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Monday, October 7, 2024 · sitting No. 350

House debates privilege over unproduced SDTC documents as 56% of sitting

Conservative MP Kyle Seeback opened the privilege debate by stating that the House ordered documents on the SDTC matter that the government has not produced. He said the Liberals could end the matter by handing over the documents.

Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux replied that the member's claims amounted to character assassination and noted the SDTC chair's prior appointments under Conservative governments. Bloc Québécois MP Yves Perron asked what the documents contain that the Liberals wish to hide before the election.

In Question Period Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre pressed the government to hand over evidence on the $400-million scandal to the RCMP. Liberal MP Karina Gould said the Speaker's ruling required the matter to go to the procedure and House affairs committee.

Decided that day

  • 20th report of the Standing Committee on Human Resources, Skills and Social Development passed

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Who held the floor · 2024-10-07

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 21%, opposition 79% of the words spokenOrders of the DayQuestion PeriodOrders of the DayConcurrence in Committee Reports▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 11:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:0018:00Last speech 20:00Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 9 h 0 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
25Privilege points crowd out the agendaThe sitting devoted the bulk of its time to privilege matters and recorded 240 points of order or privilege, while substantive business accounted for just 18 percent of words spoken. Only one committee report was adopted and no bills advanced.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Foreign Affairs

Conservative MP Raquel Dancho said one year ago Jews experienced the worst attacks since the Holocaust and that anti-Semitism has risen in Canada since. Liberal MP Julie Dabrusin said the killing and sexual violence marked the largest atrocity on the Jewish people since the Holocaust.

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International Trade

Bloc Québécois MP Yves Perron said two senators appointed by the Liberals are blocking Bill C-282 and asked if the government finds that acceptable. Liberal Minister Marie-Claude Bibeau said the Senate is independent and must do its job.

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Seniors

Bloc Québécois MP Alain Therrien said 79% of the population supports a 10% increase to seniors' pensions and asked why the government withholds the royal recommendation for Bill C-319. Liberal Minister Steven MacKinnon said the Bloc voted against earlier increases to the guaranteed income supplement.

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Housing

NDP MP Peter Julian said the Liberals and previous Conservatives sold over one million affordable units to developers. Liberal Minister Jean-Yves Duclos said the Conservative leader built only six affordable units when responsible for housing.

