly answered
    Indigenous AffairsMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Patty Hajdu (Liberal). loaded question.The answer addresses progress on boil water advisories and references legislation but does not directly respond to stopping court fights.since 2015, we have lifted 145 long-term boiled water advisories together with first nations.
  25. deflected
    EthicsTim Uppal (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer repeats a general committee expectation without addressing the specific allegations of misleading or corruption.if a witness goes to committee, we expect that they provide the information that the committee asks of them.
  26. deflected
    EthicsTim Uppal (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer again repeats the same general statement and avoids the specific evidence or call for the minister to admit wrongdoing.if a witness goes to committee and the committee asks them for information, we believe that the witness should provide the information as requested of them
  27. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Michael Kram (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the question entirely and instead lectures Conservatives on humility and election assumptions.What we see from Conservative members of Parliament is that they think they have already won the next election, but that is not how elections work.
  28. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Bernard Généreux (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.The answer changes the subject to criticize Conservatives and defends rights rather than addressing obstruction or the order violation.Why are the Conservatives still going on about an organization that has ceased operations?
  29. partly answered
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMr. Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe (Bloc) asked Marc Miller (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges shared responsibility and willingness to collaborate with provinces, partially addressing the call for federal action.We must do our work in collaboration with the provinces that are on side for welcoming asylum seekers.
  30. deflected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMr. Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe (Bloc) asked Marc Miller (Liberal). substantive question.The answer shifts blame to the member for missing prior actions and downplays asylum seekers' role without outlining new federal steps.Although the member opposite wants to blame asylum seekers, they are not the reason why there is a shortage of teachers in Quebec.
  31. deflected
    Emergency PreparednessMr. Gerald Soroka (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer disputes the premise about prescribed burns and redirects to past investment levels and Alberta's role instead of apologizing.To try to insinuate that because they did not want to do prescribed burns we did nothing is simply false.
  32. misdirected
    Emergency PreparednessMr. Blaine Calkins (Conservative) asked Randy Boissonnault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer refers the question to another minister and focuses on ongoing work with the mayor rather than addressing incompetence or negligence.my hon. colleague has heard from the minister for Parks Canada
  33. deflected
    Emergency PreparednessMr. Blaine Calkins (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). substantive question.The answer claims the system was installed but refuses to provide the specific numbers requested.I would be happy to show him where it is in the city.
  34. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Marty Morantz (Conservative) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). substantive question.The answer condemns anti-Semitism but avoids addressing whether Samidoun will be listed.That is why we will always condemn any form of anti-Semitism.
  35. partly answered
    Public SafetyMr. Don Stewart (Conservative) asked Ms. Jennifer O'Connell (Liberal). substantive question.The answer states a review was referred but does not commit to listing the group as requested.This is precisely why the Minister of Public Safety had already referred the listing of Samidoun to our national security advisers
  36. deflected
    Public SafetyMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Ms. Jennifer O'Connell (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer avoids the substance by accusing the opposition of playing politics without new information.
  37. deflected
    LabourMr. Matthew Green (NDP) asked Randy Boissonnault (Liberal). substantive question.The answer lists other labour actions but does not address sectoral bargaining for gig workers.whether it is banning replacement workers or increasing the union training investment fund, this is the most labour-friendly government in the history of our country.
  38. misdirected
    Emergency PreparednessMr. Richard Cannings (NDP) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer disputes the premise about cuts and training numbers rather than addressing the funding decision.that is absolutely not true. We have invested significantly in emergency preparedness.