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Housing

NDP MP Blake Desjarlais said over 300,000 indigenous people live in unsuitable housing and the government broke its promise to build homes. Liberal Minister Jean-Yves Duclos said the government has built tens of thousands of homes for indigenous Canadians.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer disputes the premise of the ruling and poses a counter-question rather than addressing compliance with handing over documents.Your ruling was to refer this matter to committee for further study. Will the Conservatives comply with your order?
  2. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer disputes the premise and accuses the asker of obstruction instead of addressing the request to hand over evidence.In fact, it is only the Conservatives who are now obstructing their own obstruction.
  3. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer disputes the premise about the ruling and shifts to accusing Conservatives of upending rights rather than confirming compliance.What the Conservatives are putting forward is unprecedented because, as the RCMP mentioned, it would upend charter rights and it would blur the lines between judicial and legislative independence.
  4. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). substantive question.The answer expresses solidarity with Jewish people and victims but does not explicitly condemn the specific chants mentioned.We stand with Jewish people. We will not relent until the last hostage returns home.
  5. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). substantive question.The answer condemns hatred and supports Jewish people but does not name or condemn the specific anti-Semitic chants quoted.What we stand up against, absolutely, is the amount of hatred that we have seen in this country and countries around the world.
  6. misdirected
    SeniorsMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked Steven MacKinnon (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks the Bloc's voting record on unrelated issues instead of addressing the request for royal recommendation on the pension increase.I hope, knowing my hon. colleague, that he said the same thing and was very clear with the seniors, especially when it comes to his opposition to lowering the age of retirement to 65.
  7. deflected
    Government PrioritiesMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked Lawrence MacAulay (Liberal). substantive question.The answer restates support for supply management but does not address the lack of action on the Senate delay or royal recommendation for seniors.
  8. misdirected
    HousingMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the Conservative leader's past record and views instead of addressing why the housing crisis persists under Liberals.When he was minister responsible for housing across the country, the Conservative leader built six affordable housing units.
  9. deflected
    HousingMr. Blake Desjarlais (NDP) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). substantive question.Answer defends record and attacks Conservatives instead of addressing timeline for action.If we had built on the record of the Conservative leader , with six affordable apartments in his entire mandate, we would be a long way from what is needed for indigenous Canadians in 2024.
  10. deflected
    Foreign AffairsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). loaded question.Answer avoids condemning chants or answering yes/no and instead demands an apology.I really hope that my colleague in front will apologize.
  11. deflected
    Foreign AffairsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). loaded question.Answer discusses protests and anti-Semitism but sidesteps direct support for retaliation.Our resolve to fight anti-Semitism is strong.
  12. misdirected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). substantive question.Answer attacks the questioner for obstruction rather than addressing document handover.It is the first time in Parliament's history that it is taking its extraordinary powers and abusing them in such an egregious way.
  13. misdirected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). substantive question.Answer accuses opposition of authoritarianism instead of addressing evidence or NDP role.I guess the Leader of the Opposition and his minions are sharing their blatant favouritism toward authoritarian tactics in this House.
  14. partly answered
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). substantive question.Answer states actions taken but does not commit to handing over documents.Four independent reports have been submitted.
  15. partly answered
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). substantive question.Answer cites RCMP letter but avoids confirming full compliance with Speaker's order.Even the commissioner of the RCMP openly stated in a letter that he had access to all the documents.
  16. deflected
    International TradeMr. Yves Perron (Bloc) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer notes Senate independence without addressing whether Liberals find the blocking acceptable.
  17. misdirected
    International TradeMr. Yves Perron (Bloc) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). substantive question.Answer pivots to supply management history instead of addressing Senate actions on the bill.My colleague gave a great answer when she said not only that that we value supply management, but that it was a Liberal government and the Liberal Party that put it in place decades ago.
  18. answered
    International TradeMr. Yves Perron (Bloc) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer directly affirms support for the bill and states expectation for Senate action.The bill is in the Senate right now. We expect it to be dealt with diligently.
  19. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Frank Caputo (Conservative) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). loaded question.Answer avoids documents issue by lecturing on institutional independence instead of addressing the order.When the police take action, they do so without political direction or manipulation.
  20. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Frank Caputo (Conservative) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). loaded question.Answer discusses charter distinctions but sidesteps the request to hand over unredacted documents.there is a qualitative difference between providing documents for the purposes of Parliament and providing documents for the purposes of prosecution.
  21. misdirected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMrs. Kelly Block (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks Conservatives for blocking a motion rather than addressing the cover-up or documents.The Conservatives are blocking their own motion.
  22. misdirected
    Climate ChangeMs. Laurel Collins (NDP) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). substantive question.Answer attacks NDP and Conservatives instead of explaining the sustainable finance taxonomy decision.On this side of the House, we are not caving to pressure and the disinformation campaign by the Conservative Party of Canada.
  23. partly answered
    HealthMs. Leah Gazan (NDP) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.Answer affirms support for abortion access but does not address enforcement of the Canada Health Act against provinces.We believe this on this side of the House and we fight for it every day.
  24. deflected
    EthicsMr. Michael Cooper (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.Answer ignores the specific conflict allegation and pivots to general committee witness expectations.we agree that, as witnesses go to committee, they need to share information that is asked of them by the committee.
  25. deflected
    EthicsMr. Michael Cooper (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer restates a procedural expectation without addressing the accusations or request to resign.if a witness is called before committee, they are expected to provide the information asked of them.
  26. deflected
    EthicsMr. Dane Lloyd (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer repeats a general committee rule and avoids confirming or denying the minister's involvement.if a witness is called to committee and asked to provide information, they need to provide that information.
  27. deflected
    EthicsMr. Dane Lloyd (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The response reiterates the same procedural point without engaging the specific claims about the minister.as a witness is called to committee and is asked to provide information to that committee, we expect they provide that information.
  28. answered
    Public Service of CanadaMr. Jean-Denis Garon (Bloc) asked Anita Anand (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly states that the office is working with the commissioner on funding and affirms support for whistle-blowers.my office is working with the commissioner's office to address funding concerns.
  29. answered
    Public Service of CanadaMr. Jean-Denis Garon (Bloc) asked Anita Anand (Liberal). substantive question.The answer covers both funding collaboration and support for the legal framework in the bill.my office is working with the Public Sector Integrity Commissioner and her office to respond to these issues.
  30. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMrs. Shelby Kramp-Neuman (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to attacking the Conservatives' record and slogans instead of addressing the carbon tax and scurvy claim.All the Conservatives have are slogans, and we saw what that did: fake lakes, gazebos and rubber cheques.
  31. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMrs. Shelby Kramp-Neuman (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The response pivots to unrelated diseases and misinformation rather than addressing the carbon tax's effect on food costs.Tuberculosis and measles are back.
  32. misdirected
    The EconomyMr. Richard Lehoux (Conservative) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the Conservative leader's proposed cuts instead of responding to the question about calling an election.'s response is to punish them, to hurt them by cutting the benefits they need, including dental care for his constituents.
  33. deflected
    The EconomyMs. Lianne Rood (Conservative) asked Jenna Sudds (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to child benefits instead of addressing the call for a carbon tax election.This is how we are fighting for and supporting Canadian families.
  34. deflected
    The EconomyMs. Lianne Rood (Conservative) asked Jenna Sudds (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to a school food program without engaging the demand for a carbon tax election.It means making a billion-dollar commitment to families and children across this country to bring forward a school food program that will feed over 400,000 children each and every year.
  35. misdirected
    The EconomyMr. Bernard Généreux (Conservative) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks Conservative policy and the leader rather than responding to the question about supporting the government."ruthlessness" is indeed the Conservative policy for how to treat Quebec families, including in my colleague's riding.
  36. partly answered
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Gord Johns (NDP) asked Mr. Mike Kelloway (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges shared responsibilities and states intent to uphold federal duties but offers no specific action to end the ship-breaking.We are going to continue to uphold our end on the DFO side.
  37. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Kevin Vuong (Independent) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). loaded question.The answer promotes existing legislation on hatred without addressing the query on action against pro-Hamas supporters.That is why there is a bill on the legislature floor right now, Bill C-63 , that would target online radicalization that leads to anti-Semitism.